• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Eurogamer: NX = portable w/ carts, detachable controllers, Tegra, TV Out, no BC, Sept

Status
Not open for further replies.

wrowa

Member
Either way, in a world that is increasingly digital, these just seem cumbersome and unnecessary.

Without physical media, Nintendo would have a hard time convincing retail partners to stock and push the system, since game sales is where retailers are making their money. Without retail support, Nintendo would be DOA.
 

Taker666

Member
The only way i'll be happy with having to pay the extra for the handheld component of this...is if the screen is decent and 1080p(+) and you'll be able to slide it into a VR headset.
 

Aceofspades

Banned
Someone should flag this post and return to it in 4-5 years to see how right or wrong it is.

I accept the challenge, and I will be glad to be proven wrong...I have always wanted a system from Nintindo that can have it all (Mario, Zelda and Majority of 3rd party games which is not gimped.
 
Its not worth it for them to chase Xbox and Playstation in that race tho, Scorpio comes out next next year and Sony has the Neo, it makes no sense for Nintendo to throw billions of dollars at that market .

Wii U was the last Nintendo home console and thank god for that.

Guess I'm probably out then, I have zero interest in handhelds and potential software droughts if third party don't join in.
 

Vinc

Member
if you read the thread you can learn that the tegra is more powerful than wii u, like 3 times

We're in a 30-page thread right now. OP will likely be updated with all the important info later, but I don't think it's fair to expect people to read every post of a 30-page thread.
 
Well, one of the Vita's issues is that the big-name brands the Vita did have were somewhat 'afterthoughty' versions. In principle that shouldn't be an issue here, with one version hitting both marketplaces.

Were they? Golden Abyss, Killzone Mercenary and Assassin's Creed Liberation were all pretty decent games. Call of Duty was garbage, but I can't really think of anything else that was a throwaway.
 

flkraven

Member
if you read the thread you can learn that the tegra is more powerful than wii u, like 3 times

Current consoles (PS4, XB1) are more powerful than that and they are being replaced within the next 4-12 months because people are complaining that they can't keep up. This is very underwhelming.
 

tuxfool

Banned
X1 is capable of 1TFLOP. With low level access rather than how its used in Sheild it could be a lot more pokey than it seems on paper.

Not to mention that there's no confirmation its going to use X1. There's a rumour floating that the devkit is actively cooled, implying they are expecting something slightly more beefy under the hood in the final revision. X2 is a real possibility...

1 TF at FP16.
 

Neifirst

Member
I LOVE the return of cartridges for a home system. Lack of BC is fine so long as there is a robust virtual console ecosystem at the ready. I'm very curious about the controllers - hopefully they're along the lines of Wii U pro controller.
 
A portable Tegra based system from Nintendo? Called it and called. If it has a base station to stream to a TV I'll be three for three! Should have seen the cartridge thing coming through. I'm going digital so let's see how big an SDcard they let you have.
So we call it the DiiS now?
 

Rootbeer

Banned
The fact that we can play ZELDA BOTW on the go... HOLY SCHEIBE!!!!!

Yup. This is going to allow me to complete way more games on nintendo platforms (since I play a lot while commuting and yes, even at work :p Love my job [sometimes])

Nintendo doesn't want to compete against sony and MS. They've already seen how that's unfolded for several generations now. Even if they released the most powerful box, they have to jump into the "red ocean" of trying to rangle in third parties to create exclusive games or content for their box the same way MS and Sony are going back and forth about that now. I don't see Nintendo being able to succeed in a battle like that. Instead, they are going with their strength -- portable gaming -- and giving us a more versatile way to experience those titles. It makes way, way more sense to me for them to take an approach like this.

I'll be first in line for a NX if these rumors are true.
If nothing else, people will finally get that console Pokemon they've always wanted.
This is a tremendous change for mainline pokemon games. I really hope Sun/Moon get ported to the NX because I'm there!
 

Davey Cakes

Member
Awe man, on one hand they're focusing on what they're good at, which is handhelds. On the other they're not even trying to fix what they're bad at, which is 3rd party support.

Will be watching to see how they reveal it.
The third parties that support Nintendo's handhelds will be represented quite well here.

If devs are essentially making handheld games that you happen to able to play on the TV, then it kind of kills two birds with one stone.

The compromise is that big AAA support from the Neo HD Twins might not be there due to straight up console development limitations. But I don't see what's wrong with getting the type of support 3DS gets plus probably a good bit more considering indies. Nintendo will be the only presence in handhelds and they'll have some of their fingers in the console pie as well. It works for them as "the alternative."
 

Asd202

Member
It honestly does not make sense for the North American market. No one will bother carrying a large portable device with them when they have their phone. And it will undoubtedly be severely underpowered as a home console, which means they lose what few customers they still had in that market as well.

Sounds like a good fit for the Japanese market.
 

FZZ

Banned
So what is the most likely cause for the delay from coming this holiday to launching early next year?

Tegra issues or does anyone think they found better battery tech to use?
 

muteki

Member
I could see myself being interested from just a "powerful handheld" angle, but I struggle to see how the market at large will react to this.
 
It honestly does not make sense for the North American market. No one will bother carrying a large portable device with them when they have their phone. And it will undoubtedly be severely underpowered as a home console, which means they lose what few customers they still had in that market as well.

While I get what you're saying, we don't know how big it is. It could be the size of the Wii U gamepad or it could be the size of a Vita/3DS.

With their proposed marketing focusing on mobility, I'm leaning towards the latter.
 

KAL2006

Banned
Okay here is my prediction based on this rumour


Name
Nintendo Go

Media
Cartridges

Power
×1.5x better than Wii U in docked mode

System Features

Handheld Mode
System is basically a small 7" tablet with a 540p capacitive touchscreen. Can be used as a iPad. Can add attachments on each side of the unit for traditional controls. System also has camera and gyro for AR features

Console Mode
There is a docking station that has a HDMI passthrough and charges. Once the system is on this docking station system overclocks for higher resolution graphics it allows this to happen as system does not have to worry about battery life in this mode. The 2 control attachments can be attached together to form a regular controller. The docking station also has wireless video streaming for instances you want to use the 2 screen features for some games like the Wii U.

Price
$250 (NVIDIA Shield is currently $200)
 

BadWolf

Member
Disagree with everyone saying it will not be "backwards" compatible with the Wii U.

It will in a sense. You'll get those games digitally from the eshop and will able to play them on NX(crazy if they don't do this). Also, someone mentioned that this system could be backwards compatible with the 3DS. I agree with this. I think they'll announce the system as backwards compatible with the 3DS(you may not get the 3D but you'll still be able to play the games). 3DS could be cartridge or digital download. Thoughts?

To be compatible with DS and 3DS games the NX would need to be dual screen (and have a touch screen).
 
Yeah, if it´s really a hybrid, then I´m out. Shitty console, shitty handheld. And all in one device! The notion that it´s stronger than a WiiU is literally nothing to me. That console is on the level of a 360 (and that came out in 2005. 11! years ago.)

Cartridges, well yeah, with handheld it seems obvious. Would have been neat if we got a console and a handheld not a hybrid.

Will watch the unveiling, but i´m not excited right now. Was hyped on a new console, but with it being a hybrid (if it´s true, eurogamer is pretty good, still, could be wrong), my hype is just gone.

Egh
 

Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
Based on that Eurogamer video, the X1 gpu has shown:

- Doom goes from 720p/60 fps on PS360 to 1080p/60 fps.
- Trine gets bumped from 720p/30 fps to 1080p with much less stable and more variable frame rate.
- Half Life 2 is at 1080p but with the same inconsistent frame rates.

Doesn't sound too impressive. Zelda will be lucky if it got a 1080p bump on NX.
 

flkraven

Member
Honestly, if it's as a weak as the speculation here states then I'm sort of excited I have one less console to buy over the next year.
 

thefro

Member
Guess I'm probably out then, I have zero interest in handhelds and potential software droughts if third party don't join in.

This system is going to have much more software support from both Japanese & Western third parties than Wii U has. This report confirms that.

Heck, you're likely going to be able to play Witcher III on this thing, which is pretty cool.
 

aBarreras

Member
Current consoles (PS4, XB1) are more powerful than that and they are being replaced within the next 4-12 months because people are complaining that they can't keep up. This is very underwhelming.

and what does that have to do with tegra not reaching wii u levels?
 

thelastword

Banned
This may do well in Japan, but this is a mistake for the global market. Nintendo has to realize that low powered devices are not going to do them good anymore beyond the original Wii. People will just say, hey, my phone/tablet is more powerful than this and it can play so many games....,you need something to differentiate, yourself but I'm not sure this direction is the one that will profit them on the scale of the Wii.
 

bachikarn

Member
So disappointing. This is exactly what I didn't want from the next Nintendo hardware. I just see this thing costing too much to attract the handheld market, and too underpowered to pull in console gamers. Plus Tegra, UGH really.


I don't mind different, I wish consoles had more unique identities than they do now, but not like this. A hybrid was the worst possible thing Nintendo could have made. I can't see this selling more than Wii U let alone getting near 3DS numbers.

yeah, a Hyrbid is the worst of both worlds, but I'm honestly happy it is 'traditional'
 

Peltz

Member
I will be there day 1.

But this isn't the "new way to play" I was hoping for. Unless I'm missing something, this is not in par with the innovation provided by the DS and the Wii.

Yes, it's a better concept than both the 3DS and Wii U, but still not really capturing my imagination.

I am pretty concerned but they could pull this off and still make it a revolutionary if the form factor is great.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom