Chie Satonaka
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What the hell even happens with the American left now?
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United States Election: Nov. 8, 2016 |OT| Hate Trumps Love
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Jesus, even Carolyn Porco, a very kind, sensible scientist, has kind of lost it earlier...
Carolyn Porco ‏@carolynporco 2h2 hours ago
Carolyn Porco Retweeted The New York Times
Fuck you, Florida. You will get what you had coming to you when you disappear into the ocean.
I feel incredible sorrow knowing I cannot object to her hostility. The fact a planetary scientist is calling for planetary chaos is remarkably dark..
Maybe they can admit Neoliberalism has failed? Our Left are Centrists.
We need a real Left.
Carolyn Porco ‏@carolynporco 2h2 hours ago
Carolyn Porco Retweeted The New York Times
Fuck you, Florida. You will get what you had coming to you when you disappear into the ocean.
I feel incredible sorrow knowing I cannot object to her hostility. The fact a planetary scientist is calling for planetary chaos is remarkably dark..
Maybe they can admit Neoliberalism has failed? Our Left are Centrists.
We need a real Left.
They have no choice.
SchrodingerC
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Oh, and of course the people of Florida reelected Rubio. What the hell does anyone see in that man, or his politics.
Tom Nook Sawyer
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Couldn't have said it better
Trump makes Teresa May seem like a completely different species of intelligence.
The only saving grace is that the USA somehow managed to survive Bush, so I'm sure they can survive Trump.
I'll just remind everyone that trump means fart in the UK.
Angelus Errare
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Dude this will have effects that go beyond 4 years. We're talking decades upon decades.
So much shit is about to be fucked that people aren't aware of
Social Welfare? Gone
Affirmative Action? Gone
Voter's Rights Act? Gone
Net Neutrality? Gone
Abortion Rights? Gone
Expanded War on Drugs
Marriage Equality? Gone
Minimum wage? In some states gone
Mass Deportation
Racial Profiling
Expanded corporate influence over the government
Even more tax breaks for the 1%
It goes on and on.
Yup. Audit the DNC and find out what you did wrong.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
At least we're gonna be spared Trump.TV
The point is that there is an angry white class driven largely by nativist sentiment and a feeling of economic disenfranchisement in first world nations. Their influence has been increasing over time and its led to both Brexit and Trump. These people want change no matter what even if the change is burning things down. They ultimately don't care if things negatively affect people that don't look like them because those people are part of the problem.
Fine Ham Abounds
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We don't get checks and balances after tonight though, not exactly or at least not to any degree which anyone should be comfortable. The stars have aligned tonight to throw all three branches under one banner.
Maybe it should have been that congress can't stonewall on SCOTUS nominations? Too late now.
It's exactly who they played to because they saw they were the biggest demographic, the common denominator, and he played every note he knew the desperate and gullible needed to hear. He learned early on that he didn't need to explain in detail to them how he would deliver on any of his promises, because these are the type of people who don't ask smart questions. It didn't matter that Clinton's plan showed better job growth for them, all he had to say was his was better and they bought that BS.
It pains me that we're leaving the progress of our country up to folks who want to see it backpedal. Who are scared of progress because they are the least equipped to adapt and thrive. Who don't know how to process the bigger picture of the greater good.
spyroflame0487
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I bet the guys at South Park are furiously redrawing scenes for the episode tomorrow.
Strangelove77
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I feel like I'm being trolled. That people just voted for him because it'd be funny if he won.
"For the lulz", so to speak.
"For the lulz", so to speak.
People vote for Trump because their privilege blinds what little empathy they may have.
If you vote Trump because a few people pissed you off, you are damning an entire group based on the actions of 1 or 2. If this is enough for you to say "fuck them" then you were never going to be an ally.
That boondocks picture is so extremely true. We as minorities have done nothing but fight, act better and push for equal rights and what do we have to show for it? Trump leading.
Hey.
The Auxiliary
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As a non-straight, non-white, non-gender binary person, I guess it's time to die.
Bernie has a message for rural Americans. Hes a politician from a rural state, who understands rural people, their problems, their concerns, and can talk to them in a convincing way. Hillary cannot play that game convincingly, and it shows. She can't talk to rural, lower to lower-middle class white people in a convincing way. Shes actually a pretty shitty retail politician across the board, who often comes off as inauthentic.
She has lost counties and states that Obama won in an country with more registered Democrats and more brown people than 2012 and 2008. Plenty of people, here and elsewhere, cheered the idea of a voting coalition thst was exclusionary to poorer, rural white Americans. But for better or worse you can't build a winning coalition in 2016 that writes off all of the white people that don't live in big cities.
Plenty of people saw this coming during the primaries, but were also happy to be seemingly proven wrong once polling started rolling in showing Clinton with a comfortable lead. I count myself among them, but the fact of the matter is my lifelong Republican Dad and Grandma were talking to me this summer about how they didn't like Trump or Hillary but they sure liked that Bernie guy. I dismissed it as anecdotal at the time... But maybe there was something to it.
cr_blah_blah
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Can we blame this on millennials yet?
the fuck
Hillary fucked up.
The DNC fucked up.
The campaign and the combination of vote-against-not-for & public shame tactics backfired.
To argue otherwise is to continue to subscribe to the same kind of general ignorance (blissful initially, not so much now) and hubris that led to this outcome.
Anyway, I don't think it's good for the country to have the same party in the white house for more than 8 yrs so as somebody who doesn't like Hillary or Trump and felt we would be fucked either way, I'm okay with this outcome for that reason.
The DNC fucked up.
The campaign and the combination of vote-against-not-for & public shame tactics backfired.
To argue otherwise is to continue to subscribe to the same kind of general ignorance (blissful initially, not so much now) and hubris that led to this outcome.
Anyway, I don't think it's good for the country to have the same party in the white house for more than 8 yrs so as somebody who doesn't like Hillary or Trump and felt we would be fucked either way, I'm okay with this outcome for that reason.
AsylumBlue
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I'm pretty sure this sentiment is part of the reason why Trump won.
Yea this will be so fun.
It's probably going to be even worse considering how vocal so many of them are.
Fake edit: actually if it's already this bad maybe it won't get worse.
And those people are ignorant fucks. Racism happens on all sides.
Small victories for my American friends/ family. As someone who falls into multiple minority categories I have never felt more scared and will now not be visiting any relatives in the states for the foreseeable future. I'll be here in Canada trying to help any friends who genuinely need to move for fear of their safety.
viewtifulsub
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Seeing the increase heated racial divide only shows how Trump was able to capitalise on this win.
Other than that, thanks for fucking up America
Other than that, thanks for fucking up America
Sunster
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is it? how? you were hurt by that?
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
I remember saying that a lot and being told to shut up because Hilary was the only candidate who was a sure thing...... Now look at us..... we're all fucked.
SmackAttack
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Please explain what this means. How is Trump any good for the nation as a whole? What was so bad about America before that he'll change and make great again? I'm genuinely curious if one supporter can explain it to me.
NullPointer
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Van Jones is the voice of truth right now.
crazygambit
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I'm not American, but GAF has been telling me for months there was "literally zero chance Trump would win", so what's happening?
Clearly GAF has no idea how probability works, since it was never zero to begin with, but is Trump really gonna win or is there still a chance for Hillary?
Clearly GAF has no idea how probability works, since it was never zero to begin with, but is Trump really gonna win or is there still a chance for Hillary?
l2ounD
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Gary Johnson
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