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[modsbox]

Good point, when is the last time we seen or heard anything about Crackdown?

This is where my head went right away after seeing this news. Really looking forward to Crackdown but what we've seen so far leaves me very, very skeptical, especially after this news. Originally billed as a 'power of the cloud' title I assume it's going to be the Scorpio launch title at this point?

If they lose Scalebound and Crackdown 2017 would not look good for Xbox.

 

[SOR5]

There had to be a transformers fanboy executive at activision. That game was no where near Korra or Turtles.

This is a huge win for me TBH
(Since I've never watched TNMT, never will)
Platimun will probably never, ever make any exclusives with the turtles ever again.

So any if not all Platinum games will go to Transformers.
It's a great win for me and Transformers.

* Finger's crossed Transformers get this exclusive -just re-skin the characters.

 

[drsoup]

 

[~Cross~]

There is a writer on twitter saying he was close to one of the platinum devs and says they were played pretty much the same way the Phantom Dust devs were. They were given insane milestones and withheld funding for the past year. So that seems to be MS's go to when they want to get out of a contracted game.

fucked up if true

 

[CCIE]

The optional cloud computing this is, and always has been, something of a joke for those with a little network savvy.

 

[Wereroku]

This is bad if true. Part of the reason why the whole competition is good thing is a joke. What's more important is who is actually competing and what the competitors are doing for the health of the industry overall. This type of behavior puts devs out of business and hurts the industry.

Since I talked about this I should probably post the twitter.

Link

He seems pretty open and identified but who knows.

What's his twitter?
And if this is true, well a really shitty move by Spencer and co.

Posted above had to go find him again. Seems to work with CNET AU.

 

[Replicant]

Ah, here's what I was looking for

July 2015: "Those shits at MS...are they fucking with me?"

This thread is a MESS.

Spoiler

Moar!

 

[Maxim726X]

Wow, I knew Sony was killing it, but it's not even a contest. I feel like there has to be something not right here, haha.

Looks to me like Microsoft doesn't really give a shit.

They have the money. They're choosing not to invest... Couple that with the emergence of Windows 10 gaming. Certainly makes you wonder.

 

[SlipperyFishes]

There is a writer on twitter saying he was close to one of the platinum devs and says they were played pretty much the same way the Phantom Dust devs were. They were given insane milestones and withheld funding for the past year. So that seems to be MS's go to when they want to get out of a contracted game.

Link?

 

[Newtype-001]

There is a writer on twitter saying he was close to one of the platinum devs and says they were played pretty much the same way the Phantom Dust devs were. They were given insane milestones and withheld funding for the past year. So that seems to be MS's go to when they want to get out of a contracted game.

Fucked up if true

 

[Chobel]

There is a writer on twitter saying he was close to one of the platinum devs and says they were played pretty much the same way the Phantom Dust devs were. They were given insane milestones and withheld funding for the past year. So that seems to be MS's go to when they want to get out of a contracted game.

Link?

 

[icespide]

this will be the biggest gaming news until Mass Effect gets delayed

 

[eso76]

Yeah, I mean..My interest died the moment we saw gameplay. The game was obviously a mess and killing it was probably the right thing to do.
But things aren't looking very exciting for Microsoft right now.

 

[SOR5]

Wow, I knew Sony was killing it, but it's not even a contest. I feel like there has to be something not right here, haha.

Because games are more fun when only I can play them!

 

[ViewtifulJC]

There is a writer on twitter saying he was close to one of the platinum devs and says they were played pretty much the same way the Phantom Dust devs were. They were given insane milestones and withheld funding for the past year. So that seems to be MS's go to when they want to get out of a contracted game.

Rip platinum

 

[OmegaSmash]

The one-size-fits-all approach is a terrible way to do things. It limits your platform's scope and breadth of content. Only a handful of games could do it.

Sports games could do it, EASILY.

Online Shooters could do it, EASILY.

Fighters can't. Platformers can't. RPG's can't. Action games can't. But then again, I'm left wondering 'what's left anymore?'

They got KI doing just that.

 

[DirgeExtinction]

Damn, this is surprising.

 

[pixxxelz]

If platinum don't have a project on switch after this shit and nier inevitably bombing...

Clover studios 2.0 😭

Are you a psychic or something..

 

[facetheslayer92]

it was just a tech demo BS. Probably isn't wise to think cloud computing will manifest itself like that in the final product.

I still want it tho :/

 

[Vbrasa]

That is a real shame, it was the only Xbox One title I was looking forward to!

It getting put on PC was a big bonus to me, but if it's actually cancelled, I will be sad.

 

[Orca]

Scalebound is a surprisingly important title for one that was decried as awful every time it was demoed.

I thought it had potential, but wanted to see a lot more before getting super hyped about it.

 

[Kade]

Scalebound was literally the only reason I wanted an Xbox One before they announced the Live Anywhere initiative. I sold my Xbox One but realized that was a mistake when I realized how inconsistent and usually horrible UWP games were and Backwards Compatibility was announced so I was willing to get a cheap boxing day S model as my Scalebound and BC machine but this news really ruined my day. It's one of a few 2017 releases that I was really excited for despite some of the jankiness in the demos. Business is business though and I accept that but it still hurts. 😢

 

[Wereroku]

Link?

Tweet I was referencing.

 

[n0razi]

What?

You have no idea on what led to this situation? For all we know it's a case of "this game ain't ever getting made without leadership from Kamiya"

And if Kamiya needs time to get into a better place with his mental health then I'll take cancellations across the board.

There is a writer on twitter saying he was close to one of the platinum devs and says they were played pretty much the same way the Phantom Dust devs were. They were given insane milestones and withheld funding for the past year. So that seems to be MS's go to when they want to get out of a contracted game.

.

 

[Maxrunner]

Typical Ms. Platinum should have known better.

 

[shandy706]

Well this sucks.

One of the games I really wanted. Was excites about the scale of the game and the soundtrack.

 

[moltonasty]

I think japanese devs have learned a valuable lesson here. Never work with MS

 

[Teeth]

Are you a psychic or something..

Nier 2 will likely be awesome.

Nier 2 is incredibly niche.

 

[Pie and Beans]

There is a writer on twitter saying he was close to one of the platinum devs and says they were played pretty much the same way the Phantom Dust devs were. They were given insane milestones and withheld funding for the past year. So that seems to be MS's go to when they want to get out of a contracted game.

It's also worth remembering the project automatically ballooned from an Xbox One title to having to support all manner of PC's because that became Microsoft's new direction with "Xbox".

This all becomes hilarious when remembering Microsoft splashes cash like a maniac with things like $26.6 billion on LinkedIn.

"Ohhhh, couldn't hit that virtually impossible milestone ehhhhhh? Too bad."

Oh and I see Arthur Gies is being a total dickhead on Twitter again about this. Quelle surpris.

 

[UrbanRats]

I like how patterns for MS mean something but with Platinum it's all the publishers fault. Everything they've released since Bayonetta 2 has been poor to average at best when they used to make consistently amazing titles that felt really unique.

Also, say what you will about MS pulling funding, but it doesn't change the fact that most of the big risks they've made over the last couple of generations (particularly with Japanese studios) have all flopped in some regard. It's not too surprising they're sticking to safer strategies even if it means that the game division's just going to suffer a slightly slower death.

3 of those games listed are tie ins on a string budget, one of which is actually good (Transformers).
Bayonetta 2, came out only 2 years ago, is a masterpiece.

Nier is also looking great from the demo.

When they are given the resources they are very likely to deliver, there's your pattern.

 

[The Mad Draklor]

There is a writer on twitter saying he was close to one of the platinum devs and says they were played pretty much the same way the Phantom Dust devs were. They were given insane milestones and withheld funding for the past year. So that seems to be MS's go to when they want to get out of a contracted game.

It true, then why the hell is MS burning bridges like this?

 

[DrkSage]

Agreed, Jesus. Hope that's not what happened.

If it goes down that road, uuuuuff.... some are going to eat crow. (The ones saying this wasn't on Microsoft and it was all on platinum)

 

[Sadist]

I didn't have much interest in Scalebound, but it's still a damn shame. Hope Platinum have something else to work on.

Another canned Xbox project btw. Wonder how projects actually get greenlit these days at MS.

Edit; Kamiya's mental health? What?

 

[DirgeExtinction]

Who had the publishing rights to this? MS or Platinum? If Platinum, imagine either Sony or Nintendo saving them, like what happened with Bayonetta 2.

 

[CCIE]

Scalebound itself wasn't that important. It is what it represented that matters... I swear the next major project/group to be canned is probably going to be Rare. And growing up with Rare, that would be pretty tragic.

Like the day that Sega exited the gaming market. And yes, they are still there, but they really aren't.

 

[aadiboy]

The one-size-fits-all approach is a terrible way to do things. It limits your platform's scope and breadth of content. Only a handful of games could do it.

Sports games could do it, EASILY.

Online Shooters could do it, EASILY.

Fighters can't. Platformers can't. RPG's can't. Action games can't. But then again, I'm left wondering 'what's left anymore?'

MMORPGs are kinda the RPG version of that type of game though, and they do pretty good. But yeah, it doesn't work for all types of games.

 

[Wereroku]

It true, then why the hell is MS burning bridges like this?

Some have speculated they have just changed course and decided to do games as a service and didn't want to put anymore funds into scalebound.

 

[Cess007]

Tweet I was referencing.

Damn, his reply about one full year lost due Microsoft sounds so shitty, if true

 

[deoee]

https://twitter.com/CobaltIzuna/status/818592010797842432

Now he will never experience true 4k

 

[Maxrunner]

I think japanese devs have learned a valuable lesson here. Never work with MS

There it is.gif

 

[icespide]

I feel like we need some updates to the OP or some sticky posts particularly for:

- cuphead will not/can not get canceled, its independent
- Microsoft owns the Scalebound IP so Sony or Nintendo can't save it

 

[bombshell]

There is a writer on twitter saying he was close to one of the platinum devs and says they were played pretty much the same way the Phantom Dust devs were. They were given insane milestones and withheld funding for the past year. So that seems to be MS's go to when they want to get out of a contracted game.

That is disgusting if true.

 

[Leyasu]

Has looked awful whenever they showed it.

Totally. The game was going to bomb hard anyway.

 

[Psychological Intellect]

Looked like shit everytime they showed it. Not surprised.

 

[Gurish]

I'm worried about X-Box, I feel like if Scorpio won't change things significantly for them than that's it, they are out.

The AAA industry would be in big trouble if such thing happens, Sony alone can't hold AAA gaming

 

[Newtype-001]

Tweet I was referencing.

Lol who is that tool replying to him like no its platinums fault

 

[Lifeline]

E3 2014 Microsoft Console Exclusives Shown:

Future Games:

1. Fable Legends: Cancelled
2. Project Spark: Released and then cancelled
3. Ori and the Blind Forest: Came out 2015, 360 version cancelled?
4. Inside: Came out 2016
5. Below: Unreleased
6. Phantom Dust: Cancelled, looking to start over with new development team
7. Crackdown: Unreleased
8. Scalebound: Cancelled
9. Halo 5: Came out 2015
10. Rise of the Tomb Raider: Came out 2015 (Not shown at E3 as exclusive, Wasn't announced as being exclusive till August)

Same Year Games:
1. Dance Central Spotlight: Came out 2014
2. Sunset Overdrive: Came out 2014
3. Happy Wars: Came out 2014
4. Forza Horizon 2: Came out 2014
5. Threes: Came out 2014
6. Halo: The Master Chief Collection: Came out 2014
7. Shape Up: Came out 2014


E3 2014 Sony Console Exclusives Shown:

Future Games:

1. Deep Down: Unreleased
2. Eve: Valkyrie: Came out 2016
3. Let It Die: Came out 2016
4. The Order: 1886: Came out 2015
5. The Witness: Came out 2016
6. Everybody's Gone to the Rapture: Came out 2015
7. Bloodborne: Came out 2015
8. No Man's Sky: Came out 2016
9. Ratchet & Clank: Came out 2016
10. Uncharted 4: A Thief's End: Came out 2016
11. Abzu: Came out 2016
12. Grim Fandango Remastered: Came out 2015
13. Broforce: Came out 2016
14. Planetside 2: Came out 2015
15. Magika 2: Came out 2015

Same Year Games:
1. Guilty Gear Xrd -SIGN-: Came out 2014
2. Natural Doctrine: Came out 2014
3. Akiba's Trip: Came out 2014
4. Driveclub: Came out 2014
5. CounterSpy: Came out 2014
6. Entwined: Came out 2014
7. LittleBigPlanet 3: Came out 2014

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

Are you a psychic or something..

It's Nier. It'll be lucky to sell over 50,000 copies. I'm not dissing the game. That's reality.

 

[FinaruDensetsu]

Since I talked about this I should probably post the twitter.

Link

He seems pretty open and identified but who knows.



Posted above had to go find him again. Seems to work with CNET AU.

Ugh... Gies with that hard defense haha.

 

[Jarmel]

This should be interesting as I have a feeling we're going to be seeing people at Platinum and Microsoft point the finger at the other party. Microsoft is going to be saying that Platinum was having technical problems and were out of their depth. They'll probably the cite the month long vacation and milestones as evidence of that. Platinum on the other hand will likely be saying the milestones were impossible and Microsoft cut off funding and support. Hopefully we get some quality sneak fuck work and get a solid article out of this.

This is going to be bitter.