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DigiTimes: Foxconn trialing production of NX, ~10m units expected annually

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MuchoMalo

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that was for the "Nintendo NX Wii U" no doubt a bundle

or some idiot mistook the NX rumors for a Wii U revision and input it into the system. I'm talking bottom of the barrel pond scum who only got the job because his dad works at Tesco. not actually able to complete tasks but given a false sense of competency by his paycheck

They listed it as a Wii U game. That's why.
 

maxcriden

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I'm still betting there'll be two skus at launch; the unit minus the dock for a lower price (which is the point they'll advertise the hell out of) and one with the dock and relevant cables. That is assuming that the dock does more than just house the unit.

FWIW, think multiple SKUs at launch are unlikely insofar as it muddies the marketing waters and the rumored marketing revolves around hybrid nature of the system. I don't expect a HH only SKU till holiday at the earliest.

True enough. I think we have a pretty good idea of just how powerful this thing is right now (unless the dock adds extra processing power which seems to be the wild card last I'd heard). At this point I think the price is dependent on what the pack ins are. Are they giving you a dock and a pack in game for $349? Is the dock even launching with the system? These are the questions I'm most interested in.

A pack-in game is a big question mark for me. If it perceptibly adds value they should do so, as they did we with Wii Sports successfully and with Nintendo Land unsuccessfully (I love the game, though). As to the dock, if Eurogamer is to believed, the marketing will revolve around the hybrid nature of the system, so the dock included at launch is a certainty IMO.
 

L Thammy

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What if Hillary announces it during the debates?

"And that, Donald, is why we are stronger together... just like the new Nintendo NX which uses Supplemental Computing Devices, to be revealed next week via Nintendo Direct!"

The entire US political system is a front for Japanese gaming companies. It's like the plot of Killer7, but sillier.
 

MuchoMalo

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FWIW, think multiple SKUs at launch are unlikely insofar as it muddies the marketing waters and the rumored marketing revolves around hybrid nature of the system. I don't expect a HH only SKU till holiday at the earliest.



A pack-in game is a big question mark for me. If it perceptibly adds value they should do so, as they did we with Wii Sports successfully and with Nintendo Land unsuccessfully (I love the game, though). As to the dock, if Eurogamer is to believed, the marketing will revolve around the hybrid nature of the system, so the dock included at launch is a certainty IMO.

The main unit is rumored to have an HDMI port of its own though.
 

L Thammy

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I think they "owe" Nintendo fans at least an assurance that Nintendo is confident about their latest product and is willing and able to be transparent about what exactly their product actually is. They also owe Nintendo fans a reason to think that they really are invested in the future of their hardware and software ecosystem and strive to be better after the the failure that was the Wii U. Delaying the system or waiting till a few months to reveal the product before it's released does not show any of that.

I think they owe Nintendo fans a system that is worth owning for 5 years. Wii U kneecapped itself by being rushed out the door and having poor marketing. I'd rather NX fix this before anything; the only people who care if it takes a while before its announcement are forum-reading hardcore fans, and we weren't enough to support their last console.
 

maxcriden

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The main unit is rumored to have an HDMI port of its own though.

Even if it's on the main unit and not just the devkit, I think Nintendo won't want to advertise someone clunkily plugging the HH into the TV via cord. They'll want to show off a console-looking dock with various features.
 

jmizzal

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If we don't here something by the meeting, then its delayed. It's probably gonna go something like this on the day: "We have decided to wait until the new year to reveal the NX platform, and will now be releasing NX in the summer. We will not be discussing any thing else on NX in this meeting." Then the same day we'll get a lame Nintendo tweet saying " Next summer experience a whole new Nintendo with the NX!" Followed by " Mario is nearly here, on your phones!" GAF riots.

No more patience. They need to reveal it now.

Even if its delayed they should still reveal the thing this year, this is getting out of hand, just show it off, how hard is it to make some trailers for games in development
 

Aostia

El Capitan Todd
the only (small) tidbit I've heard is that "they will aim at (their idea of) core gamers at launch"
this worried me, about the launch price point.
 
I think they owe Nintendo fans a system that is worth owning for 5 years. Wii U kneecapped itself by being rushed out the door and having poor marketing. I'd rather NX fix this before anything; the only people who care if it takes a while before its announcement are forum-reading hardcore fans, and we weren't enough to support their last console.
NX should be more of a 3DS successor/new platform than a Wii U successor, right?
3DS was worth owning all these years since the initial price drop, I don't think we have *too* much to worry about.
 
Oh look, we are talking about investor meetings AGAIN.

*jumps out of the window*

raw


I couldn't resist.
 

udivision

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Donald Trump will talk about how will build another wall on the Pacific and make Sony and Nintendo pay for it, thus keeping NX and PlayStation 4 from threatening honest hard-working Scorpios.

Oh man, I'm not looking forward to the endless debates about whatever happened to those 3,000 stability updates Hillary deleted from her private 3DS. It's not like she's the only one using homebrew, but then again her lack of stability certainly is bad optics.
 

Thraktor

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the only (small) tidbit I've heard is that "they will aim at (their idea of) core gamers at launch"
this worried me, about the launch price point.

To be fair, trying to sell to the Nintendo fanbase as quickly as possible at launch isn't an entirely foolish proposition. Aside from a Wii Sports style breakout hit, games consoles don't generally sell to a casual audience out of the gate, as they're more than willing to wait until the library grows and they can get a good deal on the hardware bundled with a game or two. Nintendo want momentum from day one, though, and if they can get that group of a few million Nintendo fans to buy in the first three months, rather than the first three years, then third parties, retailers and investors will be a lot more confident of long-term success, which can be a self-fulfilling prophecy.

For all people blame XBO's poor start on the already-dropped DRM proposals, what really hurt them was that they forced launch buyers to spend an extra $100 on an accessory targeted entirely at casual owners, despite casuals and early adopters being almost completely distinct groups. Nintendo should definitely move towards attracting casual gamers as soon as they can, but it's Nintendo fans who are going to be there day one, so that's who their launch plans should be firmly targeted towards.
 

Turrican3

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Nintendo should definitely move towards attracting casual gamers as soon as they can, but it's Nintendo fans who are going to be there day one, so that's who their launch plans should be firmly targeted towards.
So they basically need another Wii. ^__^

I guess that's why we're getting another cross-generational Zelda, and with all the teams able to concentrate their efforts on a single platform I'm quite confident they can do some nice things from both a quantity and a quality perspective.
 
the only (small) tidbit I've heard is that "they will aim at (their idea of) core gamers at launch"
this worried me, about the launch price point.
It is going to launch with a Zelda game which would aim to core gamers at launch. Maybe that's what they meant...or they could launch at a fairly high price and later receive a price drop in ~6 months like with 3DS.
Not sure if this means $250 (like the 3DS and Vita) then dropped to $200 or $300->250, though. $250 is more of a core gamer price point for a handheld, 3DS didn't fair as well due to the poor specs vs its direct competitor and its weak line up. If the NX is >Wii U with the best version of BoTW I could see it doing pretty well at $250.
Wii did pretty well with TP and Wii sports at launch since it appealed to both demographics, if you appeal to one or the other you likely won't amass a big market
 

Thraktor

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It is going to launch with a Zelda game which would aim to core gamers at launch. Maybe that's what they meant...or they could launch at a fairly high price and later receive a price drop in ~6 months like with 3DS.
Not sure if this means $250 (like the 3DS and Vita) then dropped to $200 or $300->250, though. $250 is more of a core gamer price point for a handheld, 3DS didn't fair as well due to the poor specs vs its direct competitor and its weak line up. If the NX is >Wii U with the best version of BoTW I could see it doing pretty well at $250

I doubt they'll plan for a 6-month price drop, it doesn't exactly look good to drop the price that quickly. It would make more sense to just go for a reasonable price out of the gate, and then perhaps have some bundles ready for Christmas.

I'd image it's more about games. We already know about Zelda (which is a big enough draw for most Nintendo fans), but there are several other of their internal studios which could have big franchise games ready for launch, so it's possible they'll stack fan favourites around the launch window and then try to get a few casual releases out in time for the holidays.

Does it get close to PS4 Pro in terms of specs? If not, then $349 is not acceptable by the market standards.

It's a handheld. If it gets close to PS4 Pro specs for $349 then we might as well start accusing Nintendo of witchcraft.
 

nikatapi

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I think anything above 250 euros (or dollars) will be suicidal. They need to get back on the affordable train, and do it with a reasonable technological proposition. If the device is capable to run some AAA games at 720p i think 250 is the most reasonable price they can go with.
 

Pif

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I see it as a new CEO trying something different. I don't see it as a personal affront to Nintendo fans.

But, eh, maybe Kimishima is sitting on this information, having NeoGAF translated by Treehouse, and laughing his ass off at the millions of speculation threads posted on this site.

Yeah. He probably spends his days like that
 

IntelliHeath

As in "Heathcliff"
Means nothing. The EG rumor was September. Emily said October. Investor's meeting is at the end of the month. People need patience.

Patience? NeoGAF? Never! I would like to think there are some people would built their shrine to Nintendo and praying that they would get NX news this week.
 
I doubt they'll plan for a 6-month price drop, it doesn't exactly look good to drop the price that quickly. It would make more sense to just go for a reasonable price out of the gate, and then perhaps have some bundles ready for Christmas.

I'd image it's more about games. We already know about Zelda (which is a big enough draw for most Nintendo fans), but there are several other of their internal studios which could have big franchise games ready for launch, so it's possible they'll stack fan favourites around the launch window and then try to get a few casual releases out in time for the holidays.
If they're in short supply as this thread would have us believe, a higher price to decrease the demand but increase revenue through the short supply could work. Usually at launch you're guaranteed around 2-3 million sales from long time fans and they do want to make money off of this so either that or a deluxe system could work.
Wii U did do that and it didn't work making the basic seem worthless, but maybe something smarter like Zelda bundle but with the same amount of memory
 
I was just thinking of a new IP I would most like to see Nintendo explore

I would like Retro Studios to work on an open world arcade racer like Forza Horizon or The Crew - a huge world full of car racing goodness

He's locked in my basement staring at a PowerPoint presentation of nude portraits of me.

bruh

not cool, not cool
 

fossi8

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So, if we dont see a reveal in Sept, the Eurogamer rumor can be considered totally false so the detachable controllers and portable console is a lie so there is no hybrid .. so we start again !
 

udivision

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So, if we dont see a reveal in Sept, the Eurogamer rumor can be considered totally false so the detachable controllers and portable console is a lie so there is no hybrid .. so we start again !

Not really, no.

Reveal dates can change.

The hardware (info of which is based on actual people using actual devkits) probably can't in such a short tie frame. That's more concrete.
 

jonno394

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So, if we dont see a reveal in Sept, the Eurogamer rumor can be considered totally false so the detachable controllers and portable console is a lie so there is no hybrid .. so we start again !

Well not really, but it just becomes a little less believable. Things happen, and a reveal pushback of a few weeks is within the realms of possibility.
 
350 is only acceptable if it does everything the rumors are saying it can do... If it is a beefed up portable Wii U that can be used on the go and at home I think they can get away with 350.


Portable gaming at 720
Docked gaming at 1080
Unified IP on 1 platform
Unified Account structure
Easy to code for with low level API like Vulkan
 

udivision

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350 is only acceptable if it does everything the rumors are saying it can do... If it is a beefed up portable Wii U that can be used on the go and at home I think they can get away with 350.


Portable gaming at 720
Docked gaming at 1080
Unified IP on 1 platform
Unified Account structure
Easy to code for with low level API like Vulkan

There's no way they could get away with that.

I just can't see it.
 
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