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[Suzushiiro]

Not remotely surprising- CoD supplanted Halo as the king of the competitive multiplayer FPS a long time ago, and Destiny is also now sort of in competition with it. The series is well past its peak and something drastic is going to have to happen for it to bounce back.

 

[T.O.P]

Che cosa è un 'Halo'?

Spoiler

I don't know a single word of italian

That's actually correct

Kinda weird tho, Halo always had a decent exposure here, i remember seeing the Halo 3 ad like 10 times a day

 

[commish]

Can't believe Halo has fallen so far. Well, it did have a good run.

 

[Trup1aya]

Hmm, digital alone won't make it one of the best selling in the Halo series. But we can't ignore the fact that for Halo 1-4, virtually every copy was sold physically, and that simply isn't the case no more...

Factor in digital sales and the number probably goes from shockingly low to just about Par...

The real question is whether or not it will have legs...

 

[cartoon_soldier]

Where are you people getting the Titanfall data?

Because, I am pretty sure that 125k number was from a site that had "insider" info and not official figures from any tracking site.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=786507

 

[Flavius]

Anecdote is the singular of data -- first proper Halo sequel that I haven't felt compelled to run out and purchase on day 1. I've definitely transitioned to "casual gamer" status over the past decade or so, but while I knew this one was coming...and what I saw of it looked very good...nothing about it particularly interested me. It just looked like more prettier of something we already had.

I think marketing has quite a lot to do with that, frankly. It's a shame.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

It will be the same with The Coalition and Gears (and Turn 10). Microsoft wants to gain the loyalty of gamers by saying "hey look, here we have Halo and Gears, and we'll always have that". On the other hand, Sony is saying "hey look, we have Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch and Quantic Dream, those guys will make amazing games for PlayStation, and even if we don't yet what those games will be, they're going to be amazing, trust us, because those dev's are great".

I get what your saying. I got the feeling during the last years of the 360 under Mattrick, Kinect aside, the attitude was "oh give em another Halo, give em another Forza and another Gears (Judgement)". They can be so predictable at times, it was really refreshing to see them announce stuff like ReCore, Qauntum Break and Scalebound. Not to mention Sunset Overdrive which was a brilliant game imho. They need more of this and to really support them marketing and budget wise.

 

[bombshell]

Nope, for five reasons:

1. Uncharted was never a sales juggernaut like the Halo series.
2. What was shown so far is absolutely insane.
3. It will be released in Q1 next year, meaning it will not compete against sales monsters like CoD or FIFA.
4. It's a thief's end. The final chapter. Everybody familiar with Nate wants to see the conclusion of his story.
5. It's on PS4, meaning in Q1 2016 the install base will be above 35 million (compared to the 15 million Halo had as base).

10 million (Uncharted 3) on one platform isn't a sales juggernaut?

 

[Shahed]

Now that I think about it I can't recall any Halo 5 ads on the TV in the UK. There were loads of them earlier in the year around just after E3 with the whole Chief/Locke thing and Hunt the Truth. But now I haven't seen any. the Ads I see on TV are either Fallout and Black Ops III

 

[Primethius]

Where are you people getting the Titanfall data?

Because, I am pretty sure that 125k number was from a site that had "insider" info and not official figures from any tracking site.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=786507

Nah, it was from the PAL thread. The PR mentioned that Titanfall was double the current leader, FIFA. Which would have put it at 125k.

Link: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=785958

Interesting to note. No mention of console boost in Halo's PR but a clear mention in the Titanfall PR.

 

[Andodalf]

Anybody know how the install base compares to halo 2 launch? I'd kinda think it'd be similar.

 

[Lothars]

Hmm, digital alone won't make it one of the best selling in the Halo series. But we can't ignore the fact that for Halo 1-4, virtually every copy was sold physically, and that simply isn't the case no more...

Factor in digital sales and the number probably goes from shockingly low to just about Par...

The real question is whether or not it will have legs...

If you read the thread, it seems like digital won't make it go anywhere close to even. It will be better than the sales shown here but chances are it's between 20 and 30% of sales for digital.

 

[lighthouse777]

Your mad if you think digital isn't drastically outselling physical.

I can name one person out of a friendship group of 10 people who bought Halo 5 physically rather than digital. That's 10/90% split in physical/digital in my friendship group. I'd say it's a similar story in a lot of other peoples.

Also:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...ssassins-creed-syndicate-launch-by-50-percent



Cover 20%? Your mad.

I agree with you no one I know bought retail. and from what I read since digital in unknown some sites will no longer announce sales as they really do not know..
this is one there are others
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/194487/Why_Gamasutra_is_skipping_monthly_NPD_reports.php

also http://www.fool.com/investing/gener...corp-reveals-stunning-digital-video-game.aspx
When a sale isn't really a sale
GameStop published market research from DFC Intelligence showing that 60% of all digital sales last year were free giveaways attached to a hardware bundle. In other words, almost two-thirds of the AAA titles that were digitally "sold" in 2014 were actually delivered as part of a bigger purchase of an Xbox One or PlayStation 4 console.

 

[Stilton Disco]

Now that I think about it I can't recall any Halo 5 ads on the TV in the UK. There were loads of them earlier in the year around just after E3 with the whole Chief/Locke thing and Hunt the Truth. But now I haven't seen any. the Ads I see on TV are either Fallout and Black Ops III

Really? I've seen loads this last fortnight, and I barely watch live TV.

 

[Hasney]

Where are you people getting the Titanfall data?

Because, I am pretty sure that 125k number was from a site that had "insider" info and not official figures from any tracking site.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=786507

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=785958

So from chart tracks PR and we knew the FIFA numbers. Looking into it, it does include the PC numbers, but they only account for 7.3k, so a little less than had been stated.

It wasn't from a site, it was from our own PAL Charts guys, some of which have access to the chart numbers.

 

[DALBEN]

Thats odd, at least half of my friendlist is playing h5.

 

[BokehKing]

Hmm, digital alone won't make it one of the best selling in the Halo series. But we can't ignore the fact that for Halo 1-4, virtually every copy was sold physically, and that simply isn't the case no more...

Factor in digital sales and the number probably goes from shockingly low to just about Par...

The real question is whether or not it will have legs...

I think releasing it in the holidays ruins any chance of that, releasing it say in....March maybe April would have helped, would have been the only new FPS out at the time

 

[SenjutsuSage]

So assuming these numbers are even true, we are using the UK alone to sum up Halo 5's overall sales performance? Don't stop being predictable guys.

 

[Andodalf]

It'd be interesting to see what numbers this hits ww, because of digital, and how I'm sure they'll put this in a lot of bundles for the next year. Especially since it's rated T. I wonder if they'll ever give full numbers tho.

 

[BuggeryBugz]

Does anyone know the worldwide sales of halo 4 in the first week?

 

[soxinthebox]

So assuming these numbers are even true, we are using the UK alone to sum up Halo 5's overall sales performance? Don't stop being predictable guys.

They're comparing like with like numbers.

 

[Impeccable]

At least 94% of my friends list is playing it(984ppl) and my circle of friends (all 7 of us) all bought digitally too so there is a real shift.

These sales charts are not even telling half the story any more, it's a new dawn and all you non-digital dinosaurs just don't get it.

 

[Kalliban]

Hmm, digital alone won't make it one of the best selling in the Halo series. But we can't ignore the fact that for Halo 1-4, virtually every copy was sold physically, and that simply isn't the case no more...

Factor in digital sales and the number probably goes from shockingly low to just about Par...

The real question is whether or not it will have legs...

^ This! Almost no one I knew bought their games digitally for Xbox or Xbox 360, but almost everyone I know buys the majority of their games digitally for the Xbox one. I'm actually surprised that they still managed such a high number for physical copies!

 

[cartoon_soldier]

Nah, it was from the PAL thread. The PR mentioned that Titanfall was double the current leader, FIFA. Which would have put it at 125k.

Link: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=785958

Interesting to note. No mention of console boost in Halo's PR but a clear mention in the Titanfall PR.

Pretty sure that PR was not just for XB1 TF sales.

 

[Lothars]

So assuming these numbers are even true, we are using the UK alone to sum up Halo 5's overall sales performance? Don't stop being predictable guys.

No but it shows a trend maybe the US will be significantly different. what will really determine it is if MS comes out this week and announces sales or at least something about the launch like they ususally do.

 

[Bgamer90]

Anybody know how the install base compares to halo 2 launch? I'd kinda think it'd be similar.

Halo 2 released very late during its respective gen so I wouldn't be surprised if total UK Xbox sales back then were similar to current total UK Xbox One sales.

 

[Dash_Riprock]

There's denial and then there's this thread...

 

[Pearson]

That's suprising if true, thought every Xbox owner would pick this up

 

[Raziel]

There are literally dozens of people on my friends list playing it.

 

[Hasney]

Pretty sure that PR was not just for XB1 TF sales.

Right. Discount 7.3k for PC.

XBO: 94%
PC:6%

http://www.computerandvideogames.com...e-sales-by-96/

 

[Jimmyfenix]

So assuming these numbers are even true, we are using the UK alone to sum up Halo 5's overall sales performance? Don't stop being predictable guys.

Well the UK is Microsofts 2nd biggest market after the US so that alone kind of says a lot.

 

[TechnicPuppet]

Another terribly titled XB1 thread. Everyone on my friends list is playing it and no one I know in real life buys hard copies of games anymore.

 

[Three]

There are literally dozens of people on my friends list playing it.

Are you fishing for this GIF?

 

[FunkyPajamas]

Yes. Its either sibling imminent or divorce imminent because it wasn't with mum.

divorce imminent sounds like the name of a Halo AI. Perhaps final boss for Halo 6? Topical.

Another terribly titled XB1 thread.

I do agree that the title of the thread is somewhat... final? Wouldn't something like "Halo 5's first month lowest in franchise history" be better?

I haven't been paying attention, has Microsoft come out with any statement re: numbers? I know they're usually quick to. Or were, in the past.

 

[Hoo-doo]

So assuming these numbers are even true, we are using the UK alone to sum up Halo 5's overall sales performance? Don't stop being predictable guys.

What? There's nothing to definitively conclude in terms of world-wide sales, but it does indicate a tepid Halo 5 launch in the UK compared to previous iterations.
That's what this thread is about. It's not far-fetched to assume a similar trend in other territories, but that's just informed speculation.

Do you have reasons to think it'll be drastically different in other regions, say the US?

 

[jimbobsmells]

I agree with comments that say sales charts should be tracking digital too now, but comments like 'my friends list are all playing it' are anecdotal and mean nothing.

 

[Hasney]

Another terribly titled XB1 thread. Everyone on my friends list is playing it and no one I know in real life buys hard copies of games anymore.

Everyone on my friends list is playing WWE 2k16. The charts must be wrong!

 

[Shahed]

Really? I've seen loads this last fortnight, and I barely watch live TV.

Well I don't really watch it either. Only Football/F1 and a bit of E4 in passing while I eat. So many BLOPS III and Fallout ads and even a few AC: Syndicate a little while ago, but I can't think of a single Halo one I've seen. It's strange because there were so many of them a few months back.

Thats odd, at least half of my friendlist is playing h5.

Anecdotal evidence is pretty misleading. A lot of my friend list played Dragon Quest Heroes over the last few weeks and that bombed badly over here

 

[Interfectum]

Another terribly titled XB1 thread. Everyone on my friends list is playing it and no one I know in real life buys hard copies of games anymore.

So your anecdotal evidence makes the factual title untrue?

 

[watership]

No surprise there tbh. It's not that good of a game and I didn't see much ads or hype for it.

Only it's not. It's the best Halo game since 3 and maybe the best Multiplayer since 2.

 

[SparkTR]

Another terribly titled XB1 thread. Everyone on my friends list is playing it and no one I know in real life buys hard copies of games anymore.

Anecdotal evidence means very little.

 

[MilkyJoe]

That's suprising if true, thought every Xbox owner would pick this up

Nah, Halo is not my bag, I kind of liked the first one, I never finished it, the stupid little gnome-like enemies with their childish little squeals put me off the series for life.

Another terribly titled XB1 thread. Everyone on my friends list is playing it and no one I know in real life buys hard copies of games anymore.

I'm not playing it and I only buy physical copies. I must be the stuff of legends...

 

[TechnicPuppet]

Everyone on my friends list is playing WWE 2k16. The charts must be wrong!

You're hilarious.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Well I don't really watch it either. Only Football/F1 and a bit of E4 in passing while I eat. So many BLOPS III and Fallout ads but I can't think of a single Halo one I've seen. It's strange because there were so many of them a few months back.

There has been a few between Live Premier League Football games, Fallout 4 too

 

[Palette Swap]

So assuming these numbers are even true, we are using the UK alone to sum up Halo 5's overall sales performance? Don't stop being predictable guys.

We aren't.

The discussion and facts are pretty clear: this is about the game's performance at retail in the UK, which isn't great. That doesn't say anything about the US market and that doesn't say anything about the digital market.

I mean, it's framed pretty clearly.

 

[Katana_Strikes]

So assuming these numbers are even true, we are using the UK alone to sum up Halo 5's overall sales performance? Don't stop being predictable guys.

They are true (digital won't be enough to make the story any different) and I'd say the UK is a good indication to get a feel of the performance in the US too (ie it'll be way down on past launches). Europe will be much, much worse for the franchise this gen.

 

[TechnicPuppet]

Anecdotal evidence means very little.

So it's anecdotal that none of the other Halos were available digititally at launch?

 

[cgcg]

Another terribly titled XB1 thread. Everyone on my friends list is playing it and no one I know in real life buys hard copies of games anymore.

*hi-five*

 

[Markoman]

Another terribly titled XB1 thread. Everyone on my friends list is playing it and no one I know in real life buys hard copies of games anymore.

Yes, and every person I talk to in real life claims that he or she does not watch TV anymore, but yet those TV stations are still running when I turn on my TV. Something is fishy...

 

[SparkTR]

So it's anecdotal that none of the other Halos were available digititally at launch?

It's not anecdotal that console digital sales top out at 20% on the higher end as demonstrated by many major publisher quarter reports and statements, which would still make the title of the thread correct.