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[Freeza Under The Shower]

As for the Plinkett Review, based on all the Sony bashing they make I hope that it's more of a critic on Sony Films, using Ghostbusters 16 as a framing device.

I think that's exactly where it's going, in particular because all of the goods on it are available in the form of the Sony leak. Unfortunately, considering that 'marketing breakdown' video, I have to imagine the cynical side of Mike will also include that, and at that point you've entered the magical land of cynical imagination where anything can happen. Because aliens.


Also, are all of those ads real? Please don't tell me that's all actually included with the movie...
Additionally, the box is the extended version, so at the very least he's watching the better version available.

Other than that, it should basically be a Prequel-level review if you go in-depth into the complete lack of connection between scenes, the tone that flip-flops more than an Olympic athlete, the male sidekick completely stealing the show from what should be a female cast movie, and so on.

I do not know why Gaf has tied itself so much to that particular movie, and I suspect it has more to do with how they are engaged in Youtube alignment wars than it does with the actual movie.
Spy (2015) is a terrific parody of all the misogynistic tropes in spy thrillers, Ghostbusters 2016 is just a cynical Sony reboot movie that they didn't really want to make (and let fail) and didn't bring back the franchise at all.
If anything, I want to know why Hollywood keeps spending all that money on 'reboots!' of "franchises" that have been dead for decades and are not suddenly going to be reanimated. Maybe Feig should make a 'The Producers' type movie next, just to get it all out of his system (get Max Landis to cameo, since he obviously has a bone to pick with that whole production too). Or an actual documentary on what the hell happened around that movie in the general culture. I would certainly watch that.

 

[davepoobond]

I feel like people who don't laugh at insensitive jokes are just not fans of comedy. What can they possibly laugh at

 

[Admiral Woofington]

I feel like people who don't laugh at insensitive jokes are just not fans of comedy. What can they possibly laugh at

The argument that "hey that joke hurt me" is valid if you don't laugh at any joke that also hurts another group. But expecting the comedian to change for your viewing pleasure when it's not his/her goal to do so is silly. Vote with your wallet, don't watch them anymore and if they decide to change to win back audiences that's another story.

 

[BigAT]

I feel like people who don't laugh at insensitive jokes are just not fans of comedy. What can they possibly laugh at

I imagine they're the same people that love CBS comedies.

 

[jett]

What is even going on in that other thread.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

What is even going on in that other thread.

People who don't really watch redlettermedia trying to come up with really vague out of context reasons as to why they're awful people.

Some valid criticism here and there though.

 

[Rockk]

What is even going on in that other thread.

Nerd elitism.

There's definitely a layer of irony of people getting heated over a trailer about a movie that got people heated over watching THAT trailer.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

I wish they knew Neogaf existed so they could make a nerd crew of the reaction to the announcement of a video.

 

[GekigangerV]

What is even going on in that other thread.

1000 posts and the thing isn't out for another day.

On some level I hope it ends up being about the old show with the guys from F-Troop and the gorilla.

Ghostbusters 2016 pretty much fits the same motif as the prequel and crystal skull reviews. A long past due take on a property Mike obviously had a lot of love for in his youth that missed the "point" of the original and why they worked.

I hope it doesn't get too redundant with the Half in the Bag episode.

 

[Gnome Scat]

How is that thread still going?

 

[BassForever]

I hope it doesn't get too redundant with the Half in the Bag episode.

To be fair I'm pretty sure they were pretty drunk in that video

 

[Freeza Under The Shower]

I wish they knew Neogaf existed so they could make a nerd crew of the reaction to the announcement of a video.

I think they're aware. Because Rich and games and this being a gaming board, and Jack is who you'd expect to post on this board poligaf wise.

Also, they probably see a bunch of back-links on their site statistics anyway.

 

[jett]

1000 posts and the thing isn't out for another day.

On some level I hope it ends up being about the old show with the guys from F-Troop and the gorilla.

Ghostbusters 2016 pretty much fits the same motif as the prequel and crystal skull reviews. A long past due take on a property Mike obviously had a lot of love for in his youth that missed the "point" of the original and why they worked.

I hope it doesn't get too redundant with the Half in the Bag episode.

I never watched that movie so this review will be interesting on some level at least. I also don't think highly of the original Ghostbusters, I really don't see what's so great about it. Not sure if I liked it when I was a kid.

 

[Loris146]

Made a thread, gonna be a fun ride once mainstream GAF gets a hold of it: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1416698

Posted in the thread without reading any post. Reading now and holy fucking shit. What the hell is happening

 

[Admiral Woofington]

To be fair I'm pretty sure they were pretty drunk in that video

There's like two/three guys who even though they insist they don't care about redlettermedia they need to be multiple times per page telling others how they don't care for redlettermedia.

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

How is that thread still going?

Bronx Man called this community thread out and he is doing the majority of the posting along with a few others.

 

[rekameohs]

There's like two/three guys who even though they insist they don't care about redlettermedia they need to be multiple times per page telling others how they don't care for redlettermedia.

Star Wars is very important to some people

 

[Loris146]

There's like two/three guys who even though they insist they don't care about redlettermedia they need to be multiple times per page telling others how they don't care for redlettermedia.

Yeah. I didn't like TFA review---> They should stop doing Plinkett reviews forever

I don't understand these guys.

 

[firehawk12]

To be fair Ghostbusters seems like a pointless review only made for the clicks.

I assume it'll amp up the GG crowd really good though.

 

[BassForever]

To be fair Ghostbusters seems like a pointless review only made for the clicks.

I assume it'll amp up the GG crowd really good though.

The very first plinkett review started with "so why am I talking about this movie after so many years when nobody cares anymore? Well the truth is I've got nothing better to do"

 

[Loris146]

To be fair Ghostbusters seems like a pointless review only made for the clicks.

I assume it'll amp up the GG crowd really good though.

Rogue one would have been a better choice then.

 

[IrishNinja]

GAF has a high standard of left opinions and an extremely low standard of anything swaying away from that

GAF isn't a single entity

If only PhoenixDark was alive to see this.

if only

If you have to tread through egg shells in comedy you will reach a point you can't say shit because you'll offend somebody, anybody. If audiences hate it they can 'vote with their wallets' and make it known they don't approve.

Folks turned on Matthew McConaughey as well. If you don't say "fuck Trump" then be wary.

won't someone please think of the poor trump supporters

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

Rogue one would have been a better choice then.

A lot of movies would have been a better choice than this.

 

[Fat4all]

Rogue one would have been a better choice then.

Honestly, I feel like that's one worth sitting on for a bit longer.

It seems like the kind of movie that looses its hype appeal the longer it's been out for, when people start realizing how boring the main characters are.

If they did it too soon, they run the rush of another TFA kind of plinkett review, which was a bit meandering.

 

[Sanjuro]

won't someone please think of the poor trump supporters

I think about them every day.

 

[Joeku]

To be fair Ghostbusters seems like a pointless review only made for the clicks.

I assume it'll amp up the GG crowd really good though.

For what it's worth the only Plinkett reviews that bite as hard as people want were the prequel ones. And maybe Crystal Skull if I remember correctly?

The conversation around this is going to be way louder than any discussion of it, unless it's going to turn into a teardown of Sony's soulless productions in general. Even then I could do without more of the marketing math stuff. Plinkett is at it's best when it's really elaborately picking apart a movie to show what works and what doesn't (which is why the TFA one kind of did nothing for me), but I don't know if I even have the energy to watch the new Ghostbusters to then watch the review.

I just don't give a shit about all these fuckin' limp-ass reboots. I watched Power Rangers, but in my defense, I was pretty drunk. Maybe I'll get drunk and watch GB2016; I do enjoy looking at Chris Hemsworth.

 

[Fat4all]

Maybe I'll get drunk and watch GB2016; I do enjoy looking at Chris Hemsworth.

who doesnt

 

[Skiptastic]

The OT thread of it will be a warzone compare to what it is now. I should stay out of it for a while.

Yeah let's keep the shitty discussion of this over there. Don't turn this thread into that if you please. It's bad enough when page after page is discussion about the latest Pre Rec :lol

 

[killamajig]

Yeah. I didn't like TFA review---> They should stop doing Plinkett reviews forever

I don't understand these guys.

It's like seeing a bad episode of your favorite show and saying to yourself "Fuck, better cancel it!"

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

I'm watching the Best of the Worst where they did Trick or Treat (The one with Gene Simmons and Ozzy) and they make a good point about how some of these movies have poor editing, which makes them a lot worse. What do you guys think?

 

[davepoobond]

A lot of movies would have been a better choice than this.

I don't actually think so. i didn't expect it but it makes sense Mike would choose it.

 

[BassForever]

I'm watching the Best of the Worst where they did Trick or Treat (The one with Gene Simmons and Ozzy) and they make a good point about how some of these movies have poor editing, which makes them a lot worse. What do you guys think?

Editing is probably the most important part of making a film

 

[Cheerilee]

For what it's worth the only Plinkett reviews that bite as hard as people want were the prequel ones. And maybe Crystal Skull if I remember correctly?

The four Star Trek TNG movie reviews he did before the Phantom Menace review were great. And Baby's Day Out and Cop Dog proved that a Plinkett Review can be great no matter what the movie is.

It's only the recent Star Trek/Star Wars reviews that Mike's doing out of obligation that seem to be falling flat.

To be fair Ghostbusters seems like a pointless review only made for the clicks.

I assume it'll amp up the GG crowd really good though.

The recent Transfivers Five series of videos showed that RLM was willing to sabotage their own finances (people mass-closing the video after a few seconds apparently damages what youtube is willing to pay for future videos) for the sake of a joke and getting a reaction out of people.

So in a sense they want clicks, but not in the way most people want clicks.

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

Editing is probably the most important part of making a film

I think it's the top three things to do when making a film.

 

[Fat4all]

I think it's the top three things to do when making a film.

1. Editing
2. Beef Broth
3. Cardamom

 

[Joeku]

The four Star Trek TNG movie reviews he did before the Phantom Menace review were great. And Baby's Day Out and Cop Dog proved that a Plinkett Review can be great no matter what the movie is.

It's only the recent Star Trek/Star Wars reviews that Mike's doing out of obligation that seem to be falling flat.


The recent Transfivers Five series of videos showed that RLM was willing to sabotage their own finances (people mass-closing the video after a few seconds apparently damages what youtube is willing to pay for future videos) for the sake of a joke and getting a reaction out of people.

So in a sense they want clicks, but not in the way most people want clicks.

To the former: Yeah, I enjoy those Star Trek reviews. That random crewmember cut-in is great. I said biting, though, and unless I forget because I haven't watched them in a couple years, nothing else goes in as hard as the Prequel reviews.

To the latter: They're making almost $20K/month on Patreon. Their half a million views per video on Youtube are not at all where they make their money, but nonetheless I appreciate the dedication to the cut to black joke (and a joke that can't really turn into a fucking quote to be repeated ad nauseam). And

Spoiler

for me, personally (kill me)

they jumped the shark once they started selling RLM meme posters and Very Cool t-shirts. Can't be above it all while being annoyed at meme-y Youtube comments when you cultivated them and now sell them on poster paper.

 

[Rodney McKay]

I'm watching the Best of the Worst where they did Trick or Treat (The one with Gene Simmons and Ozzy) and they make a good point about how some of these movies have poor editing, which makes them a lot worse. What do you guys think?

100%.

There's a very well done video on youtube that's an analysis of the editing done in Suicide Squad and went into a lot of detail about how the terrible editing contributed hugely to how awful that movie is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDclQowcE9I

The main focus on Suicide Squad starts at around the 7:25 mark in the video. He starts off talking about other movies and SS's trouble development beforehand.

 

[BassForever]

To the former: Yeah, I enjoy those Star Trek reviews. That random crewmember cut-in is great. I said biting, though, and unless I forget because I haven't watched them in a couple years, nothing else goes in as hard as the Prequel reviews.

To the latter: They're making almost $20K/month on Patreon. Their half a million views per video on Youtube are not at all where they make their money, but nonetheless I appreciate the dedication to the cut to black joke (and a joke that can't really turn into a fucking quote to be repeated ad nauseam). And

Spoiler

for me, personally (kill me)

they jumped the shark once they started selling RLM meme posters and Very Cool t-shirts. Can't be above it all while being annoyed at meme-y Youtube comments when you cultivated them and now sell them on poster paper.

I mean those t-shirts are Very Cool™

 

[jviggy43]

I'm so upset the "VERY COOL" tshirts sold out.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

I'm so upset the "VERY COOL" tshirts sold out.

Seriously? Looks like I bought it while it was hot.

Im upset the beer glasses weren't available when I wanted to buy them.

 

[Fat4all]

Seriously? Looks like I bought it while it was hot.

Im upset the beer glasses weren't available when I wanted to buy them.

that's why I got my MLP beer stiens asap

 

[Ether_Snake]

I was thinking, the Ghostbusters 2016 review could actually be The Matrix review, where Plinkett is about to make a review of the original Ghostbusters movies, but then Morpheus or some such contacts him and gives him the red pill, and he finds out that his world was a fake one and how in the real world there never was any Ghostbusters movie.

Agent Smith is Rich Evans Plinkett, and he wants to make the remake in The Matrix and Plinkett has to go back and stop him.

Plinkett would take the opportunity to review The Matrix movies while in the real world.

 

[Beerman462]

Thread closed. For the best

 

[Fat4all]

d'aww

 

[Lord of Castamere]

It was an accident, I didn't meant to get the thread closed. I thought name dropping Babys Day Out was enough for the sarcasm meter.

Ironically, what I should have posted in the other thread, I'm happy to get another Plinkett review, but I can't help shake the felling that this is going to be the 4 videos(trailer, to controversy, to Science man, to HITB) they've already made, plus the re-review of Ghostbusters, slapped together with some Mr. Plinkett jokes. It feels unnecessary. I'd rather get that review of the Twilight saga.

 

[Schlorgan]

I'm still holding out hope for a Star Trek Beyond video.

 

[The Scollard]

Just got back home after a day out, and completely missed the OT thread. I checked a look, and how crap, was it a shitshow.

Anyway, I think this could be a return to form after the TFA review being sort of disappointing. Mike clearly loves the original GB, and hates the remake, like how he loved the original Star Wars Trilogy and hated the prequels. There's the potential for something great here. I think comparing how the two do humour and why the original works so well while the remake doesn't, would be a good breakdown in the same vein as their TPM review. Touching on Sony Pictures and their line-up of terrible movies would be another great avenue to explore.

It was an accident, I didn't meant to get the thread closed. I thought name dropping Babys Day Out was enough for the sarcasm meter.

Ironically, what I should have posted in the other thread, I'm happy to get another Plinkett review, but I can't help shake the felling that this is going to be the 4 videos(trailer, to controversy, to Science man, to HITB) they've already made, plus the re-review of Ghostbusters, slapped together with some Mr. Plinkett jokes. It feels unnecessary. I'd rather get that review of the Twilight saga.

I feel that the videos they've done on the subject were different enough that it gives them room for a Plinkett review. The trailer reaction was a parody of trailer reactions; it wasn't really about Ghostbusters, since you could have easily swapped it out with any other popular trailer and the video would have been the same. The HITB was them ragging on it while getting more and more sloshed, so the Plinkett review could expand on their previous points and make new ones in their criticism of the movie.

Also, does it feel weird to anyone that some of the people defending the remake were doing so by trying to tear down the original, and saying that it wasn't that good? Even though a lot of people have fond memories of it and it still holds up on rewatch? It's such a bad criticism. I'm okay with comparison of different things, but it wasn't a comparison, just saying the original wasn't good (and not really offering good arguments why). It's like defending the prequels by saying Empire wasn't that good of a movie. It has nothing to do with the film being discussed.

 

[davepoobond]

I'm still holding out hope for a Star Trek Beyond video.

why Beyond? It was good.

Into Darkness is what needs to be torn apart.

edit: totally forgot he did a short one.

 

[Joeku]

why Beyond? It was good.

Into Darkness is what needs to be torn apart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeyLm-pLVm4

Close as you're gonna get.

Edit: Goddamn your edit.

 

[Data West]

I remember gaffers saying james rolfe was sexist because he didn't think the ghostbusters reboot looked very good and wasn't going to watch it and thats all he had to say on the matter

so if you think its some sort of 'personal thing' because rlm keeps covering it, the same people shitting on them in that thread were doing the same thing to him when all he said was he didnt think it looked good and didnt want to see it