Possumowner
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Nice specs,and nice for 360 games as well.All comes down to price for me personally,and more games.Cant see this being higher than 399
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Digital Foundry: Xbox Scorpio
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jim2point0
Banned
I mean.... when people quote their PC performance, they're always talking about ultra(ish) settings. Consoles do not run games at those settings though. They're always turned down quite a bit.
XBox One game are already running at settings lower than PS4 most of the time. At those settings + 6TF.... I dunno. Maybe I can see 4K\60 happening in recent titles. Maybe.
The GRASS WARS: PART DEUX will start with Red Dead Redemption 2 as lines will be drawn in the sand, the battle will be waged as Xbox One Scorpio and PS4 Pro face off against PC. Which version will have more bushes, will there be a discernible difference? Tune in to find out more.
sankt-Antonio
:^)--?-<
I meant like PS4pro supported titles with additional gfx elements even in 1080p.
OmegaTreeFish
Banned
When it comes down to it this is all pretty much how it should have been expected. The PS4 Pro and Scropio arnt machines designed to tempt one side to the other but for the enthusiast gamers of each respective platform to get a more powerful version of.
You like Xbox but want 4k and better performance you get scorpio.
You like Playstions platform but want 4k and better performance you get PS4 Pro.
Its good both options will exist. Whats really intersting is what happens in 3 years or so. Another mid jump or a brand new gen? Was this simply to help with the rise of 4k or is this a plan going forwards? Thats whats interesting to me.
If I had gone with xbox this gen like I did last I would be absolutely getting this. However I went sony so I got a Pro. Tech wise this was interesting but I wont be getting one. Pretty sure most people wont be able to notice much difference between PS4 Pro and Scorpio versions of games in the same way I bet most people dont notice the difference between Xbox One and PS4 games. The difference will be there but without having it pointed out I will be surprise if its remotely obvious. However a 4k solution with other improvements on both sides of the fence is great.
You like Xbox but want 4k and better performance you get scorpio.
You like Playstions platform but want 4k and better performance you get PS4 Pro.
Its good both options will exist. Whats really intersting is what happens in 3 years or so. Another mid jump or a brand new gen? Was this simply to help with the rise of 4k or is this a plan going forwards? Thats whats interesting to me.
If I had gone with xbox this gen like I did last I would be absolutely getting this. However I went sony so I got a Pro. Tech wise this was interesting but I wont be getting one. Pretty sure most people wont be able to notice much difference between PS4 Pro and Scorpio versions of games in the same way I bet most people dont notice the difference between Xbox One and PS4 games. The difference will be there but without having it pointed out I will be surprise if its remotely obvious. However a 4k solution with other improvements on both sides of the fence is great.
Not to mention the extra work they have to do to get the motherboard to be customized for the CPU for efficiency
MosquitoSmasher
Member
DF clearly was very impressed and surprised with their findings but overall this is still kinda what we expected, is it not? I mean the power difference compared to PS4 Pro. Or have the expectations een exceeded? And of course it always remains to be seen how significant the differences are going to be between multiplats on both systems. Will it be a X1 versus PS4 situation or a bigger gap i wonder?
2blackcats
Member
False. But patched games should.
Obliterator
Member
Scorpio to Pro is a bigger jump in power than PS4 to OG Xbox One
Savantcore
Unconfirmed Member
Reminder that the X1 launched at $499, so MS clearly think it's a consumer-friendly price.
Absolutely. But judging by some posts in this thread, it seem that people want to spend more money on this console which is strange af lol.
MS knows what they're doing with the Scorpio. They'll price it to sell.
geordiemp
Member
Its a 10 % increase, 2.1 to 2.3 is what exactly ?
4K is nice, I have a pro and 4K set, but I would of killed for a console that could do 1080p60 on Witcher 3 for example.
LOL at few posts above.... the grass will look nicer LMAO
Roll on 2018.....
Only slight more powerful!! After that impressive video thats what they took away from it? And even that is utterly false.
Its a significant leap - DF have said that this level of craftsmanship has put them firmly back as the leaders of hardware, and that doesnt mean building with more powerful parts.
The DX12 piece seems like marketing speak to me. As in "supercharged PC architecture" and "power of the cloud".
TheJollyCorner
Member
Rushersauce
Banned
People read the specs and had been hoping for:
In reading the specs, I read cooler, better clocks, more mhz, more RAM and think, yeah, that should be a pretty decent difference, but not the monster people envisioned. it will be an impressive console for sure. People need video proof of games in motion in 4K before they ooh and ahhh. It's a HUGE improvement over the Xbox One S. it's a good improvement over the competition. 1 Year later and at unknown price difference.
Obviously it was an unrealistic expectation, but part of me was hoping Microsoft would brute force performance improvements with new tech and not by Macgyvering existing. So my main disappointment is with the CPU, the 60fps dream is in jeopardy as it sounds like the improvements are restricted to DX12 enabled titles.
I guess ultimately, we'll just have to see how effective the secret sauce is.
killatopak
Gold Member
pretty accurate since it's about 40% better in both cases.
Just look at the visual differences between og ps4 and xbo then you'll see the same differences on the Scorpio/Pro.
The part about the settings is not even true. The vast vast majority of multi plays is running the same quality just with the Xbox running at a lower resolution.
ChanDangle
Member
Can someone explain to me why I would choose this over building a PC, I'm talking both hardware and software? Thanks!
The GRASS WARS: PART DEUX will start with Red Dead Redemption 2 as lines drawn in the sand between Xbox One Scorpio and PS4 Pro face off against PC. Which version will have more bushes, will there be a dicernible difference? Tune in to find out more.
Nvidia Turf.
Nuff said.
It looks like a fantastic, well thought out Xbox One. All my old peripherals work and games work the same or better. I don't have to worry about downgraded visuals or performance compared to even the base PS4 if I choose to go with an Xbox version of a multi-platform game. I'm satisfied with that.
I think if people weren't satisfied by this, their expectations were not in line with the 6TF machine Microsoft said it would be, and/or never were interested to begin with.
Primethius
Banned
You must not have been around during the early PS3 days.
It's an easy excuse for people to dismiss large amounts of people without much thought.
And it's pathetic at that too.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I don't think they're doing another Kinect for Scorpio.
Duxxy3
Member
You can build a better PC but it'll be like 3x the price
... what about it?
In the OP
How do you calculate 50%?
If the PS4 Pro has 8 GB RAM and Scorpio has 12 GB RAM, isn't it more like 33% more RAM?
Last_colossi
Member
This is all I want from Scorpio (and what I wanted from the Pro)
TheStruggler
Report me for trolling ND/TLoU2 threads
While I probably wont get one because I dislike the break in the console cycles and officially wait for the next generation to start what worries me is Micrsofts in relation to software. A few of their new franchises are dead in the water, and I am just wondering whats a new IP that could drive me to get one. Halo and Gears just doesnt do it for me anymore.
Will all their games look pretty sure, but I need some killer IP's
pretty sure that's not how it works lol
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
Seems powerful. Unfortunately, games like Nier, Nioh, Persona 5, and Horizon don't exist on XO, so it's hard to get excited. Also there's no evidence they'll start getting that type of game.
I also have a PC.
I also have a PC.
RichiRamjag
Member
You're on the cusp of looking as bad as those you're criticizing. People have differing and sometimes silly opinions. Doesn't have to be a major conspiracy.
DerZuhälter
Member
4k vs 4k checkerboard rendering is the 2018 sequel of 2014s 1080p vs 900p debate.
I can imagine that has to do with the fact that for a significant amount of people, they already have the capability to play xbox one in 4K. I mean, if you have a high-end PC, then the scorpio hardly offers something to be really excited about.
Lister
Banned
Some of you REALLY want to cut Mcicrosft games out of the PC for some reason...
wumster3000
Member
Dude, Gaf heavily leans Sony. No doubt about that. It's been said too many times. It's easy to see and read. Take this thread for instance.You must not have been around during the early PS3 days.
I dont get why people want this. That the games are coming on PC is great for overall gaming.
Obliterator
Member
Where in the hell are you getting a 10% increase.
4.2 TF GPU to 6 TF. 8GB RAM to 12GB RAM. Faster RAM speeds. Improved CPU
I mean, Scorpio is significantly more powerful than the Pro is. That's just the truth of the matter.
If it runs I an Xbox One at 900/1080p then it will able be 4K native on Scorpio. That's the whole point.
MeisterLeder
Banned
They have games coming. No need to start this shit again.
Keep waiting then I guess. Though you might be dead before this ever happens.