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NPD Sales Results For March 2017 [Up2: Year to date charts, platform specific charts]

James Sawyer Ford

James Sawyer Ford

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Nightengale said:
Sony's PS4 sales ratio highlight that US/UK are closer to 30% of their entire market.

If those 4 markets are 2/3rd of their entire market, they would never have sold >40 million PS4s.
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So, making some assumptions here:

Even assuming that US by itself (not including UK) is 30% of their market.

650K/.3 = 2.16 million units total. Assume a conservative 25% digital attach rate (which is fairly close to what major publishers report), and that number is now 2.7 million conservatively.

I don't know why people are trying to suggest that Sony is lying. The numbers add up. I also don't know how people are saying that the sales are disappointing. With digital, it likely sold 800+K NPD in the US on a single platform. Those are incredibly strong numbers - Sony's best debut for a new IP since TLOU, and not too far removed from what it managed to sell. That IP was a massive success for Sony.

Horizon is a big hit.
 
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LastMinuteHero

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Alex_Mexico said:
Horizon deserved way more than that but still happy they performed well within expectations. I mean it was beaten by fucking GTAV!

And who would've known Ghost Recon was this popular... I certainly didn't.
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2.6 million in two weeks is not within expectations, more like beyond expectations. And there is a world outside of america you know...
 
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Instro

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James Sawyer Ford said:
So, making some assumptions here:

Even assuming that US by itself (not including UK) is 30% of their market.

650K/.3 = 2.16 million units total. Assume a conservative 25% digital attach rate (which is fairly close to what major publishers report), and that number is now 2.7 million conservatively.

I don't know why people are trying to suggest that Sony is lying. The numbers add up. I also don't know how people are saying that the sales are disappointing. With digital, it likely sold 800+K NPD in the US on a single platform. Those are incredibly strong numbers, probably Sony's best debut for a new IP since TLOU.

Horizon is a big hit.
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650k for a month, but 2.6m was the number for 14 days WW. Not disagreeing though.
 
James Sawyer Ford

James Sawyer Ford

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Instro said:
650k for a month, but 2.6m was the number for 14 days WW. Not disagreeing though.
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Agreed, but my number was conservative since I estimated 30% for the US, when their financial data suggests that US + UK is more like 30%.

Given that UK sales are around 25% of US sales, that means that the US is probably closer to 22.5% of their global sales, which pushes the total monthly sell through number to roughly 3.6 million total, which makes sense.
 
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ChronotriggerJM

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Probably an aside, but what do we think Nintendo's digital footprint is? I wouldn't think it to be near Ps4/bone, but probably higher than previous years right?
 
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Elandyll

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Seems that March was great all around for HW and Software.
Also super glad to see Nier @ #9, very much deserved!


All this being said.. I don't get the "concern" for HZD at a likely be 900k+ sales (incl digital)... It's fantastic for an exclusive new IP. Can't wait for the DLC and the sequel...
 
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SolicitorPirate

Member
James Sawyer Ford said:
So, making some assumptions here:

Even assuming that US by itself (not including UK) is 30% of their market.

650K/.3 = 2.16 million units total. Assume a conservative 25% digital attach rate (which is fairly close to what major publishers report), and that number is now 2.7 million conservatively.

I don't know why people are trying to suggest that Sony is lying. The numbers add up. I also don't know how people are saying that the sales are disappointing. With digital, it likely sold 800+K NPD in the US on a single platform. Those are incredibly strong numbers - Sony's best debut for a new IP since TLOU, and not too far removed from what it managed to sell. That IP was a massive success for Sony.

Horizon is a big hit.
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People on GAF get weirdly emotionally invested in narratives they've built up in their head. It's the same reason people were insisting Splatoon would crater after it charted on NPD after only 3 days, or why people predictably jump out of the woodwork to argue against any survey that shows the large number of female gamers
 
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Inuhanyou

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ChronotriggerJM said:
Probably an aside, but what do we think Nintendo's digital footprint is? I wouldn't think it to be near Ps4/bone, but probably higher than previous years right?
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I am sad that there is a possibility of this. if the world made sense, literally zero people would be supporting Nintendo digitally period, until they get their account system sorted with basic features which doesn't mean you can lose everything if your console just happens to go.
 
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StrongBlackVine

Banned
Toni said:
PS4 wont be topped after August, period.

Its got Gran Turismo coming, then Spiderman, Red Dead Redemption 2, Star Wars, Destiny 2 and Call of Duty.

Literally nothing stops Sony this fall.
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It depends on the bundles. If they go cheap with Horizon it will be close. Go all out was with mass bundles for Destiny 2, Battlefront 2 and Gran Turismo Sport(in Europe) and they will dominate. If Red Dead 2 somehow makes 2017 and gets a bundle then it won't even be a contest.

LordOcidax said:
Post saved. This year is going to be fun.
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Give your prediction so we can save yours as well. :)

I don't think Spider-Man is making 2017 and RDR2 is questionable, but neither are really needed considering the other games mentioned.
 
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Dubz

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Wildlands knocking it out of the park doesn't surprise me. Kinda funny that the OT has such a small following here on GAF. The game is pretty fun solo, and a blast with friends.
 
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orochi91

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Nier: Automata and the KH HD collection seemed to have done well.

Dubz said:
Wild lands knocking it out of the park doesn't surprise me. Kinda funny that the OT has such a small following here on GAF. The game is pretty fun solo, and a blast with friends.
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Ubisoft games in general get a rather lukewarm reception here on GAF.
 
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StrongBlackVine

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KingV said:
Yeah, it's a bomba compared to RE6. I hope that means RE8 is back to the good stuff!
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RE7 was the good stuff. Just add a solid mercenaries mode to RE8 and build on RE7. Also I think this game will turn more profit then RE6 did...it was a bloated mess.

orochi91 said:
Ubisoft games in general get a rather lukewarm reception here on GAF.
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Ubisoft games get lukewarm reviews too, but they keep selling so whatever they are doing is working. It's like the fast food of console gaming.
 
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AquaWateria

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StrongBlackVine said:
It depends on the bundles. If they go cheap with Horizon it will be close. Go all out was with mass bundles for Destiny 2, Battlefront 2 and Gran Turismo Sport(in Europe) and they will dominate. If Red Dead 2 somehow makes 2017 and gets a bundle then it won't even be a contest.



Give your prediction so we can save yours as well. :)

I don't think Spider-Man is making 2017 and RDR2 is questionable, but neither are really needed considering the other games mentioned.
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If there's a proven system seller its Pokemon. If Switch has a Pokemon game this coming Holiday its not gonna be that easy for the PS4 to win.
 
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EhoaVash

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KingV said:
Yeah, it's a bomba compared to RE6. I hope that means RE8 is back to the good stuff!
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how are european sales? iirc sold like 300k in japan,

but yeah either going first person was a mistake or RE6 tarnished the brand so much, brand is damaged

but yeah with how bad re7 peformed + how the new monster hunter is underperforming, capcom is doomed
 
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StrongBlackVine

Banned
EhoaVash said:
how are european sales? iirc sold like 300k in japan,

but yeah either going first person was a mistake or RE6 tarnished the brand so much, brand is damaged

but yeah with how bad re7 peformed + how the new monster hunter is underperforming, capcom is doomed
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RE7 hasn't performed badly though.
 
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The God

Member
StrongBlackVine said:
RE7 was the good stuff. Just add a solid mercenaries mode to RE8 and build on RE7. Also I think this game will turn more profit then RE6 did...it was a bloated mess.



Ubisoft games get lukewarm reviews too, but they keep selling so whatever they are doing is working. It's like the fast food of console gaming.
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Damn, this is accurate
 
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NinjaCoachZ

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StrongBlackVine said:
True, but would they have another Pokemon game ready so fast? A port of a 3DS game won't cut it.
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The Pokemon models in the 3DS games are actually really high-poly. A third version of S/M on Switch isn't unthinkable if Game Freak have higher-quality versions of all the other assets to work with.
 
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elelunicy

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Spyder_Monkey said:
I'm surprised Ghost Recon is the topper. The game opened to mediocre reviews and nobody seems to be talking about it both on and outside my internet bubble. Same with For Honor for that matter. I guess a ton of people bought it and traded it in a week later.
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Lol.

Wildlands was also the top PSN download of the month (beating HZD). I guess people all got their refunds from Sony too.
 
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OrbitalBeard

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Toni said:
PS4 wont be topped after August, period.

Its got Gran Turismo coming, then Spiderman, Red Dead Redemption 2, Star Wars, Destiny 2 and Call of Duty.

Literally nothing stops Sony this fall.
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If Pokemon Stars is real and a version of Smash Bros. releases on Switch this fall, those two + Super Mario Odyssey are going to do big numbers and I could see a scenario where Switch takes a couple NPD wins in the fourth quarter. But it's far from a guarantee.

I think the one prediction I feel pretty safe making is that XB1 / Scorpio will not win a single month in 2017. Now that I've said this, I'm sure to be proven wrong lol
 
joecanada

joecanada

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Spyder_Monkey said:
I'm surprised Ghost Recon is the topper. The game opened to mediocre reviews and nobody seems to be talking about it both on and outside my internet bubble. Same with For Honor for that matter. I guess a ton of people bought it and traded it in a week later.
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I bought it on steam and play every week with friends... It's an Ubi game no doubt but coop shooters are pretty rare believe it or not . At least those designed for coop like this
 
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And_Gignac

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Toni said:
PS4 wont be topped after August, period.

Its got Gran Turismo coming, then Spiderman, Red Dead Redemption 2, Star Wars, Destiny 2 and Call of Duty.

Literally nothing stops Sony this fall.
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Nah. If Pokemon hits, Switch will easily out do the PS4 up to November. Maybe not during December.
 
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Japanmanx3

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Bomberman charted!!!!!
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Sho_Nuff82

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Gran Turismo has not been an NPD monster in over a decade. I do expect the PS4's popularity to help a bit, but I really doubt it's one of the holidays top sellers in the US.

StrongBlackVine said:
RE7 hasn't performed badly though.
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Did we ever get an update on that "4 million by end of March" projection they had?

Because that didn't happen.
 
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Griss

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OrbitalBeard said:
If Pokemon Stars is real and a version of Smash Bros. releases on Switch this fall, those two + Super Mario Odyssey are going to do big numbers and I could see a scenario where Switch takes a couple NPD wins in the fourth quarter. But it's far from a guarantee.

I think the one prediction I feel pretty safe making is that XB1 / Scorpio will not win a single month in 2017. Now that I've said this, I'm sure to be proven wrong lol
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I just find it hard to imagine that Nintendo would fire all of its big guns at once like that in one holiday. Pokemon, Smash AND Mario?

What could they possibly have for the first half of the next year? And at that point, their biggest franchises (Zelda, Mario Kart, Mario, Pokemon, Smash, Splatoon) would have already hit the console within 12 months... hard to follow that up in the next year. Where do they go from there?
Metroid? lol
Of course, I personally believe than Xenoblade 2 will be a March 2018 title (makes most sense imo) but if that stays in 2017 then it's even more crowded.

At least one of Pokemon or Smash is for 2018, that would be my prediction.
 
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And_Gignac

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Leona Lewis said:
I don't think even Pokemon can overcome all the $199 PS4 Slim bundles that are coming our way.
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Yeah that's why I am not certain about December. Or even November, if NPD takes into account the whole of Black Friday. But Switch, I think, can totally outdo the PS4 during the rest of the summer / autumn.
 
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OrbitalBeard

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Griss said:
I just find it hard to imagine that Nintendo would fire all of its big guns at once like that in one holiday. Pokemon, Smash AND Mario?

What could they possibly have for the first half of the next year? And at that point, their biggest franchises (Zelda, Mario Kart, Mario, Pokemon, Smash, Splatoon) would have already hit the console within 12 months... hard to follow that up in the next year. Where do they go from there?
Metroid? lol
Of course, I personally believe than Xenoblade 2 will be a March 2018 title (makes most sense imo) but if that stays in 2017 then it's even more crowded.

At least one of Pokemon or Smash is for 2018, that would be my prediction.
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Animal Crossing, 2D Mario, 2D Zelda, Fire Emblem, Super Mario Maker, new Retro title,
Metroid

You're probably right though. I could see Smash launching sometime next year.
 
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Rocketz

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I wonder what the budget for RE7 to RE6 was. I could be totally wrong but I assume 7 had a smaller budget but they did create a new engine for the game which probably wasn't cheap so maybe not.
 
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meirl

Banned
Toni said:
PS4 wont be topped after August, period.

Its got Gran Turismo coming, then Spiderman, Red Dead Redemption 2, Star Wars, Destiny 2 and Call of Duty.

Literally nothing stops Sony this fall.
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Lol 4 Out of those 6 are Multiplattform.
 
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