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Pineapple Pizza Mafia |OT| The War On Fruit Pizza

Also, the only reason I'm not voting Palmer is because I've done stupider shit as vanilla town, so I believe he can have just made a bad or misled call. Swamped seems like a safer bet.
 
I disagree with your post. All of it.

I said this to someone else, but it applies here too: saying something doesn't make it true. How've you been active in favor of town?

I think I'll leave my vote where it is for now.

Another misunderstanding it seems i didnt know it was role madness till Sophia's post Here

Then which of Palmer's thoughts were you talking about in the post I linked before? ELI5

How do we know that? We've been told role madness but what does that really mean in this case though? Sophia said it was on the milder scale of role madness.

bolded for emphasis. That is a wrench we need to remember.
 
the way gafias been going recently, guessing wrong is the biggest townie indicator we have.

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4 of these are people who voted you on D1. You think the scum team would have all piled on you? If so, why? Why not just NK you if they thought you were a threat?

This is an interesting catch.

Yo, Lifeline - so yesterday you were pushing Swamped. Now Swamped has votes but you say Dragonz will be easier. Why, man? Why?
 

Palmer_v1

Member
I think that's a matter of perspective. They were at least coerced; you were not. Following my same train of logic, claiming vanilla when you're not being pushed in any way is an anti-town act. I'd like to discuss why you thought it was a good idea. Even if you really were town, don't you think that was an extremely selfish move?

Looking back at your reasoning, it comes down to a high estimation of your own abilities and "fuck it".

I claimed based on the game I thought I was in for all of the reasons I stated D1, including ego. I'm an open fucking book. I value my contributions to town higher than I value the contributions of the average town power role in the hands of the average gafia player. If you really want to cement my opinion of town gafias garbage status, please do lynch me so I can escape this hell.

The issue is that this might not be what I consider role madness if there really are multiple vanilla townies. If so, I have no one to blame but myself for assuming that role madness meant role madness instead of just a game with more power roles than normal.

The other option is that I'm right and wamd and BB are lying. I'm at a point where I think BB is, but I don't think wamd is.
 

Palmer_v1

Member
Seriously, like 2/3 of this game might as well not be playing right now. It's just the same 5 or 6 of us arguing amongst each other with the occasional outside shit post.
 

Lifeline

Member
Palmer and BB's responses to the whole vanilla situation are the boldest and weirdest, so i find it hard believing either have a mafia team behind them. Dragonz has been the most tame. i would also point out that apart from me, there's no one defending BB while Dragonz and Palmer both have cheerleaders.


Seriously guys, what did we talk about D1 in regards to coasting players? Did everyone fucking forget?

It's difficult to tell who's actually coasting and who's just busy with personal lives.


Yo, Lifeline - so yesterday you were pushing Swamped. Now Swamped has votes but you say Dragonz will be easier. Why, man? Why?

I've already said this multiple times to the point someone got pissed at me repeating myself. I'll vote for either person, whoever is closer at days end. Just assume my votes is on both.
 

Lifeline

Member
Seriously, like 2/3 of this game might as well not be playing right now. It's just the same 5 or 6 of us arguing amongst each other with the occasional outside shit post.

This game was at it's most active when everyone was shitposting. If you want to solve this activity problem, the answer is simple. We shitpost.

YZPMqUl.gif


All the shitposts will bring the coasters in like flies to, well, shit. And once we have them here, laughing and posting about pineapples and other fruit delicacy. We start asking the hard questions and trap them in this thread.

Here, i'll start:

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Palmer and BB's responses to the whole vanilla situation are the boldest and weirdest, so i find it hard believing either have a mafia team behind them. Dragonz has been the most tame. i would also point out that apart from me, there's no one defending BB while Dragonz and Palmer both have cheerleaders.


It's difficult to tell who's actually coasting and who's just busy with personal lives.

I've already said this multiple times to the point someone got pissed at me repeating myself. I'll vote for either person, whoever is closer at days end. Just assume my votes is on both.

1. BB doesn't have any defenders because BB is too interested in just saying I'M DUMB! instead of anything else or any scum hunting beyond flavor-picking and deflecting. And I don't think BB is dumb so I don't buy that defense line. Sure, people screw up sometimes, but.

2. Does it matter who's busy with personal lives vs who's coasting if they're not actually present and playing the game? I will say it's not yet 24 hours into first phase of d2, but it's not like no one knows what they're signing up for. If that sounds harsh, I'm sorry. But I think this is part of how town ends up picking off town and scum exploits it. If you're gonna play, play.

3. No, you've said multiple times you wanna bandwagon. Well, there's a good start on Swamped but you're over there on Dragonz. It just doesn't make sense, dude. I swear, if it wasn't for the red text town bit I'd find you super shady.
 

Lifeline

Member
I mean, if it makes you happy:

VOTE: Swamped

But like i said, just assume my vote is on whoever is leading in votes.

I also went ahead and got some fresh bait for ya'll:

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I claimed based on the game I thought I was in for all of the reasons I stated D1, including ego. I'm an open fucking book. I value my contributions to town higher than I value the contributions of the average town power role in the hands of the average gafia player. If you really want to cement my opinion of town gafias garbage status, please do lynch me so I can escape this hell.

The issue is that this might not be what I consider role madness if there really are multiple vanilla townies. If so, I have no one to blame but myself for assuming that role madness meant role madness instead of just a game with more power roles than normal.

The other option is that I'm right and wamd and BB are lying. I'm at a point where I think BB is, but I don't think wamd is.

Like I said, I believe it's possible you doubled down on a misled gambit, I don't know how likely it is. If you're town, stick with the game. I get it's frustrating when people single you out and you know you're in the right, but that's how this game plays out.

Don't trigger me with this "fine just lynch me already!" I've lost too many to this line of logic.

 

Swamped

Banned
Seriously guys, what did we talk about D1 in regards to coasting players? Did everyone fucking forget?

Fine. Coasters. I see these people as coasting:

Stan
Isaac
30years
Oreo - I keep forgetting he's even in this game
Burb - seems inactive though
Acorhs - same

Honestly I'd be happy voting for any of those, but maybe give Burb and Achors a pass for today in case they get replaced. I don't see any super town behavior from these toasters
 
Fine. Coasters. I see these people as coasting:

Stan
Isaac
30years
Oreo - I keep forgetting he's even in this game
Burb - seems inactive though
Acorhs - same

Honestly I'd be happy voting for any of those, but maybe give Burb and Achors a pass for today in case they get replaced. I don't see any super town behavior from these toasters

Has there ever been an entire scum team that's just coasted? In every game I've been in, I usually only see one. The rest of the scum are usually very active and "helpful".
 

Natiko

Banned
After discussing it with the game runner I have decided to continue playing. This is primarily due to the fact that anyone coming into the game in my spot isn't going to have an enjoyable time. Instead I'll just do what is probably best for everyone.

I am Guy Who Likes Ham Pizza (But Not Pineapple!) and I am a Town Miller. For those that don't know this means I will return a scum check if investigated.

I'm claiming to avoid any possibility of living to tomorrow and having a PR waste a check on me and then outting themselves over it. I obviously realize I'm under scrutiny so everyone will be skeptical and I'm going to get lynched. Getting lynched today is better than causing a PR claim plus it's abundantly clear certain people think I don't know how to play mafia so may as well give them some more reasons to yell about how scummy I am so they can realize how wrong they are later.
 
After discussing it with the game runner I have decided to continue playing. This is primarily due to the fact that anyone coming into the game in my spot isn't going to have an enjoyable time. Instead I'll just do what is probably best for everyone.

I am Guy Who Likes Ham Pizza (But Not Pineapple!) and I am a Town Miller. For those that don't know this means I will return a scum check if investigated.

I'm claiming to avoid any possibility of living to tomorrow and having a PR waste a check on me and then outting themselves over it. I obviously realize I'm under scrutiny so everyone will be skeptical and I'm going to get lynched. Getting lynched today is better than causing a PR claim plus it's abundantly clear certain people think I don't know how to play mafia so may as well give them some more reasons to yell about how scummy I am so they can realize how wrong they are later.

I believe you, but I'm not 100% that first sentence is in the spirit of the game... but ok. In my head, you're cleared for now.

Miller is a tough position to be put into. Is there any reason you didn't claim right away?
 

Palmer_v1

Member
After discussing it with the game runner I have decided to continue playing. This is primarily due to the fact that anyone coming into the game in my spot isn't going to have an enjoyable time. Instead I'll just do what is probably best for everyone.

I am Guy Who Likes Ham Pizza (But Not Pineapple!) and I am a Town Miller. For those that don't know this means I will return a scum check if investigated.

I'm claiming to avoid any possibility of living to tomorrow and having a PR waste a check on me and then outting themselves over it. I obviously realize I'm under scrutiny so everyone will be skeptical and I'm going to get lynched. Getting lynched today is better than causing a PR claim plus it's abundantly clear certain people think I don't know how to play mafia so may as well give them some more reasons to yell about how scummy I am so they can realize how wrong they are later.

So either natiko is lying or this is DEFINITELY a bastard game. Fun. You should have claimed immediately. It's harmful to town to do anything less.
 

Lifeline

Member
After discussing it with the game runner I have decided to continue playing. This is primarily due to the fact that anyone coming into the game in my spot isn't going to have an enjoyable time. Instead I'll just do what is probably best for everyone.

I am Guy Who Likes Ham Pizza (But Not Pineapple!) and I am a Town Miller. For those that don't know this means I will return a scum check if investigated.

I'm claiming to avoid any possibility of living to tomorrow and having a PR waste a check on me and then outting themselves over it. I obviously realize I'm under scrutiny so everyone will be skeptical and I'm going to get lynched. Getting lynched today is better than causing a PR claim plus it's abundantly clear certain people think I don't know how to play mafia so may as well give them some more reasons to yell about how scummy I am so they can realize how wrong they are later.

Since you're in full IDGAF
ia
mode. Can you help a guy out and join the glorious Swamped bandwagon? We have lots of treats including delicious pineapple pizza on our wagon.
 

Palmer_v1

Member
I'm taking Natiko off my list for now. Just please scum hunt more today, even if it's against me. You're one of the semi-active players and town needs help desperately.
 
Null, honestly. I haven't seen anyone post a read of all of her posts and I don't have time to do it. I'm fairly disincentivized to vote anyone active today.

Is the issues with her based purely on her end of day voting?

Mostly. I've also been pondering over her justification..

Honest to God I thought there was a tie between BB and Dragonz. I did not want the end to end fruitlessly, which is why I had to change my vote to Dragonz as I was on BB before. I did not have the vote count in front of me and there were only a few minutes left. I did not even read the claims that Dragonz and BB made. I didn't even see Natiko's vote. I was extremely frustrated with how that ended.

Then there's this about 4 minutes before deadline.

Thanks. So it's between BB and 30. Really not fond of either lynch tbh. I guess acohrs isn't happening.

That is just wildly inconsistent, I think. She's pondering over BB and 30, she claims she doesn't know what the vote count is, but jumps on WAMD at the last second. Bizarre.
 
Can I also point out the immediate logical inconsistencies in blarg's posts? He seems to be voting me because it's harmful for ordinary townies to claim.

So he's voting for someone he thinks is town by that logic.


Second, why is he dodging wamd and BB? Their claims were far more suspicious based on the timing.

unvote me then
 
Explain me how this could mean a bastard game? ELI5 plz because I am v confused right now.

Millers are a generally frowned upon role, and there are implications about what other roles exist in the game. There is probably at least one alignment cop, and then maybe something else the miller can screw around with.
 

Natiko

Banned
I believe you, but I'm not 100% that first sentence is in the spirit of the game... but ok. In my head, you're cleared for now.

Miller is a tough position to be put into. Is there any reason you didn't claim right away?
We did not discuss anything regarding my role or the game state. We only discussed if I would keep playing if I took a bit to cool down. I didn't claim because it would've just dominated the discussion D1 and I generally get NKed early. The moment I claim miller I figure I'll get lynched instead of absorbing a NK.

So either natiko is lying or this is DEFINITELY a bastard game. Fun. You should have claimed immediately. It's harmful to town to do anything less.
You're one to talk about being harmful to town. Let's just point out your points against blarg here:

Can I also point out the immediate logical inconsistencies in blarg's posts? He seems to be voting me because it's harmful for ordinary townies to claim.

So he's voting for someone he thinks is town by that logic.


Second, why is he dodging wamd and BB? Their claims were far more suspicious based on the timing.

Yet one post before that in regards to scum reading everybody that voted for you:
I've said that I'm probably wrong about some of them, but it's no great loss based on how they're playing anyway. Launchpad is the only person who is accusing me that is at least trying to play the game.

Seriously guys, what did we talk about D1 in regards to coasting players? Did everyone fucking forget?
You know full well it's very unlikely even a majority of those voting for you are scum but you still don't mind. You seem more than happy to criticize others while making exceptions for yourself. I mean hell I'm vanilla in every situation except being investigated. You claimed vanilla because you think your scum hunting skills are more valuable than anyone else's. Following that same logic since you think mine are horrible you should be happy I was trying to eat a NK since it's no big loss.
 

Lifeline

Member
Can we stop arguing about who the worst town is? Everybody knows I'm the best town. The best. My best friend is scum and he's always, you know he's always saying what a great town i am. He's knows i'm the best town, but nobody calls him. If you call him and ask, he'll tell you: i'm the best town. Bigly.
 

Sophia

Member
Day 2 votes

blackbuzzard (1)
dr. worm 640
skyodin 708 (791)

swamped (3)
launchpadmcq 650
lifeline 657 (748)
isaacnukem 851 (855)
isaacnukem 855
lifeline 911

dr. worm (0)
palmer_v1 659 (778)

burbeting (1)
darryl 697

wherearemahdragonz (0)
lifeline 748 (911)

blargonaut (1)
palmer_v1 778

palmer_v1 (1)
blargonaut 849

isaacnukem (0)
hey_monkey 858 (910)

oreomunsta (1)
blackbuzzard 872

iaaacnukem (1)
wherearemahdragonz 885

acohrs (1)
hey_monkey 910

Majority is 10

Day 2 ends in:

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Can we stop arguing about who the worst town is? Everybody knows I'm the best town. The best. My best friend is scum and he's always, you know he's always saying what a great town i am. He's knows i'm the best town, but nobody calls him. If you call him and ask, he'll tell you: i'm the best town. Bigly.

I'm not saying it's worst town. People who are generally inactive are the worst town. The question about Palmer is whether it was a bad town move or a scum move.
 
Then let's find the scum.

Here's Swamped's list of coasters:

Fine. Coasters. I see these people as coasting:

Stan
Isaac
30years
Oreo - I keep forgetting he's even in this game
Burb - seems inactive though
Acorhs - same

Honestly I'd be happy voting for any of those, but maybe give Burb and Achors a pass for today in case they get replaced. I don't see any super town behavior from these toasters

Yesterday I made a list of five people I'd take out if I could, on request, but at this point, I'd swap Natiko out for Darryl, so it looks like this:

acohrs
BlackBuzzard
Blargonaut
isaacnukem
Darryl

I have things to say about some of the inactives but it's frowned upon so whatever. But this gives us a list of the following unique players to look at in terms of activity/coasting:

isaacnukem
acohrs
30years
oreomunsta
Burbeting
Stan

And the ones from my list that I suspected for overlapping reasons:
Blargonaut
BlackBuzzard
Darryl

If we're talking bastard, I don't know that I trust Lifeline. All that would convince me is that Lifeline was the same in Arkham.

Swamped feels more legit to me than in anime but that's really all I can do to read her here. I'm inclined at this point to believe Dragonz. I want to believe in Sawneeks because she busted ass to get things moving d1 but let's all remember that my first game was with CABOT the BETRAYER. I believe Palmer is likely town but Palmer's grand pronouncements cannot always be trusted. Confidence is good. But sometimes we're wrong. Sky is town.

I am iffy at this time on Dr. Worm so I can't make a firm, confident read. LaunchPad seems okay but is sticking to Swamped over anything else and I'm not sure about that.

This is what I have to offer right now.
 

Palmer_v1

Member
Mostly. I've also been pondering over her justification..



Then there's this about 4 minutes before deadline.



That is just wildly inconsistent, I think. She's pondering over BB and 30, she claims she doesn't know what the vote count is, but jumps on WAMD at the last second. Bizarre.

Alright, this is based on the final 20 minutes, starting with this vote count from Crimsonfist http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=237424143&postcount=564

I'm adding votes onto us that came within those 20 minutes:

palmer_v1
-blargonaut
-isaacnukem
-stanleypalmtree
-Natiko (1 minute until deadline)

wherearemahdragonz
-lifeline
-sawneeks (6 minutes until deadline)
-30yearsofhurt (2 minutes until deadline)
-Swamped (1 minute until deadline)

Swamped and 30 also voted together against achors fyi.

blackbuzzard
-dr. worm
-hey_monkey
-SexyFish (12 minutes until deadline)
-Swamped (3 minutes until deadline) (Removed 1 minute before deadline)

First, Natiko is the one that caused a tie)Palmer vs BB), and it seems perfectly plausible that Swamped wasn't aware of that when she switched to to WAMD (Palmer vs WAMD). I draw no real conclusion here, but it makes me wonder if Natiko was protecting BB when they voted me. I'm inclined to believe it was a mistake, but if BB flips scum, this is something that should be reexamined.

3 new votes on WAMD in 6 minutes seems pretty sketchy, but it also makes little sense for scum. If they were protecting BB, they could have gone after me more easily, right? and vice versa if they were protecting me. Actually, on further reading, Swamped did specifically say she didn't want me lynched, so she couldn't flip to me without it still looking very suspicious.(http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=237425145&postcount=581)

Why Sawneeks though? Just reading this section, her only reason for a sudden WAMD vote is because WAMD had a vote on her that she found suspicious.

Aside from that, I'm taking Dr. Worm off my scum list for now.
 

Sawneeks

Banned
Has there ever been an entire scum team that's just coasted? In every game I've been in, I usually only see one. The rest of the scum are usually very active and "helpful".

The past few games ( i.e. like the past 2 Seasons ) has had Scum dominating by mostly coasting through their games save like 1 or 2 members. Town lately has only gone after the active posters and are usually letting the coasters/inactives fall to the side as they destroy themselves and Scum have found they can hide there with little issue. It's likely why a few people have such a strong 'let's focus/lynch inactives' because ignoring that is what has been helping Town lose games.

After discussing it with the game runner I have decided to continue playing. This is primarily due to the fact that anyone coming into the game in my spot isn't going to have an enjoyable time. Instead I'll just do what is probably best for everyone.

I am Guy Who Likes Ham Pizza (But Not Pineapple!) and I am a Town Miller. For those that don't know this means I will return a scum check if investigated.

I'm claiming to avoid any possibility of living to tomorrow and having a PR waste a check on me and then outting themselves over it. I obviously realize I'm under scrutiny so everyone will be skeptical and I'm going to get lynched. Getting lynched today is better than causing a PR claim plus it's abundantly clear certain people think I don't know how to play mafia so may as well give them some more reasons to yell about how scummy I am so they can realize how wrong they are later.

It's convenient but for the record I don't see a ton of issue with it. :x

I touched on Swamped being scummy here;
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=237412179

I know you're confirmed Town but your logic doesn't make any sense.

So you feel Swamped is Scum only because of interactions with Darryl/Dragonz but seeing as we don't know the alignment of the latter Players why are you still voting for Swamped? By your own logic and read shouldn't you be focusing on those two instead of bandwagoning onto Swamped just because everyone else is doing it?
 
So you feel Swamped is Scum only because of interactions with Darryl/Dragonz but seeing as we don't know the alignment of the latter Players why are you still voting for Swamped? By your own logic and read shouldn't you be focusing on those two instead of bandwagoning onto Swamped just because everyone else is doing it?

And because he is so convinced, he's not looking anywhere else. Just asking people to join his vote.
 

Palmer_v1

Member
Explain me how this could mean a bastard game? ELI5 plz because I am v confused right now.

Millers are a generally frowned upon role, and there are implications about what other roles exist in the game. There is probably at least one alignment cop, and then maybe something else the miller can screw around with.

This more or less. If this is confirmed bastard we can't really trust everything from PRs any more.

You're one to talk about being harmful to town. Let's just point out your points against blarg here:



Yet one post before that in regards to scum reading everybody that voted for you:

You know full well it's very unlikely even a majority of those voting for you are scum but you still don't mind. You seem more than happy to criticize others while making exceptions for yourself. I mean hell I'm vanilla in every situation except being investigated. You claimed vanilla because you think your scum hunting skills are more valuable than anyone else's. Following that same logic since you think mine are horrible you should be happy I was trying to eat a NK since it's no big loss.

TOWN IS NEVER 100% RIGHT ABOUT SCUM. TOWN WILL MISLYNCH. FREQUENTLY. There is a vast difference between my vote and blarg's vote.

One is saying this guy is town, but he made a claim that i don't like, so I'm going to vote him anyway.

The other is saying this guy is probably scum, and i acknowledge that I have no concrete proof, but I'm willing to take that risk, because even if they're town, they're fairly useless so far.
 
I said this to someone else, but it applies here too: saying something doesn't make it true. How've you been active in favor of town?

I think I'll leave my vote where it is for now.



Then which of Palmer's thoughts were you talking about in the post I linked before? ELI5



bolded for emphasis. That is a wrench we need to remember.

Explain me how this could mean a bastard game? ELI5 plz because I am v confused right now.

Nobody wanna bring up that Monkey developed a nervous tick? Im not gonna say it cause it might be something you can trigger.

To answer you monkey it was in response to his role claim the logic seemed solid. Yes that's backwards cause Sophia said it was role madness before Palmers claim. i skimmed the thread before i saw Sophia's post and then posted that response.
 

Lifeline

Member
Why would i vote for Dragonz when there's no votes on her, I would rather vote for another scum read that already has votes on them. Besides, i've already said multiple times i'll join whichever has the most votes.

What happened to all the people that almost lynched Dragonz last day? What has she said that made you change your mind, because i saw nothing convincing coming from her.

Also why do the same people keep coming in to defend Dragonz and Sawmped.
 

Lifeline

Member
Swamped and 30 also voted together against achors fyi.

You're starting to see Palmer, you're starting to see the truth.

3 new votes on WAMD in 6 minutes seems pretty sketchy, but it also makes little sense for scum.

Seems less sketchy when you consider Sawneeks was thinking about voting Dragonz for a while and when i mentioned her as my scum pick, Sawneeks started digging back into Dragonz.

30years had his vote on Dragonz even before I started the bandwagon, but removed it and then added it again after she claimed to be second vanilla.

Swamped's switch is the most suspicious.

Dr. Worm and Hey_monkey's vote on BB is more sketchy tbh,
 

Palmer_v1

Member
You're starting to see Palmer, you're starting to see the truth.



Seems less sketchy when you consider Sawneeks was thinking about voting Dragonz for a while and when i mentioned her as my scum pick, Sawneeks started digging back into Dragonz.

30years had his vote on Dragonz even before I started the bandwagon, but removed it and then added it again after she claimed to be second vanilla.

Swamped's switch is the most suspicious.

Dr. Worm and Hey_monkey's vote on BB is more sketchy tbh,

What exactly was swamped trying to achieve if she was scum yesterday?
 

Swamped

Banned
So you feel Swamped is Scum only because of interactions with Darryl/Dragonz but seeing as we don't know the alignment of the latter Players why are you still voting for Swamped? By your own logic and read shouldn't you be focusing on those two instead of bandwagoning onto Swamped just because everyone else is doing it?

It's ok Saw...once a townie tunnels nothing can stop them. Everything that player does is constructed as a scum tell.

Nobody wanna bring up that Monkey developed a nervous tick? Im not gonna say it cause it might be something you can trigger.

What nervous tick? ELI5 ;)

Actually, I see this as a lazy attempt to throw shade...
 
This game was at it's most active when everyone was shitposting. If you want to solve this activity problem, the answer is simple. We shitpost.

YZPMqUl.gif


All the shitposts will bring the coasters in like flies to, well, shit. And once we have them here, laughing and posting about pineapples and other fruit delicacy. We start asking the hard questions and trap them in this thread.

Here, i'll start:

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Lifeline

Member
Nobody wanna bring up that Monkey developed a nervous tick? Im not gonna say it cause it might be something you can trigger.

To answer you monkey it was in response to his role claim the logic seemed solid. Yes that's backwards cause Sophia said it was role madness before Palmers claim. i skimmed the thread before i saw Sophia's post and then posted that response.

Can you give a updated read list of the people you consider the most scummy and the ones you consider the most townie?

What exactly was swamped trying to achieve if she was scum yesterday?

Swamped was involved in the coordinated attacks on Natiko and Sawneeks along with the rest of my scum picks.

It's ok Saw...once a townie tunnels nothing can stop them. Everything that player does is constructed as a scum tell.

This comment is such a major scum te--aww dammit. You got me.
 
TOWN IS NEVER 100% RIGHT ABOUT SCUM. TOWN WILL MISLYNCH. FREQUENTLY. There is a vast difference between my vote and blarg's vote.

One is saying this guy is town, but he made a claim that i don't like, so I'm going to vote him anyway.

The other is saying this guy is probably scum, and i acknowledge that I have no concrete proof, but I'm willing to take that risk, because even if they're town, they're fairly useless so far.

Do you see a difference?

I don't see a difference
 
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