MrCunningham
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Honestly, how could it not be?
"Grandpa didn't fight in a war for this bullshit"... Nobody under the age of 85 would have been old enough to fight in World War II.
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#GAMERGATE: The Threadening [Read the OP] -- #StopGamerGate2014
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Honestly, how could it not be?
"Grandpa didn't fight in a war for this bullshit"... Nobody under the age of 85 would have been old enough to fight in World War II.
jim-jam bongs
Member
Well it says it right there, "grandpa did not fight in a war".
Soyongdori
Member
South Park creators are probably thinking of making an episode out of this as of right now.
blitzcloud
Banned
I don't know what to say...
I just... I don't.
most of the points are pretty valid. Contact authorities asap and don't let the harassers think they have distressed you, giving them more power. also, by not saying it, you probably have less people searching for your full details, and it is less likely that more people jump into the harrassing bandwagon
MrCunningham
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Messofanego
Banned
I don't know what to say...
I just... I don't.
Totalbiscuit wrote this, right?
duessano
Member
This. Anybody claiming otherwise, needs a break from the internet.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
That's a valid point. At the same time, I still get irked when a news organization belittles my past time.
I'm sure you've seen the threads around here when someone like Fox News just completely dismisses people who play video games as basement dwellers with no social skills whatsoever.
You should probably ask her about that. Ask her why she went and insulted the people at Giant Bomb when responding to a twitter dipshit? The tweet is now deleted, but she said, "literally everything I write is more interesting than everything most of the [Giant Bomb] staff does."
Honestly? I've found my way into this thread because I saw Patrick of Giant Bomb getting harassed. That dude has been one of the most vocal people for a while now. Hell he was on a panel with Quinn at PAX East talking about internet jerks before all this blew up.
Alexander was awful at Giant Bomb's show but it's not like it's hard to see why she'd dislike them. Their fans were awful to her in a far disproportionate manner and GB just kinda laughed it off / stayed silent for a while. They eventually realized that large swathes of their fans are shitheads though, and told them to simmer down (a recurring theme with GB). Her tweeting about them sucking is spiteful but pretty understandable.
So a Venn diagram was created based on stuff.
https://storify.com/inurashii/sources-from-a-stone
https://storify.com/inurashii/sources-from-a-stone
I don't know what to say...
I just... I don't.
Some decent advice there.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Anyone know the origin of this logo?
Maybe I'm out of line for harbouring such a quiet assumption, but why am I not surprised to see the colours green and purple?
What do green and purple represent?
and poor Dualshock
Nah
especially not from the source
chaobreaker
Member
I don't know what to say...
I just... I don't.
The most passive aggressive way of saying "Don't out the people who are threatening you or else you'll be assumed to be a liar or attentionwhore. We already have a bad rep as it is.".
I'm getting tired of these GGers inserting their OC girl into everything too.
You've really been toeing the Gamergate Line throughout this ordeal.
Seems to be a 'twibbon' which is some kind of badge for various causes anyone can make and overlay on your twitter pic.Anyone know the origin of this logo?
Well to be fair this is basicly what law enforcement would tell you, but I agree that gg should not have done this.
An ugly little meme called 'Piccolo Dick' or 'Daily Dose'.
From http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/piccolo-dick:
Daily Dose / Piccolo Dick refers to an animated GIF of the Dragon Ball character Piccolo anally raping Vegeta.
Images related to the gif are often not aimed at representing the GIF, but instead just contain the colors green and purple. The idea of this is to make the combination of the two colors evolve as a trigger in a persons subconscious that results in him being reminded of the gif each time he sees those colors.
Again, maybe I'm reaching and it's just a coincidence. Maybe the similarity to goatse is also just a coincidence.
Vivian James, the one designed by 4chan members? Yep.
You don't agree with that advice? I think it's pretty much common sense no matter who wrote it.
FF Seraphim
Member
WTF.... I do not think the purple and green is suppose to represent that at all man. That is a crazy leap in logic...
Massive Duck. C.M.
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I feel like we're witnessing the birth of a new hate group
chaobreaker
Member
Is it? They have a history of inserting the colour green and purple into things. GG was born in /v/. Daily dose (ie green and purple) came from /v/.
Are you disagreeing with my observation or with the stated historical usage of those colours among the image board community? Like I said, it might just be a coincidence, just like the unfortunate goatse resemblance in the logo. But the purple/green thing is, like, genuinely a thing. I'm not pulling that from nowhere. It has its own knowyourmeme page for a reason.
FF Seraphim
Member
Okay... so I might be totally wrong.
BrassDragon
Member
Yes, similar to what I said upthread. I only disagree with 4, I can't see how it makes an investigation more difficult and the notion that it encourages the suspect is not widely accepted in criminology circles (it's common practice in stalking cases but not anonymous threats as far as I know.) Disregarding 4, any decent law-enforcement professional will give you similiar advice.
But I suppose the source means you have to run in the opposite direction, common sense be damned.
The thing that grates me about the image is not the advice itself but the equivalence, the idea that both sides are suffering from this equally. I mean, come on.
are you sure they meant what they wrote?
I sometimes write the opposite of what i think, just to troll people, to pull their leg and see them go nuts.
usually my friends know that, but people who don't know me..
It's basically telling victims they shouldn't publicize their victimization. It's denying the importance of talking about it and obstruct letting others recognize the societal problems that lead to it. And understanding why GG wouldn't want their targets to publicize the people they threaten, it makes the advice even more insidious
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
BrassDragon
Member
I understand this perspective and I'm all for publishing threats... but seeing victims being extremely specific and revealing details practically in real time makes me despair about the chances of these dickheads ever standing trial. It really does damage any potential investigation (and yes, I know many of you think the police is not doing anything right now but you're also curtailing any possible future investigations.)
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
"Don't report death threats to the police and don't make it public" is the exact opposite of good advice.
It's basically saying "hey, uh, we're going to give out this 'advice', which is really just good for us".
you know these "tips" is exactly what psychologists and the police tell you in germany at universitys if you receive threads or calls at night telling you to die.
the first sentence IS to call the police
Have they updated their boycott list yet?
Well yea, I don't agree with that one but in general the advice is good, as in keep all evidence and report to police. I did say "some" good advice there, which implies I don't endorse the whole thing.
Edit: @bolded: yea it didn't even say that.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Their mascot, uhhh...Vivian? Wears green/purple. Unless this has all been a ruse to make it connect back to Piccolo Pick....well...
....
It's obvious whoever made the list of things to do when harassed, is probably against 8chan. 8chan hasn't really been smart so doing something like this as a sort of xanatos gambit is too far-reached even for them. Many people on /v/ are sick of GG and well, the hate coming out of it. Like all things started on 4chan, it's gotten out of hand and /v/ has disassociated with it. It's not so much that discussion of it is banned by moderators, but when it does spring up, for that moment where it exists on the board, people on /v/ start harassing the OP of the thread and start denouncing them.
Basically, it's the 4chan cycle. They start spamming something(Either a meme like troll face, or what have you), get sick of it, disown it, then start insulting others for taking their memes(Look at this new*** spamming leddit memes; this meme started on 4chan idiot; didn't stop leddit from ruining it)[For example, that's how a discussion may go.]
...went on a bit of a tangent, but yeah..that image may be legit.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
The last portion is probably the most disturbing because there definitely is a life or death type vibe when dealing with some of these people.
.... how do you get to the mental state where you can publish something like this and then, at the very bottom, go "we're fighting the good fight"?
I mean, best case scenario, they are preying on ignorance, because worst case is I don't even want to think about how twisted these assholes are.
I believe I have seen the tweet you are talking about it and I am nearly certain it did not say this.
And you're picking particular passages out of the articles you have a problem with rather than examine them in context. The "Basement Dweller" comment is entirely describing the people that video Game marketing most valued. Free time + Disposable income is a gold mine demographic. That was the point of that section, not to ascribe that stereotype to all Gamers. She's a lifelong Gamer. It makes no sense.
And it's pretty undeniable from any long-term examination of the industry (See the Jeff Gerstmann section someone posted a few pages back) that those are the exact people that were catered to for a long time. And they're probably the people who are most threatened by change and throwing the worst abuse. Gamergate itself is at least somewhat diverse, but I imagine if we could get a look at the people hurling around the worst of it they'd be pretty stereotypical.
But in any case, you're not actually critiquing the article or its message, you're critiquing word choices because you associate them with other messages (e.g. All Gamers are basement dwellers!) When this is exactly the opposite point of the article. And spreading that misinformation around is harmful, even if you're not pissed off about the imagined insult to go on a crusade about it, someone is. And every time its repeated is yet another chance for someone ignorant of everything else to see it and start throwing their weight behind this campaign, and once they're stuck it's much harder to pry them off.
LiegeWaffle
Member
Okay.
"Weaponized Seniors"? Someone on *chan is laughing on all gamergaters who will take that seriously.
I don't know what to say...
I just... I don't.
Let us create a PSA about harassment with purpose of totally different from being used to attack the actual victims of harassment.
Because PSAs with trollfaces in them makes this look so trustworthy. That unique touch of 4chan culture, just makes it feel so important.
Anyone know the origin of this logo?
Maybe I'm out of line for harbouring such a quiet assumption, but why am I not surprised to see the colours green and purple?
Vivian James has the same colors!
I feel like almost any seriously looking statement or piece of propaganda from #gamergate contains a little touch like this, so trolls can laugh at us when we take it seriously.
I hope we are at the stage, where we have witnessed not only its birth, but its peak as well.
Everyone making that stupid goddamn argument always completely ignores the fact that not all harassment abuse or "trolling" (I wish people would stop lumping facetious internet arguments and death threats together under this tag) is motivated by seeking a reaction.
This particular bout is particularly aimed at silencing people and reducing their presence in the public eye. And It's part of a wider culture of fear that people need to made aware of.
Once again. GG's entire thought process when it comes to anyone receiving any abuse is "How will this make us look." instead of "What could this imply about wider circumstances?" Or asking for even less "How would this make this person feel?"
Someone against them is abused? "Shit this makes us look bad, QUICK decry false flag attention seeking deny affiliation!"
Someone on their 'side' is abused? "Quick how can we blame this on people we don't like? How can we use this to perpetuate our twisted victim complexes?!"
Never... NEVER. "Shit that sucks, sorry to hear that, how can we help. We're here for you."
Fuck them. Self-absorbed children.
This particular bout is particularly aimed at silencing people and reducing their presence in the public eye. And It's part of a wider culture of fear that people need to made aware of.
Once again. GG's entire thought process when it comes to anyone receiving any abuse is "How will this make us look." instead of "What could this imply about wider circumstances?" Or asking for even less "How would this make this person feel?"
Someone against them is abused? "Shit this makes us look bad, QUICK decry false flag attention seeking deny affiliation!"
Someone on their 'side' is abused? "Quick how can we blame this on people we don't like? How can we use this to perpetuate our twisted victim complexes?!"
Never... NEVER. "Shit that sucks, sorry to hear that, how can we help. We're here for you."
Fuck them. Self-absorbed children.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Well, people have tweeted they are against it. They just never seem to go further than "gamergate does not condone this".
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Apologies in advance if this seems odd, but this is the kind of "logic" involved with threats.
Thanks to brother FyreWulff
Thanks to brother FyreWulff
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