wapplew
Member
Off course. 1S+Scorpio for gen7, Scorpio+next thing for gen8.
1S+Scorpio+next thing in extreme case, because they don't do reset, so every console with Windows 10 count.
Like how we count iOS/Andriod devices.
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PS4 Tops January 2017 US Sales
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Off course. 1S+Scorpio for gen7, Scorpio+next thing for gen8.
1S+Scorpio+next thing in extreme case, because they don't do reset, so every console with Windows 10 count.
Like how we count iOS/Andriod devices.
come on man the spec bump in the S is basically a side effect. They had no intentions of boosting it
UsuriousPower
Neo Member
Scorpio isn't a mid-gen upgrade or next gen console. It's just a more powerful console in the same ecosystem.
A side effect? It's something MS intentionally did.
Sangetsu-II
Member
lol, no.
They literally never advertise it and specifically tell people to expect the same performance as the original
So now the spec bump worthy something?
Because if i'm not wrong, the spec bump is there only for the HDR/4K features.
But the vanilla doesn't exists anymore. It was replaced by slim.
Then the real context is xbox one S v PS4+PRO.
Clearly its not a next gen.
OK, so since it wasn't advertised it doesn't count...
Doing it for HDR, 4K is fine. But because it also affected fps it doesn't count for that...Because they didn't advertise it and that was not intentional...
If it's worthy is debatable. But it's still something MS intentionally did to the CPU.
OK, another difference is MS didn't advertise it.
Give it up already.
The Mad Draklor
Member
I'm really surprised that this debate is still ongoing. The Pro is still fundamentally a PS4. If the Pro is running on a Zen/Vega APU, however, then the Pro is not fundamentally a PS4 (this is just an exaggerated example to make a point, btw).
slavesnyder
Member
People who see the Pro as next gen are easily satisfied.
Same goes for the Scorpio. Which isn't a next-gen console.
I'm not saying it doesn't count. I'm saying MS does not intend for people to expect more power from the S
Bitch Pudding
Member
CosmicQueso
Member
Perfection.
Bitch Pudding
Member
butman
Member
What the point of a powerful machine if there's no games?
DriftingSpirit
Member
Halo Wars 2?
Oh yeah. For some reason I keep forgetting about that game.
Well, if I had to guess:
For Honor > Halo Wars 2 > Nioh
Primethius
Banned
I wouldn't be surprised if Nioh outsells HW2 but I doubt it given that it seems to be undershipped.
For Honor should easily do double both their numbers combined give the reception to it so far.
For Honor should easily do double both their numbers combined give the reception to it so far.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
That's not real is it? With Donald I genuinely can't tell?
The fonts being blurry in the background, but in focus for the tweet text should give it away. Also, take a look at the date stamp (Nov. 27, 2016). There are lots of fake Trump tweets going around (pretty much a meme at this point) and yep this one is fake too.
El-Pistolero
Member
Slim is also a new hardware then. Should we separate its sales from those of the Vanilla version, which is still in circulation?
Also, according to Sony, the release of the Pro does not nullify the concept of generations; I am inclined to trust their words more than I do your perception...
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Ha I see it now thanks.
Hidden One
Member
Microsoft was really feeling themselves when they won like 3-4 months when they released the slim lol. Back to business as usual now.
Scorpio
The Mad Draklor
Member
FTFY
Birgitte2004
Member
Didn't you hear? A tech at Microsoft spilled coffee on the assembly line which made a couple of the parts, right at the spot where the sole printout of the design was located, so they couldn't just make more.
At that point Microsoft had no choice but to modify the Slim architecture.
I swear it to be true, I heard it from my Cousin's Dog's Chew-Toy's former owner, who was a barrista who once sold coffee to Bill Gates himself!
DriftingSpirit
Member
I think Nioh will do better than HW2. Nioh will surprise and HW2 will go under the radar.
VanCityGamer
Member
You can't possibly think that's real?
Yes, the president is tweeting about videogame sales.
Give it a few weeks and he might just.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Horizon is number 20 on Amazon's best selling of 2017 chart and it still has a bit more than 2 weeks until launch. Looking real good.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2017/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar
https://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2017/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar
Primethius
Banned
Someone just needs to tell Trump that Obama wouldn't tweet about videogames.
FinaruDensetsu
Member
Wow the Scorpio really makes a lot of people go nuts... What the hell are some of these posts I'm reading...
And I'm not even talking about wapplew. I'm convinced he/she is a Sony fan who just posts really ridiculous things posing as an Xbox fan to make Xbox fans look bad.
And I'm not even talking about wapplew. I'm convinced he/she is a Sony fan who just posts really ridiculous things posing as an Xbox fan to make Xbox fans look bad.
Some people are desperate to claim a win for MS, like even if they win, even with Scorpio out, they would be close to catch ps4. MS would need 3 more years and for sony to stop the production of PS4s in order to catch up.
TetraGenesis
Member
I think the internet is giving a really big false impression of how the game will actually do. Going by message boards and twitch only I'd think this game would be a smash hit. The U.K. Charts should shed some light on it. If it's 20-25k debut then I think it's gonna do not very well in NA. But it could turn out to be a hit
Majmun
Member
It is. But it's also still a Ps4.
Just like how Nintendo DS Lite and DSi are a Nintendo DS.
And how 3DSXL and New 3DS(XL) and 2DS are counted as 3DS.
Primethius
Banned
I'm not necessarily expecting Nioh to be big hit. But I'm also thinking Halo Wars 2 will have a much more muted launch given the interest I'm seeing around it. Largely speculation and while I wouldn't be surprised if HW2 outsold Nioh, I wouldn't be surprised at the opposite happening either given that at this point, it's really mostly about predicting how much HW2 will decline from HW1.
Welfare
Member
Yeah, HW2 is a big question mark on sales potential. Halo Wars sold 639K in 5 weeks of the March 2009 NPD and Halo Wars 2 only has one week in February while also being released at a point where the Halo brand is weaker than the peak of 2007 - 2010. ~200K debut would be good for the game.
Nioh will have 3 weeks of tracking so its sales potential for the month is higher than if it was only one week. How well that will do will to be seen, but if consumers are receptive to it then I could see it hitting over 200K.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
I've seen a few people post this in this thread but I'm yet to see anyone say it. I'm obviously not digging hard enough into the thread.
MatPiscatella
Member
Stop.
Just stop it.
For the love of everything jusssssst sssssstttttttoooooooppppppppppppppp.
It's a new PS4. Running PS4 software. Aggregates with all other PS4 models to the total PS4 installed base.
slavesnyder
Member
Sony fans are used to that, so no worries.
*Claps*
Sangetsu-II
Member
A NPD Guy geting mad just proves how crazy fanatism in these threads gets.