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Sony FY2015 Q2: PS4 shipment 4 million, cumulative sell in at 29.3 million

panda-zebra

Banned
Crazy numbers! $399 power.

However i still thiink it won't pass 100M

I know you maybe don't want to read too much into it, but how about some $199 power a few years from now with a cost-cutting slim/super-slim ps4 and a Platinum range of the kinds of games we're about to see drop in the next 6 months? It should be possible given the hardware this time around.

Less likely/tangible, the whole PSVR stuff could be good for a few million that otherwise wouldn't materialise due to the unique appeal it could offer.

Writing off 100m right now seems too soon to call, there is potential.
 
i would sooner run with dqxi over ffxv for stuff like that.

i don't think either will provide a huge boost though. the ps4's nearing 2 million units now and i don't think it'll make it to 10m overall.

I don't think anyone expects PS4 to sell that much in Japan .
We are looking at a 5 million to 7 million (high end ) range for PS4 in japan by the end of the gen .
Also i would put more hope on FFXV and FF7R moving PS4 in japan than DQXI since that also on 3DS.
 

Conduit

Banned
Damn! Great numbers!

I think now it's definitely 2:1 shipped and sold trough compared to Xbone.

Last Holidays was over 4 million PS4 sold trough, right?
 
I know you maybe don't want to read too much into it, but how about some $199 power a few years from now with a cost-cutting slim/super-slim ps4 and a Platinum range of the kinds of games we're about to see drop in the next 6 months? It should be possible given the hardware this time around.

Less likely/tangible, the whole PSVR stuff could be good for a few million that otherwise wouldn't materialise due to the unique appeal it could offer.

Writing off 100m right now seems too soon to call, there is potential.

There is always potential, bu i just can't see a $199 PS4 without a PS5 already in the Street.
 

BokehKing

Banned
For the players
God DAMN 👑

On the one hand it's a shame that they had to step away from phones and tv

On the other hand I hope VR does not backfire as a gamble on them
 

allan-bh

Member
I know you maybe don't want to read too much into it, but how about some $199 power a few years from now with a cost-cutting slim/super-slim ps4 and a Platinum range of the kinds of games we're about to see drop in the next 6 months? It should be possible given the hardware this time around.

Less likely/tangible, the whole PSVR stuff could be good for a few million that otherwise wouldn't materialise due to the unique appeal it could offer.

Writing off 100m right now seems too soon to call, there is potential.

The problem with the 100m mark is to know how will be the sales pattern of this generation.

Sure we are all expecting a huge 2016 and a great 2017 for PS4, but then what? I doubt we are looking at the same long cycle of last gen and I don't think this is a PS2 case when the system can sell very well after the successor's launch.


The weapon to fight NX next year.

I don't think Sony cares about fight NX.
 

Alebrije

Member
Good to see Sony as a whole company is doing well, and also the kept the TV business.

Also

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EGM1966

Member
Oh, I heard early review are bad?
Maybe I'm wrong then.
What would reviews have to do with a Bond film? The franchise is essentially Teflon at this stage and due to number of entries a challenge to review anyway.

Bond films rarely make a loss (in fact I suspect they've never made a loss - lowest point was probably final Dalton film which was expensive but only performed solidly but pretty sure it made a profit) and coming of Skyfall with same team? Spectre is guaranteed to make bank.

Your seem to be reaching for potential concern with little knowledge of the Bond franchise.
 

Alo0oy

Banned
Microsoft is doing the same thing that Sony made with PS3, investing more in first-party line up.

They have in the bag Quantum Break, Recore, Scalebound, Crackdown, Fable Legends, Sea of Thieves, Gears 4... I think they're trying better than with 360.

I think people are referring to first party studios, MS Studios aren't as robust as Sony's and Nintendo's.
 

Ryng_tolu

Banned
Ok, after a little consideration.
Using NPD and Media Create, The PS4 has Sold less than 1 million in US + JP.
...Well, i know The stronger PS4 market is The Europe and is selling great in other small market, but i HARDLY doubt PS4 Sold another over 3 million in The rest if world... This mean Sony has really shipped like crazy with The Price drop incoming.
Maybe i should change my 7.8m prediction for this quarter... Unless they will massive overship again.
Which seem likely all considering... I don't know.
 
right. it's basically all you can do at that point, because to secure a third-party game, you're not only paying a company's chance to make big bucks on one or more platforms extra, but potentially limiting the reach of a franchise and damaging the potential for future entries. this is different when a game wouldn't get made without some intervention, like street fighter v or bayonetta 2. but microsoft really needs to build what their 'brand' is going to be. they had a sort of a thing going last gen with halo/gears/fable/forza, but stopped building on it and let studios slip away from them.

I remember when there was a rumour floating about early this gen that MS were trying to shop for a 3rd party exclusive and their sights landed on Mass Effect before EA said nah.

Definitely looked at the install base pf PS4 and didn't want to lose a nice chunk of the player base like with Titanfall I bet (though that game was still successful for them)

For the players
God DAMN 👑

On the one hand it's a shame that they had to step away from phones and tv

On the other hand I hope VR does not backfire as a gamble on them

I think Sony have calm expectations for PSVR. It'll be a bit expensive and the hardware is just ver 1.0 so they're playing the long game. Having this massive install base certainly helps though.
 

allan-bh

Member
What would reviews have to do with a Bond film? The franchise is essentially Teflon at this stage and due to number of entries a challenge to review anyway.

Bond films rarely make a loss (in fact I suspect they've never made a loss - lowest point was probably final Dalton film which was expensive but only performed solidly but pretty sure it made a profit) and coming of Skyfall with same team? Spectre is guaranteed to make bank.

Your seem to be reaching for potential concern with little knowledge of the Bond franchise.

License to Kill has the worst gross of the franchise in US box office (Adjusted for ticket price inflation).

Not surprises me the 6 years gap until GoldenEye.
 
And people said it was crazy to think ps4 would sell more than 35 million this year. With the price cut and holiday deals, it's going to end up closer to 40 million than 35.
 
The problem with the 100m mark is to know how will be the sales pattern of this generation.

Sure we are all expecting a huge 2016 and a great 2017 for PS4, but then what? I doubt we are looking at the same long cycle of last gen and I don't think this is a PS2 case when the system can sell very well after the successor's launch.




I don't think Sony cares about fight NX.

I see atleast being a 6 year console cycle, and i dont see why the ps4 wouldnt sell after its successor launches,. How much did ps3/360 sell after nextgen consoles launched? probably a lot and there still not 99$ yet cause how expensive they for both company's when they launched. With the ps4 taking marketshare back, i can see it selling pretty good even after its succesor comes out.
 
So the 29.3 is sell in, not shipped? God damn, that's huge. What's the shipped then?
They are totally going to be able to announce "over 40 million" at E3.
 

TBiddy

Member
I think Sony have calm expectations for PSVR. It'll be a bit expensive and the hardware is just ver 1.0 so they're playing the long game. Having this massive install base certainly helps though.

Priced around the same as a 'game console', as they put it, I highly doubt it'll move many consoles. It could sell well to the enthusiasts, but most of them have already bought a console.

So the 29.3 is sell in, not shipped? God damn, that's huge. What's the shipped then?
They are totally going to be able to announce "over 40 million" at E3.

Shipped, from what I can gather.
 

Alo0oy

Banned
Ok, after a little consideration.
Using NPD and Media Create, The PS4 has Sold less than 1 million in US + JP.
...Well, i know The stronger PS4 market is The Europe and is selling great in other small market, but i HARDLY doubt PS4 Sold another over 3 million in The rest if world... This mean Sony has really shipped like crazy with The Price drop incoming.
Maybe i should change my 7.8m prediction for this quarter... Unless they will massive overship again.
Which seem likely all considering... I don't know.

This isn't new, PS4 has been selling like shit in the US and Japan in the "pre-season" since launch, compare shipment numbers to NPD every non-holiday quarter and you get the same results.

You're severely underestimating Europe and RotW.
 
Amusing thing I noticed: They shipped 700k more PS4's in Q2 this year than last despite selling ~200k less in the US in September alone.

Dat 1% in China effect...

Fun fact from ZhugeEX:

The last time Sony shipped more than 4 million untis (sic!) of a certain console in Q2 was 10 years ago in 2005 for the PS2

So, as far as we know, the global LTD PS4 to XBOX One ratio is now above 2:1?
 

allan-bh

Member
I see atleast being a 6 year console cycle, and i dont see why the ps4 wouldnt sell after its successor launches,. How much did ps3/360 after nextgen console launched? probably a lot and there still not 99$ yet cause how expensive they for both company's when they launched. With the ps4 taking marketshare make back, i can see it selling a lot after its succesor comes out.

Not really. Sales for 360 and PS3 after XBO and PS4 are modest, with is not a surprise because of the very long cycle. And probably both will be discontinued without hit the $99 mark.
 
PSVR will save Japan and it'll push PS4 into the next level!

If the launch price is right and a complete set reaches 299$ in several years it could challenge PS2 sales.
 

Xando

Member
Looking at US and Japan numbers MS should take notes and start to give some fucks about Europe and the Middle east.
 

AniHawk

Member
I see atleast being a 6 year console cycle, and i dont see why the ps4 wouldnt sell after its successor launches,. How much did ps3/360 sell after nextgen consoles launched? probably a lot and there still not 99$ yet cause how expensive they for both company's when they launched. With the ps4 taking marketshare back, i can see it selling pretty good even after its succesor comes out.

i think the market is going to change around the dedicate space to the point where a successor won't be dedicated hardware the way we're used to. of course i'm just basing this off the rise of digital sales everywhere and the decline in dedicated hardware so i might be wrong.
 

Apt101

Member
Has Sony released recent info regarding PSN-driven revenue? I think that's probably the real growth driver. I can't imagine they're earning much from each individual console sell.
 
The PS4 is so going to end up selling more than the PS1. It'll eventually become the second best-selling console of all time, I'm sure of it.
 
PS + subs were at 10.9M with 18.5M consoles sold at the start of the year. Predicting it'll reach 20M within 3 months.

Predixhunz:

37 million PS4 sold by Dec 31 2015

39-40 million by March 31 2016
 
The PS4 is so going to end up selling more than the PS1. It'll eventually become the second best-selling console of all time, I'm sure of it.

It is 100% possible.

Regardless the PS4 will bring in more profit than PS1 and possibly even PS2 due to PS+ subscriptions and the strength of a digital market.

PS4 is a gigantic smashing success for Sony.
 

Man

Member
Next year Sony will have a $299 PS4 Slim model and PlayStation VR.

Uncharted 4, Horizon, Gran Turismo, No Man's Sky...

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Priced around the same as a 'game console', as they put it, I highly doubt it'll move many consoles. It could sell well to the enthusiasts, but most of them have already bought a console.

Agreed. I expect PSVR to be an enthusiast machine at first with high initial sales that will tail off fairly quickly. I just hope the casuals are impressed by it, to want to invest further down the line.

Has Sony released recent info regarding PSN-driven revenue? I think that's probably the real growth driver. I can't imagine they're earning much from each individual console sell.


PSN network sales are up 56.8% according to VG24/7
Trust them, they are veterans :p

Edit: beaten
 
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