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EA shuts down Visceral, moves Star Wars game to EA Vancouver/others
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Yes, and thus games that make less money are less cost-effective for the company. In the end these companies are publicly traded and even a profitable game that simply doesn't return enough profit can be an undesirable result for shareholders.
badcrumble
Member
I'm glad to hear you're alright. This is such a damn shame, though. I wish Visceral would've gotten the kind of latitude on an AAA licensed game that Rocksteady has, but I guess it's different since Rocksteady's outright owned by WB but Visceral isn't owned by Disney. Sigh.
Lifejumper
Member
FUCK.
TharpDaddy
Member
Man what a bummer. Add another to EA's kill count.
Instead of killing Criterion they just turned it into a lifeless husk. Almost a fate worst than death in some ways; but at least it lets people keep a job.
Instead of killing Criterion they just turned it into a lifeless husk. Almost a fate worst than death in some ways; but at least it lets people keep a job.
Gormless Noodle
Member
I think we got a new Jimquisition episode.
I feel like I made a deal with the devil for new Star Trek episodes and it's killing everything I love about this industry.
Phew. That's good at least. For now. "Heh."
Phew. That's good at least. For now. "Heh."
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
People like that type of game, so maybe.
They had one back in the day.
Criterion might as well be dead.
Obliterator
Member
Single player games will still exist for sure. If they are open world, offer 50+ hours of content, and have MXT and loot Boxes in them.
Outside of 1st party and Indies what example is there in the market of AAA single player linear focused games succeeding? The only major 3rd part publisher still trying, Bethesda, has had 3 misses in a row all with good quality games.
The market does not any longer support linear story based games
UnemployedVillain
Member
I wouldn't say they're riding it more that they realize:
1. These games flourish through word of mouth, and for a new system that's crucial
2. I've said this before, but GaaS are the way multiplayer games should be. Nintendo's large multiplayer titles were already once a gen, so they were tailor made for this model
They aren't neglecting single player experiences. They did launch with a massive single player game (Zelda) and will be finishing off the year with more of the (DLC, Mario Odyssey and Xenoblade 2)
The MP will be super shitty GaaS, don't worry about it.
illmatic22
Banned
EA discussing Amy Hennig's "next move" very much sounds like that Star Wars game as it was is dead.
Truth. My Brother primarily played Single Player games but got hooked on Destiny and barely played anything else. Games as a Service is the present and future.
Cool that they landed Aaron Contreras (Mafia 3, AC: Black Flag) as narrative lead.
Goddamn. Sounds like this will be an EA hackjob to try and make something out of the work Visceral did to get a better return on investment. How long does EA have the Disney license?
Mass Effect
Member
Possibly. Only time will tell.
The reason why EA has the Star Wars license in the first place is because Disney killed their home gaming department dead. They want nothing to do with that kind of development these days.
Fuck. Wasn't looking forward to this and wished it wouldn't happen. I really hoped they were going to use Visceral to make a dead space 4, But nope. Honestly killing everything they're involved with. Mass effect is on life support, BF2 may well be known as being p2w.
Honestly feel sorry for everyone at visceral and wish them the best of luck.
Poor Henning too, Moved over for star wars and this happens. Knowing EA though we should known this was always a risk.
And the statement worries me about the future of the game too. "Revamp" And they want to make it playable for a long time... Which definitely suggests it's moving away from an SP game into...something with a ton of updates and an economy around it probably.
Sad day. If visceral remnants want to go for something like a dead space spiritual successor, fully behind them.
Honestly feel sorry for everyone at visceral and wish them the best of luck.
Poor Henning too, Moved over for star wars and this happens. Knowing EA though we should known this was always a risk.
And the statement worries me about the future of the game too. "Revamp" And they want to make it playable for a long time... Which definitely suggests it's moving away from an SP game into...something with a ton of updates and an economy around it probably.
Sad day. If visceral remnants want to go for something like a dead space spiritual successor, fully behind them.
That's pretty sad as I really liked their Dead Space IP and was really anticipating their take on Uncharted: Star Wars.
Oh well...in a couple years we will yearn the days with these high class SP-High-Budget games.
But hey, some will be probably left which we can buy in a sale so we can afterwards criticise the lack of said games.
Oh well...in a couple years we will yearn the days with these high class SP-High-Budget games.
But hey, some will be probably left which we can buy in a sale so we can afterwards criticise the lack of said games.
Look at the thread titles:
Bethesda and 3 and a half under-performing games in a row
Gran Turismo Sport is extremely limited in offline mode (no saves, unlocks, etc..)
EA shuts down Visceral, moves Star Wars game to EA Vancouver/others
Resident Evil 7 Ships 4 Million Copies Worldwide (At 500K/2M FY goal by March 2018)
I think God is trying to tell us something today.
Bethesda and 3 and a half under-performing games in a row
Gran Turismo Sport is extremely limited in offline mode (no saves, unlocks, etc..)
EA shuts down Visceral, moves Star Wars game to EA Vancouver/others
Resident Evil 7 Ships 4 Million Copies Worldwide (At 500K/2M FY goal by March 2018)
I think God is trying to tell us something today.
But you're acting like consumers are upset with the current landscape. Many of them aren't. Like at all. And you see this with how much money is being spent.
My cousin who really doesn't have the income to spend on lots of games, has a family etc. He told me he needs the games he does buy to last a long time.
It's why he plays games like Destiny and Overwatch and various fighters.
But yea your average consumer is ok with it. They are the ones spending money and happily so. And it may not seem like it. But a lot of people on this very forum are indifferent to it as well.
VincentMatts
Member
oh man that sucks, poor Dead Space. Such a great game. Shame.
So Hennig is out?
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
EA had a game that can sell. There's no reason to blow it in order to chase Destiny again.
Kamina
Golden Boy
WTF is this new GaaS thing i read everywhere on GAF all of the sudden?
Google Search only bought Generally Accepted Auditing Standards
BOTW has a season pass and let us not forget the amibo bs.
prag16
Banned
BUT I WANTED MY STAR WARS IN THE STYLE OF UNCHARTED YOU BASTARDS
Unfortunately, this was my first thought when I read the part about "pivoting the design" or whatever.
Unfortunately, this was my first thought when I read the part about "pivoting the design" or whatever.
Thank god for Jim, hearing him trash EA is always cathartic.
almostjuliuscaesar
Member
Clusterfuck
MegaSackman
Member
Ohhhhh that explains why it's the best mode!! :O
Sad Affleck
Member
Yes.
I have no trust in EA doing the right thing here. Amy was pushed before. Perhaps she is being pushed again. That pure speculation, but you have to consider the past.
Perhaps EA said: Amy, destiny makes bank, we need your creative direction to make bank like destiny. And Amy said go eat shit, you cant make the kind of stories I tell in thst sort of game. They are clearly trying to spin the closure of a studio into something that sound like a positive. But you can see that they are basically saying we wanted to bend the initial idea and the current studio wasnt playing ball. And we know Amy wont move when pushed like this...
Visceral is a strong studio and Im sure it became even stronger with Amy. Dont be surprised if we see a respawn style situation (without EA ovi).
Perhaps EA said: Amy, destiny makes bank, we need your creative direction to make bank like destiny. And Amy said go eat shit, you cant make the kind of stories I tell in thst sort of game. They are clearly trying to spin the closure of a studio into something that sound like a positive. But you can see that they are basically saying we wanted to bend the initial idea and the current studio wasnt playing ball. And we know Amy wont move when pushed like this...
Visceral is a strong studio and Im sure it became even stronger with Amy. Dont be surprised if we see a respawn style situation (without EA ovi).
Neff
Member
There's plenty of good examples in the wall-touching genre.
The average consumer doesn't care about the sanctity of the gaming hobby or whatever. They view games as entertainment and the type of entertainment they enjoy is usually multiplayer-based with long lasting support from MTs. You might as well be bashing your head against the wall about this.
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