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[Socrates92]

Convinced this is PR. Question is, is it because they want to "shock" us with a $399 announcement, or are they bracing us for the fact that it is actually $499?

My money is on the former.

 

[yyr]

I hope it's as others have said, and that Geoff is doing this to scare MS into dropping it to $399 by conference time...

...or that it was $399 all along.

$499 is too much and everyone knows that, especially the folks that chose PS4 over XB1 in large part because of the latter's $499 price tag.

Please, please be $399.

 

[Steve McQueen]

Called it. 399 would be great but considering the specs I'm not surprised.

 

[Bobnob]

If this had leaked weeks or months ago ms would of had a shit ton of negetive press and ms knows this , the timing of the leaked 499 seems manufactured to me to give us that boom moment!

#Team399

 

[Couleurs]

Microsoft probably wants him to leak this so that everyone can brace for the disappointment when its announced during the conference. Without leaking ahead of time everyone would be like 10x more pissed.

Yeah it's either that, or so they can "surprise" everyone by saying it's $399 after everyone spends a day thinking its $499.

 

[ClosingADoor]

Come on now, the expectations as of lately have largely grew to the 399 side of things, as you can see in this very thread, a lot of people will be shocked if that is indeed the price (i won't).

I'm not saying this one would be a dirty deal to do, i think if it's a controlled leak to soften the blow, that's fair, i don't view it as a dirty stunt.

If the thing at the end of the day is indeed 399 then i think this is a bad look, mostly for Geoff.

If it is a controlled leak, then the reason would be so this is out of the way, and people already had their reaction on forums and social media about it, so the press conference itself doesn't get overshadowed by it. Or at least that might be the intent.

I just don't see them leaking a higher price at this point in some attempt to create a false narrative of negative emotions around your product.

 

[scream]

He just tweeted it.

 

[darkinstinct]

This makes sense.

Don’t wither away Microsoft. Stay competitive.

Remember when PS4 was cheaper and more powerful? That's how you make yourself competitive.

 

[Theorry]

24 pages, Jesus.

 

[jeffram]

2013 : Xbox One, the best reason to choose a PS4.
2017 : Xbox Scorpio, the best reason to choose a PS4 Pro.

I hope it is not true. A healthy competitive market is better for the costumers.

Not true. Scorpios value prop is different than the pro's, where as the one was upside down compared to the PS4.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

i wonder how much Microsoft paid him to say that

Zero. Dorito pope ain't for sale unless it involves Doritos.

 

[The Hermit]

Only way I can see that happening if it comes with an Elite controler too.

 

[Fardeen]

499$ is the price for such a power machine, what were you expecting to pay? peanuts? 399$ would be too little $450 might have been a sweet spot

 

[gamz]

Between Jez Corden saying $449, the $399 image robot image link and Keighley saying $499 I was thinking it's gonna be like the Xbox one S with multiple different SKUs based on hard drive size.

Or it's literally $499.

I think that R2D2 thing was just a random find. People just ran with it.

 

[CJY]

As I noted Geof doesn't leak. Like ever. That's how he gets all his industry work.

This comes directly from MS. Question is, is it some sort of PR stunt or just a move to try to get the bad vibes out there early

A better journalistic strategy is not leak if they come to you. If you hear it on the grapevine from credible sources when they don't come to you, leak the shit out of it

 

[Patapwn]

What happens to Geoff in 6 hours when it's proven $399?

Seems like an unnecessary reputation hit

 

[Y2Kev]

He used to quite a while back but when does he do it recently? Geoff has access to mountains of industry secrets with his connections why randomly leak this now?

Geoff is able to get the interviews and work he does in the industry because his connections and he is reliable not to piss people off. I'm inclined to believe this is straight from MS

are you saying ms says it's 499 and told Geoff to tell people or are you saying they're using him to "leak" the wrong price?

 

[ZeoVGM]

eh.. Scorpio will still be the best place to play multiplats on console so i disagree. this thing is for hardcore gamers.

We'll see. I have my doubts that most developers will even put the extra effort in for a $500 mid-gen upgrade.

 

[Gamezone]

And with the Norwegian taxes, that'll be more than 700.

 

[RyudBoy]

This thread grew so fast lol

 

[Gnome Scat]

Expected, there better be a good trade in deal.

 

[PopcornMegaphone]

Ugh very disappointing. Hopefully there will be a black friday deal.

 

[sammex]

There is zero reason for Geoff to damage his credibility with this. The MS "paycheck" to be a part of a marketing stunt would never be worth it.

Yeah what positive is there for Geoff if this false? It would ruin any trust in further scoops he might get.

 

[sloppyjoe_gamer]

MS would never let a Tweet spoil what is no doubt a huge part of Scorpios reveal.

Faker than hell, and its going to be $399. Nice try Geoff and MS. #eyeroll

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

STAGE 1: DENIAL.

 

[Giant Panda]

Hard to believe with Jaguar and decent but not amazing GPU. It will be a failure at that price.

 

[Gemüsepizza]

But why would Geoff ruin his reputation by intentionally saying the wrong price?

Exactly. Or why would Microsoft try to hurt his reputation by giving him false information? Makes also no sense.

 

[benzy]

Convinced this is PR. Question is, is it because they want to "shock" us with a $399 announcement, or are they bracing us for the fact that it is actually $499?

My money is on the former.

A $399 reveal would have been well received whether or not Geoff mentioned a $499 price tag.

 

[Erimriv]

I'm out, then. Day one at 399, wont pay more than that.

 

[Flame Lord]

Never dropped my expectation from $499 so I'm still good.

 

[polyh3dron]

#fakenews #fakenewsforclicks.

Xbox Scorpio:
$399 1TB
$499 2TB w/ elite controller.

If it was fake news, like all those Facebook things that popped up last year, Geoff Keighley wouldn't be putting his name on it.

Or are you one of those people who think that the mainstream news outlets are the ones giving us fake news?

No matter, $499 is exactly what I expected to see and it falls in line with what Phil Spencer has been saying lately.

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

As I noted Geof doesn't leak. Like ever. That's how he gets all his industry work.

This comes directly from MS. Question is, is it some sort of PR stunt or just a move to try to get the bad vibes out there early

Would Geoff really do another Doritos Pope thing? If so I wonder if he'll ever post here again!?

 

[Sarobi]

They said it was a premium priced product so.. yeah.

 

[titiklabingapat]

They aren't that dumb, aren't they? It's not even a new generation. Lol. Even Nintendo knew better.

This thing doesnt even have any unique features other than moar powah.

 

[Stoffinator]

Who the fuck watches movies on a disc these days?

How about a vhs player while we at it

I still only buy Blurays. I don't like digital stuff.

And for why Geoff would do this with nothing to gain. Sure he does. He has coverage of E3 and always hype stuff up. Someone as MS may of very well told him its $499 and he believes it. But they know it will be $399. If it is truly $499 MS learned nothing from the Xbox One.

 

[GHG]

It was only three years ago that Xbox One needed a rather prompt price reduction. Above $399 would be a head scratcher.

Why?

They are selling another console that plays the exact same games for a much lower price.

This isn't a mass market consumer product, it's niche.

Scorpio does not replace the Xbox One, it compliments it and fleshes out the product line.

 

[Mikey Jr.]

Hmmm, I doubt Geoff would stake his "confidence" on false information and that MS paid him to lie, haha. I am sure Geoff probably thought long and hard before pasting that info, so I am sure there is a lot of credibility to it.

Having said that $500 is a lot of money for a mid gen upgrade I guess.

I'm assuming the Scorpio is a response to the PS4. And I'm not sure whats going to happen. Sony can drop the pro to $300, and I think Scorpio could be in trouble.

 

[somecrazymember]

But why would Geoff ruin his reputation by intentionally saying the wrong price?

'Unless it changes..' he says.
He'll just say he saw a rehearsal.

Geoff never leaks stuff.. why would he start now..

 

[DieH@rd]

So you're saying

This console is for BIG BALLERS only?

I'm in

We already know that Xbox One is a working man console.

Spoiler

I cannot find that meme pic we crated around "working man Xbone", black and white pic of building workers and a green xbone box.

 

[Klotera]

You can't compare this to the 100 price difference at launch of the base consoles. At the time, MS was selling a weaker console and justifying the extra cost with gimmicks that no one wanted (Kinect/TV pass through). This time they're doing it on specs. The S will still be their play at the mass market.

 

[The Pope]

Not a way in hell this $499. Spencer would have to be as dense as the OG Xbone to make it that price.

 

[gamz]

Only way I can see that happening if it comes with an Elite controler too.

People need to stop it with this. If that was the case make it 399 and ditch the elite controller. It's not coming with a Elite controller for the base model. It makes zero sense cost wise.

 

[scream]

are you saying ms says it's 499 and told Geoff to tell people or are you saying they're using him to "leak" the wrong price?

The later.

 

[allan-bh]

This comes directly from MS. Question is, is it some sort of PR stunt or just a move to try to get the bad vibes out there early

I don't think he will be happy to be used for a Microsoft's PR stunt or consciously participate in.

One possibility is that will be two SKUs and he only knows about the more expensive.

 

[paulogy]

They gotta release with a controller right? Cmon...that would be horrible

Not for folks who already have an Xbox One and just want to upgrade.

 

[Obliterator]

are you saying ms says it's 499 and told Geoff to tell people or are you saying they're using him to "leak" the wrong price?

I think $499. I don't think they would tell Geoff to leak an incorrect price point. I'm just really not sure why.

Only thing I can think of is they want the original wave of shock to already be over before the conference

 

[darkinstinct]

BTW what are the chances he knows someone that can tell him the price but doesn't know the name? And why does he only post one?

 

[panda-zebra]

549€ in Finland then. I have to try to get a few days of overtime for this.

Finland is Tier 3, you got a year to fit it in

Spoiler

sorry!

 

[Baroquemantic]

Don't believe it. Still gonna go with $399.

 

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