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Armband-wearing Nazi roams Seattle instigating, gets KOed, removes armband and leaves
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Saint Gregory
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Not really, I'm pretty sure that we already had a thread about Google's algorithms singling out videos attacking racists for takedowns while protecting alt-right/Nazi/racist propaganda videos. I wish I wasn't in so deep with Google/FB so I could wash their stink out of my life forever. It's just so hard to go back to the dark ages before smart phones and social media.This video has been removed for violating YouTube's policy on harassment and bullying.
That's ironic.
yeah let me just hold my breath for literal Nazis to give back an ounce of tolerance
Beautiful as fuck
That was quite a punch.
Crossing Eden
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rokkerkory
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Deserved it
Monocle
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Fair point.
Made Gifs for you all:
Should fade to monochrome with Wasted over it
And you think people didn't spam report on shit like DaddyOFive?
Also a clear and shut case of bullying (and child abuse), they let that shit stay up. Not a good look.
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Ex-fucking-actly
Indeed, I thought it was great. He will get up, pick his shit up, and hopefully not try and get back or kill people. He should have learned a valuable lesson. What is definitely most interesting is that everybody who knows this guy is going be laughing.
LookAtMeGo
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Muffin1611
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This is not some kind of twisted "evidence" nazis need to justify themselves. Nazis pretended to be socialists to get what they want. They'll do whatever it takes, they don't give a shit about truth or anything, they're believing in made up shit about race to feel better about themselves. They can simply create some bots and spread completely faked news for that, no need for anything else.
Not confronting them when your law doesn't provide the needed laws for it is exactly what they want.
"Jeez Yugs..."You activated my trap card! When a white moderate misinterprets MLK's intentions, this card activates to give them a history lesson.
"I'm just getting started!"
30yearsofhurt
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Huh?
Why are you holding your breath man. I'm saying we should be standing up to the white supremacists, nazis, etc.. Look what happened when someone stood up to him. The armband came off and he slunk back under his rock. Take the passive resistance if you want but these cunts will thrive where fear prevails.
Made Gifs for you all:
Shorter version:
And the aftermath
If Bish was still around and someone put a post reply image on the dude hand and bish face on the dude throwing the punch it would have made for the best banned gif ever.
Ultimadrago
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That was one quick edit. The post also seemed oddly relevant for being the 'Wrong Thread', defending Youtube and Google, while wrongfully calling Easy_D (and others with a similar viewpoint) insane for calling them out?
You also said that nazi idiots will unfortunately always be somewhere. That much is true.
Tackleberry
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I'm not the type to advocate violence..
But in that case I will make an exception.
My great grandmother came to this country to get the hell away from the Nazis.
There is nothing cute or funny about being a racist moron. You walk out on the street and try to pick fights, then you get what you deserve.
No sympathy. He's lucky as hell that he ONLY got knocked out.
But in that case I will make an exception.
My great grandmother came to this country to get the hell away from the Nazis.
There is nothing cute or funny about being a racist moron. You walk out on the street and try to pick fights, then you get what you deserve.
No sympathy. He's lucky as hell that he ONLY got knocked out.
not psycho
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I'm guessing this is the outside audience watching the US right now:
Free Speech is a wonderful thing, and I generally come down much closer to the US version than elsewhere, but it does not exist free of context and responsibility. We all know about yelling "fire" in a crowded theater. But what about when the president of the United States says this:
What about when the president undermines language itself through pervasive lying and "joking" and calling anything he doesn't like "fake news"? And what about when people go out in public wearing symbols supporting genocide, harassing minorities, with full knowledge that there have been multiple recent murders committed by similar people, therefore heightening the intended threat beyond even the usual level?
We've got some difficult decisions to make on speech, because speech is powerful. Speech can be degraded. Speech has no magical self defense mechanism. There is no guarantee that a given level of speech will be maintained indefinitely by sitting back and doing nothing. In the face of fascism, punching a Nazi could wind up being a better defense of speech, before getting to all the rest of Nazism. Calls to sit back and do nothing seem motivated more by laziness, wishful thinking, and unwillingness to self-examine than anything else.
Free Speech is a wonderful thing, and I generally come down much closer to the US version than elsewhere, but it does not exist free of context and responsibility. We all know about yelling "fire" in a crowded theater. But what about when the president of the United States says this:
What about when the president undermines language itself through pervasive lying and "joking" and calling anything he doesn't like "fake news"? And what about when people go out in public wearing symbols supporting genocide, harassing minorities, with full knowledge that there have been multiple recent murders committed by similar people, therefore heightening the intended threat beyond even the usual level?
We've got some difficult decisions to make on speech, because speech is powerful. Speech can be degraded. Speech has no magical self defense mechanism. There is no guarantee that a given level of speech will be maintained indefinitely by sitting back and doing nothing. In the face of fascism, punching a Nazi could wind up being a better defense of speech, before getting to all the rest of Nazism. Calls to sit back and do nothing seem motivated more by laziness, wishful thinking, and unwillingness to self-examine than anything else.
What episode is this??
It seems like we have the usual idiots that know nothing about MLK Jr but the shit they are force fed:
Let me educate you:
"But it is not enough for me to stand before you tonight and condemn riots. It would be morally irresponsible for me to do that without, at the same time, condemning the contingent, intolerable conditions that exist in our society. These conditions are the things that cause individuals to feel that they have no other alternative than to engage in violent rebellions to get attention. And I must say tonight that a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it America has failed to hear?...It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice and humanity."
— ”The Other America," 1968
He was against systemic violence as the ultimate tool in organizing resistance. He totally understood violence was going to happen.
Let me educate you:
"But it is not enough for me to stand before you tonight and condemn riots. It would be morally irresponsible for me to do that without, at the same time, condemning the contingent, intolerable conditions that exist in our society. These conditions are the things that cause individuals to feel that they have no other alternative than to engage in violent rebellions to get attention. And I must say tonight that a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it America has failed to hear?...It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice and humanity."
— ”The Other America," 1968
He was against systemic violence as the ultimate tool in organizing resistance. He totally understood violence was going to happen.
OrlanisWorks
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I understand what you are saying, but you are not doing a good job expressing your stance. You need to leave out the "mental illness" and the "you don't know what he's been through" and stick to the "I don't approve of vigilante justice, because it honestly may harm a valuable person's future."
The Last Wizard
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Funny how that works right. But then again the tech industry know what side their bread is buttered on.
mb read it as you saying people who resort to violence to oppose extremists should be shunned by society
Snowybreak
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Oh enough with this bullshit. The right has already been demonizing the left for fucking years here. And this guy was wearing a fucking swastika. It's not like we are so far removed from the second World War that people can't remember Nazis.
S1E09, Something Ricked This Way Comes. It's a part of the after credit gag
Saint Gregory
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Maybe I'm in the minority on this but I'm so far beyond caring anymore what folks who have sympathy for racists think. If it helps them sleep better at night to believe that the left/progressives are the violent ones and the poor Nazis deserve a fair shake then let them wallow in their delusions. It's not as if they have any empathy for the victims of true oppression anyway.
And this.
I suck at this someone should do the one punch Mashup intro
https://youtu.be/atxYe-nOa9w
https://youtu.be/atxYe-nOa9w
Shadow Puppetry
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This video has been removed for violating YouTube's policy on harassment and bullying.
That's ironic.
Another upload was taken down due to sexual content or nudity LOL
Yeah, that's how I read it too. Sorry about that. Hard to tell when we've had people saying just that in this thread.
Sure, but Washington has laws against malicious harassment (including threatening speech) and people do get arrested, charged, and convicted for it.
It might not be perfect or speedy or without room for improvement, but it isn't like it doesn't exist.
Let's be really, really clear on one thing. Tolerating these viewpoints is not acceptable. And I'm not just talking about the full blown Nazis, with the swastikas and all. It's the underlying shit that's seen as acceptable that enables it, and the pervasive racism. There is to be no defending it. Just because I believe that reacting with violence is not the answer doesn't mean that isn't one of the very few things that I feel so strongly about.
What is zero tolerance, though? I don't believe they should be left unchallenged. I don't believe they should be left in any doubt that no right minded person supports them. I draw the line this side of punching them in what appears to have been a premeditated attack rather than a heat of the moment reaction to harassment. I completely understand people on the other side of that line, I just can't condone it myself, and I believe that it is the wrong thing to do, morally and practically. Maybe you believe that punching him was a right thing to do. How about shooting him dead? That's another possibility that meets all the criteria people are raising. It's certainly zero tolerance. It's a sign to other Nazis that they aren't safe. Probably a step too far for a lot of people, though. But I bet you'd find some support for it too.
I don't feel sympathy for the Nazi. But at the same time I don't think this sort of attack is the right thing to do, or that it's a constructive thing to do.
And I'm not sure how I feel about my de-modding either; I can understand why it happened, and it saddens me a bit, but hey. Shit happens. Would quite like a chat about it with EviLore. Not to ask for it back - I'd argue against that if he suggested it - but because he's someone whose opinion I respect enough that I want to make sure he understands where I'm actually coming from on this one, and that it maybe isn't quite what first impressions may suggest.
Jzero
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Honestly this needs to be reposted in every page. These people aren't saints, they want minorities to be exterminated from "their country"
Gordon Shumway
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To be fair, he did get fisted..
Crossing Eden
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Another one for the hell of it:
Spoiled Milk
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Snowybreak
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*Snrk*
toddhunter
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Fair enough, and thankyou for trying to understand my point rather than calling me a nazi :|
it seems I used some trigger words when trying to get that point across and will do better next time.
People just need to be very careful with this. Punches do kill. You want to be very careful who you punch and why, and even more careful about inciting violence from a distance.
30yearsofhurt
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Absolutely not.
Peaceful and functional societies are built on tolerance. But tolerance isn't a freebie, it's a quid-pro-quo. If you want some, give some. If not then you won't get it because you're shunning the central tenet of society..
He may have the right to say what he wants against that but society has the obligation to protect itself from his intolerance and smack him down for it. So intolerance for intolerance.
Sort of like 'to-ensure-peace-prepare-for-war' but you can see what happens where people condone intolerance right through history. So ask yourself what sort of society you want and are you ready to stand up for it like the anti-fascists did in Charlotte.
Finky Spunky
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Dudes asking for it, I mean really??
Vicetrailia
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Holy Crap, so the nazi didn't even snitch? Punching does work. He took off his shit and went home like a good little boy. I for one am proud.
Could you imagine what his home looks like? Probably didn't want to bring any more attention?
You're dismissing his actions by pinning it all on mental illness. When you do this, you're disregarding his agency in the situation and allowing him to get off free on the idea that his actions weren't his own through some insanely over complicated idea that this man decided to buy an armband, walk around with it, and insult some people with racist remarks on the chance that not only would they respond by punching him, but that they would hit him hard enough to kill him in a single shot or form an angry mob and beat him to death instead of him just being an asshole who got really confident about being a nazi in public like all of the other ones who have started to spring up in the past year or so. On top of that, you're trying to use that flat-earth strategy where you say that we can't prove that everything isn't lies without having control over every single aspect of the situation to make your own implausible scenario seem just as credible.
Not approving of vigilante justice is fine, but don't put racists under that mental illness umbrella. It sucks for people who actually have mental illnesses and it sucks for people who have to deal with the issue of white supremacy being swept under the rug because "ah that guy's just crazy."
MsKrisp
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I can't really say I have much faith in the justice system regardless.
And, quite frankly, nazis in jail network with more nazis and become more dangerous. I still feel like this was the best outcome.
if faced with a nazi, it wouldn't be any kind of moral judgement stopping me from punching them, it would be this. they might shoot my ass.
TheOohChild
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Dude came at him ready to swing, and the nazi just put his hand up like "Halt"
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