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Best Science Fiction movie of the 90s?
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Red Scarlet said:
This is why you rule.
And I'd love to read the TR book as well.
Prine said:
Exactly. :lol
Look, the first 45 minutes of ID4 was fun stuff...I still enjoy watching the opening buildup, all the way to the cities getting leveled. But from July 3rd on it just goes to shit.
And Jurrasic Park gets worse with each viewing as well. Fuck ANYONE who dares to hold it up against the masterpiece known as Jaws...it isn't in the same universe.
Agreed on the other two points though...Tremors rocked, and Starship Troopers was boring as fuck.
Keyser Soze
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Red Scarlet
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kablooey said:God, I completely forgot about JP. I retract my earlier vote for T2; Jurassic Park takes the fucking cake, easily.
Oh, you bitch.
Ash Housewares
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goddamnit manabyte you like some shitty movies, Stargate was awful
and apollo 13 was neither sci fi nor good, it stunk too, why mention it?
Gattaca all the way
and apollo 13 was neither sci fi nor good, it stunk too, why mention it?
Gattaca all the way
Mermandala
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The City Of Lost Children has clones and a brain in a tank so it gets my vote.
and Ghost In The Shell gets a nod for being the 90s Akira.
and Ghost In The Shell gets a nod for being the 90s Akira.
Not 100% fiction as the science in it could be plausible, but certainly the technology is still fiction today and that film is
CONTACT
Most interesting Sci-fi you'll ever see because it's based on a lot of hard science, and logically tackles what would likely happen in the event we get a signal from an alien civilization w/ out Emmerich's overblown drama and jets flying everywhere.
I love many other Sci fi films from the 1990s, but CONTACT needs more love. Find it on DVD and watch it. It's a great film.
CONTACT
Most interesting Sci-fi you'll ever see because it's based on a lot of hard science, and logically tackles what would likely happen in the event we get a signal from an alien civilization w/ out Emmerich's overblown drama and jets flying everywhere.
I love many other Sci fi films from the 1990s, but CONTACT needs more love. Find it on DVD and watch it. It's a great film.
VALIS said:
You're a hypocrite for continuing to insist Apollo 13 is sci-fi, in a smart alec manner... despite having voiced out against that kind of behaviour, percieved or otherwise in the "Tree falling sound" thread. In that thread, you bitch out people for giving responses despite the intention of the question, which I think is relatively obscure anyway... relative to the obvious intention of this thread.
No instead of rescinding, backing down, you start an argument about justifying how Apollo 13 should be an acceptable choice within the context of the thread.
So, fuck you back tenfold asswipe.
And to stop the tangential madness, I'll list my own sci-fi favs...
T2
Matrix
Gattaca
Deep Impact
12 Monkeys
Total Recall
and Maybe Dark City
Each movie is pretty awesome in its own rights... but the sci-fi theme that I like best would probably come from the matrix... the whole idea of a world created from the perception of people is a pretty cool idea, and despite its huge logical flaws, has merit in the sort of sci-fi to science investigation that other sci-fi ideas have gone through.
Best SF is a tie between Jurassic Park/ The Matrix. 12 Monkeys's up there too.
Other than that, there are a lot of enjoyable SF movies, which have already been named. I'll mention Armageddon, which I enjoyed a heck of lot more than Deep Impact.
Oh, and I liked godzilla too. Plz forgive me.
Other than that, there are a lot of enjoyable SF movies, which have already been named. I'll mention Armageddon, which I enjoyed a heck of lot more than Deep Impact.
Oh, and I liked godzilla too. Plz forgive me.
kitchenmotors
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Crow said:
Most original movie of the 90's?! I think not. If you really think that, you haven't seen many movies.
The Matrix borrows from many other films. The City of Lost Children, Ghost in the Shell, Dark City, not to mention the many Wonderland references. The Matrix basically just molds all these ideas into one cohesive package.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
In no particular order:
- Jurassic Park
- Contact
- Dark City
- Ghost in the Shell
- Terminator 2
- Stargate
- The Matrix (scrue the hatas)
- Jurassic Park
- Contact
- Dark City
- Ghost in the Shell
- Terminator 2
- Stargate
- The Matrix (scrue the hatas)
kitchenmotors said:
Most original movie of the 90's?! I think not. If you really think that, you haven't seen many movies.
The Matrix borrows from many other films. The City of Lost Children, Ghost in the Shell, Dark City, not to mention the many Wonderland references. The Matrix basically just molds all these ideas into one cohesive package.
It's hard to find truly original movies. Movies that seem original usually are really just recycled themes that have been out of use for a while so it seems fresh. Pretty much all stories that can be told has already been told. What makes a good movie from a bad movie, an awesome experience from a bad experience is how these stories are told, the arc of the story and execution.
I thought Matrix had a lot going for it, and it probably succeed where others failed because it executed the whole package a lot better, albiet its individual parts probably aren't as great as they are. As much as I love the Matrix, and aside from my previous recommendation of Contact, I'd probably still put a movie like T2 ahead of it. But maybe it's the nostalgia.
Hitler Stole My Potato
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Tremors isn't Sci-Fi.
Or is it?
Or is it?
Pudding Tame
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Sure there are better movies out there, but every time I see this on TV, I'll sit down and watch it, and have a good time. I can't make the same guarantee for most other movies.
Galaxy quest, that shit had both ripley and zaphod. Massive respect yo!
In all seriousness I'd like to second Strange Days which is in my opinion the best cyberpunk film made to this date (imagine, people can actually make it through without falling into a bore induced sleep
).Another obvious choice is Gattaca which somehow managed to completely fly under the Radar back in 97 (I personally have seen or even heard about it for the first time only this year!).
And also the fifth element. Just a great movie allaround, with some of the best designwork (sets and aliens alike) to ever grace a work of fiction.
Kung Fu Jedi
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Wasn't Total Recall based on the Harlan Ellison short story "We Can Remember It For You, Wholesale."? Blade Runner was based on his "Do Android's Dream of Electric Sheep?" Ellison wrote some great stuff, and the TR short story isn't hard to find.
Best Sci Fi of the 90's has to go to Terminator 2, The Matrix, and The Iron Giant, as others have already said. Some of the films are over rated though, such as Independence Day and StarGate, both of which impressed my friends who weren't into sci-fi a lot more than the ones who have read a lot of classic sci-fi stuff. Same goes for 12 Monkeys. Really pretty cliche if you've read a lot of science fiction.
Apollo 13 is certainly not sci fi and shouldn't be on the list. Decent film, and I can understand the debate on non-fiction vs. fiction, but certainly not science fiction. I still believe it's non-fiction, even if it does take liberty with some details. Dialog is very fluid in every day life and it's pretty hard to remember exactly what is said at any given moment, but the events and characters are accurate for the most part. On the other hand, the characters and events (exluding the ship sinking) were mostly fictional in Titanic, which pushes it squarely into the historical fiction category.
Best Sci Fi of the 90's has to go to Terminator 2, The Matrix, and The Iron Giant, as others have already said. Some of the films are over rated though, such as Independence Day and StarGate, both of which impressed my friends who weren't into sci-fi a lot more than the ones who have read a lot of classic sci-fi stuff. Same goes for 12 Monkeys. Really pretty cliche if you've read a lot of science fiction.
Apollo 13 is certainly not sci fi and shouldn't be on the list. Decent film, and I can understand the debate on non-fiction vs. fiction, but certainly not science fiction. I still believe it's non-fiction, even if it does take liberty with some details. Dialog is very fluid in every day life and it's pretty hard to remember exactly what is said at any given moment, but the events and characters are accurate for the most part. On the other hand, the characters and events (exluding the ship sinking) were mostly fictional in Titanic, which pushes it squarely into the historical fiction category.
Zaptruder said:
I'm glad you pay close attention before you insult people. I made one post defending Apollo 13 as Sci-Fi, then I conceded the point. Said flat out I can understand why some people don't see at as Sci-Fi, however, some people (like the World Science Fiction Society, of all people!) do. The debate was almost entirely about the movie being fiction or non-fiction, and this was met with laughing icons and posts as deep as "you're an idiot." Can't be that hard to imagine why anyone be a little nasty at that point or try to defend themselves, especially when most people were wrong in insisting it was non-fiction yet calling me stupid, could it? It's like some people expected me to back off the point because the GAF Popular Opinion was against it. Please, that's fucking hilarious. So I don't need to see and raise your "tenfold", you look like a big enough dick already. The great defender of thread intergrity... who barely bothered to familiarize himself with what he's insulting people over. Nice job, man.
(and for those who are likely thinking, "who fucking cares? shut up already!" I don't blame you, but you'd want to defend yourself, too.)
Shinobi said:
I stopped arguing that it's sci-fi about 20 hours ago!!
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Jesus fucking fuck. Stop already.
Bud said:
See? And people want to give me shit for being a wise ass? (although I admit, my temper gets out of hand sometimes, and it did yesterday). That's about the tenth time I got some smart ass comment over something I'm right about. Seriously. Waddle down to your local college or university and ask one of the English professors if the movie Apollo 13 classifies as fiction. It doesn't mean that the details are made up, the presentation of a movie makes all of them classify as fiction. Fiction is often based on real life events. LA Confidential is fiction, yet it's based on real events. And when he or she says that it is, feel tremendous shame! :lol
VALIS said:
:lol Frankly it's more fun seeing you get pissed off. :lol
temp said:
:lol That was the post that stuck with me...the logic didn't even make any sense. As I said earlier, pratically anyone will call Hoop Dreams a movie, even though it's a documentry. So which is it?
At the end of the day though, it really doesn't matter...I just find this thread hilarious. :lol
Shinobi said:
:lol I know. People who know me will do that, work me up just to watch the fireworks. I'm tryin' to take things easier, Dr. Zebrowski, I'm really tryin', but it's hard some days. That's probably gonna be on my tombstone after my brain explodes inside my skull: "COCKSMOKING MOTHERBITCHES WOULDN'T LEAVE ME ALONE. RIP."
Warm Machine
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Stargate has some of the worst lighting I've ever seen in a modern movie. The indoor sequences look like an old Disney movie from the 60s. Especially the shot of Kurt Russell sitting on the bed at his home and the military telling him he has been reactivated. If you have the DVD take a look at it, it looks awful.
Gaming-Ryu
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This deserves another mention. At the top of my list for sci-fi films and my personal favourite.
Great story, great characters, great atmosphere, and great acting all around.
Eventhough it is more story-driven and less action-oriented than other sci-fi movies, everyone should at least give it a shot and check it out. Really great film.
Warm Machine
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Gaming-Ryu said:
This deserves another mention. At the top of my list for sci-fi films and my personal favourite.
Great story, great characters, great atmosphere, and great acting all around.
Eventhough it is more story-driven and less action-oriented than other sci-fi movies, everyone should at least give it a shot and check it out. Really great film.
It is a good movie but a few scenes just irritate me like when Hawke has to cross the road without his glasses on.
It does have the single most inspirational line in a 90s sci fi with "I didn't save anything for the trip back"
DopeyFish said:the picture of tommy lee jones you used is from double jeopardy.... a movie where he's a washed up parole officer and really has no say in anything.
my point? I don't really have one
Nah, that was US Marshall...Double Jeopardy's the one where he's a lawyer who works with that hottie Ashley Judd. That's where his line "the prosecution rests" comes from! Couldn't find a pic from that scene though, so I just found the first decent Tommy pic and posted it.
VALIS said:
:lol I can half imagine the corpse climbing out of the coffin, telling everyone to fuck off and leave him in peace. :lol
T2, JP, Gattaca, The 13th Floor, Strange Days, The Arrival, Stargate. Good to see some STrange Days love here, i love that film, visually stunning, totally cyberpunk/noir, just my thing. City of Lost CHildren is another great one from what i hear, its still on my "to watch" list.
Unfortunately 90's havent been all that good for sci-fis, 80s were great...Total Recal, Terminator, Aliens, Blade Runner, Back to the Future, ET, lots of great stuff.
Unfortunately 90's havent been all that good for sci-fis, 80s were great...Total Recal, Terminator, Aliens, Blade Runner, Back to the Future, ET, lots of great stuff.
Actually Total Recall came out in 1990.nitewulf said:
I know it's not a great argument or anything, but Star Wars always seemed more like fantasy than sci-fi to me. I mean, and it could be both at the same time, but it never seemed all that sci-fiy to me.GaimeGuy said:No one else thinks Episodes IV-VI of Star Wars are great Sci Fi movies?
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