Baron von Loathsome
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Fighting for alternative facts, institutional racism, and the Nazi way!
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COMICS!!! |OT| September 2017 | 25 Years of wearing a smile to work!
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Fighting for alternative facts, institutional racism, and the Nazi way!
Loooooooooooooooooooool you can't comment on that while fuckin doing it yourself. Get out of here with that bullshit.
Freezasaurus
Member
I have to admit I'm curious.
Some Nobody
Junior Member
Because you've got a Titans and a Teen Titans and it'd be easier if you just re-branded one as Young Justice. Nostalgia Factor + Season 3 of the Television Series + Reducing Possible Confusion.
Titans (or change it to Titans Forever): The classic original line-up plus the Wolfman-Perez folks, and maybe Damian hanging out because he loves his big brother Nightwing and hates Tim.
Young Justice: Recently returned Tim Drake, Cass Sandsmark, Bart Allen, Superboy, Aqualad. Maybe you sneak in Miss Martian and Arrowette.
Well. Creators told them "make your own comics". They listened. Now if they're really about the free market, they'll be fine whether their book succeeds or fails on its own merit.
Baron von Loathsome
Member
I would be surprised if Bart and to a lesser extent Superboy returned in the near future.
It's twenty pages of this a month:
Some Nobody
Junior Member
Fun fact: Part of the reason Geoff wanted to do Rebirth was because he felt characters had become unrecognizable in the New 52. One of those characters? Superboy.
Geoff also was responsible for bringing both of these characters back to life in Legion of 3 Worlds. They're an integral part of 90's and 00's DC, so to leave them out just because we've got N52 Wally and Jon Kent would be a bit of a shame.
Pffahahaha. You just know someone was referencing that exact comic. Hilarious.
LordOfLore
Banned
I'm looking forward to the first Rebirth meeting of the Legion and Clark. Hopefully Johns will get to be the one writing it.
Freezasaurus
Member
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
These people are so fucking boring with their character designs.
Titans and Teen Titans only are separate because of the stuff that they deal with and the age gap between most of their member. Theres no need for a YJ book when you already have Teen Titans.
Freezasaurus
Member
With their....one character design we've seen? She looks like BDSM Wonder Woman, which I am okay with.
Serpentine
Banned
Baron von Loathsome
Member
So she looks like Wonder Woman?
Poodlestrike
Banned
White Supremacist Wonder Woman is more the theme I'm getting. That shit's not okay.
Try to think with your dick a little bit less m8.
Freezasaurus
Member
Eh, okay. Now I see it. Still kind of curious to see what happens in the three months before this company implodes.
lmao no
It's just Marvel doesn't know what to do, DC stepped up their game while Marvel keeps stumbling around.
When yesterday's reveal happened, I just rolled my eyes because they punked out and Legacy not feeling like a new step but the same thing with things moved around, I'm cynical as fuck with them right now.
2012-2015 pre Wars was so fucking good and hit a lot of good spots and now, they have no idea what to do now, it's like $599 PS3 era Sony.
I want them to do better, I want them to succeed in books, I want the new kids to succeed but fuck me, so many fuck ups and Empire was my tipping point.
I wanted to say Maybe Empire will be good, Maybe Spencer has a good ending. Maybe...
*blows raspberry*
I'm flabbergasted with them, Green Arrow and Flash, those 2 books alone are fucking aces. Marvel has good shit but they aren't marketing that correctly.
I want people to read Hawkeye, Jean Grey, Gwenpool and the books they axed before now but no, they need to talk about what happened in Venomverse and Secret Empire and there's a mini event after the mini-mini event.
Give me a Riri book in Chicago.
Give me a Sam Nova book that was just as good as last one.
Promote Black Bolt the same as Mighty Thor.
I want them to do better.
Freezasaurus
Member
Believe me, they want them to do better, too.
Based on what I read, I get the impression that DC is all about crafting engaging stories that people will want to read, whereas Marvel is thinking purely about what they think will sell. It doesn't help that there's a huge talent vacuum at Marvel right now. That Image exodus really hurt them where the talent at DC has remained pretty consistent.
Huge talent vacuum isn't even close to true. You continue to willfully ignore the talent they have.
A year and a half ago people were accusing DC of the exact same shit.
I don't think any of those books would survive.
Baron von Loathsome
Member
Give me a Man-Thing book set in the Bronx.
Freezasaurus
Member
There are comic fans who will refuse to read a book if Gwenpool appears in it. Those people are sad.
The last Man Thing book flopped haaaaaard and that was RL Stein
Freezasaurus
Member
Doesn't necessarily mean anything. What does RL Stein know about loveable swamp monsters anyway?
LordOfLore
Banned
Still don't know why that wasn't just released as an OGN.
Freezasaurus
Member
So basically you're asking why Marvel didn't make a good business decision in a time when they're pretty sketchy on making good business decisions?
Yeah that should have been a OGN.
I guess then people wouldn't have noticed that the book was actually shit.
I don't see a Man Thing OGN selling better than a mini + trade.
Essentially this. It's just not a great idea.
Freezasaurus
Member
I'm sure they would have noticed. The stench would have been unbearable.
Aizo
Banned
My thoughts exactly. This has happened in many mediums. A creator wants to criticize the way others work on the industry by satirizing them, but it often moves from irony to just doing the same exact thing as them. That's the worst.
Some Nobody
Junior Member
There's no need for a lot of things that happen in comics other than "Would people like this?" , though.
DC shored up. Venditti proved he could write non-trash GL. Rucka came back. Priest came back. Steve Orlando and James Tynion stepped up. Gene Yang was given an actually good superhero book to work with. And that's before you get to newer writers like the Benson sisters.
Marvel's actually got a great amount of talent tho. Al Ewing, Jason Aaron, Mark Waid, G. Willow Wilson, and Charles Soule are all great.
The Image exodus hurt both companies tho, so I'm not sure why only Marvel takes the brunt.
Freezasaurus
Member
Johnny Storm's severed hand?
Freezasaurus
Member
It robbed Marvel of Remender and Hickman. Both were huge losses.
Image exodus mostly refers to Mavels best writers taking to Image. None of those writers were working at DC at the time. Most of the people at DC right now are either new or those who were the brightspots of the new 52/DCYou era.Only notable writer that left DC was Jeff Lemire and that was because he got a Marvel exclusive. And now hes back with a new book and a highly hinted at 2nd.
Yup they also have : Kelly Thompson, Christopher Hastings, Brandon Montclare and Amy Reeder, Ryan North, Chip Zdarsky, Dennis Hopeless, Mariko Tamaki, Kieron Gillen, Ta-Nehisi Coates, Greg Pak, Tom Taylor, Jason Latour and David F Walker.
So forgive me for not thinking these writers are a bunch of talentless scrubs. Every one of these peoples books are worth reading. That's before you get to Bendis who is currently doing 3-4 books containing some of the best work of his career and Slott finishing up a stellar run on Silver Surfer regardless of how you feel about his Spider-man.
Marvels problems are not talent related. They are a management and vision issue. There are many legit books being published by them right now once you step away from the event.
Wanna thank everyone who pointed out that Comixology links with Amazon accounts directly now. I grabbed their app and logged in with my Amazon account, no more Kindle app! What a huge QoL difference.
Oh I just assumed you had done that. What a huge difference that makes lol.
Aizo
Banned
Enormous gap. Enjoy your read!Wanna thank everyone who pointed out that Comixology links with Amazon accounts directly now. I grabbed their app and logged in with my Amazon account, no more Kindle app! What a huge QoL difference.
Freezasaurus
Member
It can't be a worse experience than the old Dark Horse app. That thing was the worst.
They are definitely comparable
Freezasaurus
Member
DH would have to be worse though, since it was supposed to have been designed purely with comics in mind. I used that thing once and it barely functioned.