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Asia Nikkei: Switch flips the script for Nintendo

sinonobu

Banned
Even if the 4chan rumor is true it basically ended saying Monster Hunter Team was freaked out and rushing to get a MH for Switch because they expect the "Western Oriented Monster Hunter" to be garbage

As I said earlier in Capcom thread I can see Western studio making MH based on the Hollywood movie. (If the rumor is true) Most likely going to be mutli platform though. (Ps4/xbone/pc, maybe switch too?)
 

Hermii

Member
That first part is interesting- everyone reported that Nintendo thinks it'll beat the sales of the Wii, but in reality they're thinking less then 10 million. Time will tell, I suppose
Mistranslation/ misunderstanding of Nintendo executives #99999999999999999
 

psyfi

Banned
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When everything is stacked against him, he doesn't flinch.
he kills sales expectations and doesn't afraid of anything
 
I know, but they missed launch by like 2 and a half months.
Their only announced game is an overpriced SFIIHD port that they keep discounting to $2 on PSN.

4Chan isn't credible, but it seems like something Capcom would do. On 3DS they had two Resident Evil games announced and launched the system with SFIV. Even on Wii U they launched with MH3U. You support the platform that will be home to one of your biggest franchise, USFII is not support.

Sorry if I sound like Nexeon where I keep bringing it up. Just a hunch

USF2 is kind of crappy support, I agree. But it could end up being one of the most profitable project they've had for a long time. I don't know if it would be good or bad news though
 

sinonobu

Banned
USF2 is kind of crappy support, I agree. But it could end up being one of the most profitable project they've had for a long time. I don't know if it would be good or bad news though

I have a feeling that It might be Nintendo that pitched the idea of USF2 to Capcom just like Super Bomberman R.
 

Passose

Banned
USF2 is kind of crappy support, I agree. But it could end up being one of the most profitable project they've had for a long time. I don't know if it would be good or bad news though
maybe with long term supports along with dlcs, USF2 could end up being a success like Bomberman R, who knows
 
I know, but they missed launch by like 2 and a half months.
Their only announced game is an overpriced SFIIHD port that they keep discounting to $2 on PSN.

4Chan isn't credible, but it seems like something Capcom would do. On 3DS they had two Resident Evil games announced and launched the system with SFIV. Even on Wii U they launched with MH3U. You support the platform that will be home to one of your biggest franchise, USFII is not support.

Sorry if I sound like Nexeon where I keep bringing it up. Just a hunch
Remember it took a long time for Capcom to release games on the PS4. The PS4 didn't have any capcom support in its first year. I don't think Nintendo adding more RAM per Capcom'a request was for nothing. Also they are trying to port the RE7 engine to Switch.
 

Vena

Member
Why is that 4chan rumor credible anyways?

I thought 4chan was mostly wrong with game rumors.

(Just out of curiosity)

It leaked the MHXX name many hours before MHXX was revealed, and it wasn't just the abbreviation it was the name specifically. There's no way you just randomly guess that stupid fucking naming convention.

There's a reason its humored and constantly brought up.
 
Remember it took a long time for Capcom to release games on the PS4. The PS4 didn't have any capcom support in its first year. I don't think Nintendo adding more RAM per Capcom'a request was for nothing. Also they are trying to port the RE7 engine to Switch.
Capcom didnt have anything to show that early in the generation. They were still at the reveal showcasing their panty raid tech and that game that's never coming out
 

Nairume

Banned
I have a feeling that It might be Nintendo that pitched the idea of USF2 to Capcom just like Super Bomberman R.
Another possibility is that, given they mentioned porting over MT Framework with it, it might also be a case of them getting dev kits late enough that it was the easiest project they could pitch that would let them get the engine up and running on the switch and have a recognizable game out to go for it.
 

sinonobu

Banned
It leaked the MHXX name many hours before MHXX was revealed, and it wasn't just the abbreviation it was the name specifically. There's no way you just randomly guess that stupid fucking naming convention.

There's a reason its humored and constantly brought up.

Now that's interesting...

But I'm still doubtful. The name is not that hard to guess or the name could of leaked japanese forums first and the leaker simply used that.
 

Vena

Member
Now that's interesting...

But I'm still doubtful. The name is not that hard to guess or the name could of leaked japanese forums first and the leaker simply used that.

They got the name as its read not just XX, so that's a detail well beyond just guessing an XX. And if there was a leak on another forum, it'd have come out frankly and it never did. This random post on 4chan was pretty much it and many hours before the Japanese Direct aired.
 
J

Jpop

Unconfirmed Member
It leaked the MHXX name many hours before MHXX was revealed, and it wasn't just the abbreviation it was the name specifically. There's no way you just randomly guess that stupid fucking naming convention.

There's a reason its humored and constantly brought up.

So the exact same 4chan user leaked MHXX?

If it wasn't we might as well attribute all GAF users as credible "insiders".
 

Passose

Banned
It would definitely help in Japan.

Also, there's only one e in Neoxon.
I mean, with tons of gangbuster games like Pokemon, splatoon, mario and dragon quest, monster hunter is just a small part within them, sure it will the console move a some units but that's it
 

Principate

Saint Titanfall
It leaked the MHXX name many hours before MHXX was revealed, and it wasn't just the abbreviation it was the name specifically. There's no way you just randomly guess that stupid fucking naming convention.

There's a reason its humored and constantly brought up.
Yeah but as with how 4chan goes do we even know it's the same guy.

There was a similar MH vita rumour for years. Like litterally the exact same thing..
 

18-Volt

Member
Yep, just as I suspected. Nintendo is really pissed off about third parties delaying their projects and even some of them not supporting the system at all. Looks like Nintendo has to cover their absence again this fall by spamming low quality filler stuff. Mario Sports Mix 2, anyone?

But seriously, if this shit keep up, it'll going to hurt Nintendo big time. They need to force third party to be there. Buy someone out, Nintendo. Capcom, Take Two, Sega, doesn't matter, buy some studios. Make the quality stuff exclusive to your system, not garbage filler shit.
 

Passose

Banned
Yep, just as I suspected. Nintendo is really pissed off about third parties delaying their projects and even some of them not supporting the system at all. Looks like Nintendo has to cover their absence again this fall by spamming low quality filler stuff. Mario Sports Mix 2, anyone?

But seriously, if this shit keep up, it'll going to hurt Nintendo big time. They need to force third party to be there. Buy someone out, Nintendo. Capcom, Take Two, Sega, doesn't matter, buy some studios. Make the quality stuff exclusive to your system, not garbage filler shit.
I think this year line up is pretty ok, however third parties need to publish their games to the system in 2018
 

HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
I think this year line up is pretty ok, however third parties need to publish their games to the system in 2018

I'm waiting till next year to see if I want a switch and part of that is waiting to see what third parties do. I don't need everyone to make games for the Switch but it'd be nice to see a company other than Ubisoft do so.
 
Waiting for the big third party games.

"early as possible" lol. They are already late.

Capcom better hurry if they want to make money.
 

gogogow

Member
Yep, just as I suspected. Nintendo is really pissed off about third parties delaying their projects and even some of them not supporting the system at all. Looks like Nintendo has to cover their absence again this fall by spamming low quality filler stuff. Mario Sports Mix 2, anyone?

But seriously, if this shit keep up, it'll going to hurt Nintendo big time. They need to force third party to be there. Buy someone out, Nintendo. Capcom, Take Two, Sega, doesn't matter, buy some studios. Make the quality stuff exclusive to your system, not garbage filler shit.

I don't think Nintendo needs to buyout studios. If third parties aren't willing to release games, make them yourselves! What Nintendo are lacking are western centric titles, like fps, sport titles etc. I've said this in the past. Invest some money in the West. Now they only have NST? They are only making small games. Add a full fledged software house to NoA. Have separate teams, like Nintendo Japan. Don't let them just be a marketing and localisation team.
 

18-Volt

Member
I don't think Nintendo needs to buyout studios. If third parties aren't willing to release games, make them yourselves! What Nintendo are lacking are western centric titles, like fps, sport titles etc. I've said this in the past. Invest some money in the West. Now they only have NST? They are only making small games. Add a full fledged software house to NoA. Have separate teams, like Nintendo Japan. Don't let them just be a marketing and localisation team.

Creating a brand new studio to develop high budget titles could take really long time. They'd have to hire fresh inexperienced talent which would affect final software quality. My opinion is that they should be better off acquiring already proven studios. Not just one, they need to buy a whole publisher to acquire bulk of studios. There are many options that Nintendo could afford but my personal wish would be buying Warner Bros off WB. They have some of the most talented studios that Nintendo could make good use of. Netherrealm could assist Smash development, Traveler's Tales could create brand new 3D platforming IP's for Switch and a Rocksteady made Metroid game totally is a wet dream.
 

Principate

Saint Titanfall
Creating a brand new studio to develop high budget titles could take really long time. They'd have to hire fresh inexperienced talent which would affect final software quality. My opinion is that they should be better off acquiring already proven studios. Not just one, they need to buy a whole publisher to acquire bulk of studios. There are many options that Nintendo could afford but my personal wish would be buying Warner Bros off WB. They have some of the most talented studios that Nintendo could make good use of. Netherrealm could assist Smash development, Traveler's Tales could create brand new 3D platforming IP's for Switch and a Rocksteady made Metroid game totally is a wet dream.

There's a reason why Nintendo stopped doing that. the talent bleeds upon acquisition.
 

gogogow

Member
Creating a brand new studio to develop high budget titles could take really long time. They'd have to hire fresh inexperienced talent which would affect final software quality. My opinion is that they should be better off acquiring already proven studios. Not just one, they need to buy a whole publisher to acquire bulk of studios. There are many options that Nintendo could afford but my personal wish would be buying Warner Bros off WB. They have some of the most talented studios that Nintendo could make good use of. Netherrealm could assist Smash development, Traveler's Tales could create brand new 3D platforming IP's for Switch and a Rocksteady made Metroid game totally is a wet dream.

Of course it takes a long time to create talented studios. I'm not saying Nintendo needs do it now. Well, even if they start now, we won't see anything from it for 4-5 years at least. But I meant years ago. I just wondered why Nintendo never started their own Western development studios. And it's something I think they should've done.
 

Fliesen

Member
Ubisoft have been pretty quiet about Steep for Switch since the announcement, haven't they. I wonder if it's still happening.

Pretty much any of their other big games seems like it would be a better choice. Wildlands or nuAssassin's Creed, certainly.

How so? Especially Wildlands - how's a 4-player coop military shooter a better choice on the Switch than a chill, open world sports game.
I'd buy Steep on the Switch in a heartbeat, if the port's good.
 
Problem with capcom is they dont put out many family games on consoles anymore, will be hard for them to traditionally support a Nintendo console.
Plus comes the issue with money hatting, Capcom exclusives and paid ports (Revelations 2 for vita)

See how Namco-Bandai only put kids games on WiiU (outside of that shit f2p game, that nintendo most likely partly funded and Nintendo stopped promoting on launch as it was horrid like devils third)
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
I mean, with tons of gangbuster games like Pokemon, splatoon, mario and dragon quest, monster hunter is just a small part within them, sure it will the console move a some units but that's it
Capcom sold like +15m MH games on 3DS - that's a lot of money for Capcom and Nintendo. MH is one of the few big IPs that justify consoles even existing for mainstream gamers next to Smartphones.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
Problem with capcom is they dont put out many family games on consoles anymore, will be hard for them to traditionally support a Nintendo console.
Plus comes the issue with money hatting, Capcom exclusives and paid ports (Revelations 2 for vita)

See how Namco-Bandai only put kids games on WiiU (outside of that shit f2p game, that nintendo most likely partly funded and Nintendo stopped promoting on launch as it was horrid like devils third)
No one expects or wants Capcom to out family games on Switch... Don't even know what you are getting at with the family games angle lol.
 

Principate

Saint Titanfall
Problem with capcom is they dont put out many family games on consoles anymore, will be hard for them to traditionally support a Nintendo console.
Plus comes the issue with money hatting, Capcom exclusives and paid ports (Revelations 2 for vita)

See how Namco-Bandai only put kids games on WiiU (outside of that shit f2p game, that nintendo most likely partly funded and Nintendo stopped promoting on launch as it was horrid like devils third)

Capcom's primary audience on the 3DS was teen's to young adult's. Every time they tried to establish a Franchise for Children/families it failed. Their fanbase on Nintendo systems is not family orientated and frankly it appears to be the biggest fanbase Capcom even has judging by how literally everything else they've released has performed.
 

18-Volt

Member
There's a reason why Nintendo stopped doing that. the talent bleeds upon acquisition.

Nintendo have never actually done that. Only studio they had purchased was Rare and that was not a total 100% purchase. And yes, there was an infamous talent exodus at Rare but reason for that was bad management at Kyoto office. I'm pretty sure Kimishima management isn't as dumb as their N64 era predecessors.
 

Heyt

Banned
Not even on the Wii Capcom released family-like games that I can recall. The closest was Spyborgs and that was an action adventure.
 

Principate

Saint Titanfall
Nintendo have never actually done that. Only studio they had purchased was Rare and that was not a total 100% purchase. And yes, there was an infamous talent exodus at Rare but reason for that was bad management at Kyoto office. I'm pretty sure Kimishima management isn't as dumb as their N64 era predecessors.

They purchased Monolith soft and Retro etc.
 
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