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[shinra-bansho]

I thought there was some sort of rule against cocktease nonsense.

VGleaks says the January dev kit has 8GB unified RAM which I assume must be GDDR5.

Presumably, though, developers were targeting 4GB in the final retail unit.

 

[Galacticos]

This shit should be bannable. Don't hold your "super secret" info above our heads. Just say it or don't.

I agree. this kind of stuff should be bannable.
thuway, face the consequences.

 

[Mpl90]

I could say something right now, but no one would believe me, and it has 10% chance of happening :-/.

Please, say it. Now that you said this, you can't go back. Tell us what you know, and stop. Time will tell us if you were right or not.

 

[slider]

I could say something right now, but no one would believe me, and it has 10% chance of happening :-/.

Thanks for that.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

I could say something right now, but no one would believe me, and it has 10% chance of happening :-/.

If its 10% who will care anyway? I can say something 10% chance.

 

[ekim]

write up from examiner
http://www.examiner.com/article/ea-...-excited-for-ps4-calls-battlefield-4-stunning


Between now and E3 you will see a lot of stuff from EA

Me likey

 

[shinobi602]

thuway, your credibility is dropping by the minute. Speak man.

 

[Cold-Steel]

This shit should be bannable. Don't hold your "super secret" info above our heads. Just say it or don't.

This. Fuck these "insiders".

Half of them ended up being wrong already.

 

[nib95]

I really don't know how the RAM would be used in the dev kits but if you're right and the Durango dev kit had 12GB then it only had 4GB DDR3 to play with! (8GB for Windows/dev tools)

The key difference here is that the Nextbox was internally purported to use DDR3 for final retail whilst the PS4 would instead use gddr5.

 

[AgentP]

I really don't know how the RAM would be used in the dev kits but if you're right and the Durango dev kit had 12GB then it only had 4GB DDR3 to play with! (8GB for Windows/dev tools)

Why would you say that?

 

[Espada]

Goddamn, this news about $70 games, always online, and incorporating microtransactions into all games is killing my hype for next gen.

 

[nib95]

I thought there was some sort of rule against cocktease nonsense.
Presumably, though, developers were targeting 4GB in the final retail unit.

Why would they be targeting 4gb gddr5 retail when they had only 2.2gb of it to play with? Both the jump to 4gb and the more recent jump to 8gb were recent changes. Even insiders said as much. Which is why initially many said Durango was more powerful.

 

[Kafel]

I could say something right now, but no one would believe me, and it has 10% chance of happening :-/.

you have 100% chance of getting banned if you don't say anything now after that tease

 

[Reiko]

Goddamn, this news about $70 games, always online, and incorporating microtransactions into all games is killing my hype for next gen.

Don't forget possible next gen DLC bullshit.

 

[Arrogant Menace]

I'm still waiting on thuway to discuss what he was talking about in the other thread

 

[cpp_is_king]

MS for the win lol

Except for the part where everything about PS4 is shaping up to be absolutely amazing, right?

 

[Mrbob]

Typically a dev kit has twice as much ram as a retail model. The 2.2GB VRAM on the initial dev kit is tough to figure out. Unless that is what it was: an early dev kit.

Thuway, you better post it now or your gaf account could get nuked. Sorry dude.

 

[ekim]

I'm still waiting on thuway to discuss what he was talking about in the other thread

Link?

 

[Violater]

Let's hope. It won't happen.

Rather myopic view you have there.

As nice as this would be, it would only potentially hurt their chances at competing with CoD. Sadly many people actually do buy these games for their single player component, though I'm not sure why.

And those people could buy the full version that has the SP, I just want the MP at a reduced price to offset the cost of the inevitable DLC.

 

[Glorified G]

This. Fuck these "insiders".

Half of them ended up being wrong already.

Because most of them just make shit up.

 

[statham]

they are coming for you thuway,

 

[Epcott]

Goddamn, this news about $70 games, always online, and incorporating microtransactions into all games is killing my hype for next gen.

Yeah. If they're planning to handle micro-transactions in the same way they do it in mobile games, I'm staying far away from EA.

 

[JohnnySasaki86]

OMG8GBGDDR5 people freaking out about "comparable in power comment" 3...2...1...


get used to it folks... all of the power chest beating this week is going to be put to bed long before and certainly after the consoles (and BF4 which I can not wait for 1080p/60?) are released.


games will look and play the same, to most people

No! Like I said before the term "comparable" is highly subjective, especially coming from an exec thats probably not some tech geek. To most people PS2/Xbox were "comparable".

Until MS shows that PS4 GPU doesn't have 50% more processing power, they have comparable bandwidth, and are not reserving an ungodly amount of CPU and RAM resources I wont accept that. One system being 10x the previous gen, and the other being 8x the previous gen, is not the same.

Also any game being 1080p/60fps on next gen consoles, doesn't mean shit to me if its a cross gen game. Were gonna have to wait around two years from the start of this gen to see the real next gen games, and therefor see what the real multiplatform differences may or may not be. Budgets are just two high for this current gen and next gen, for them to ignore that 150M install bases on PS3/360, until the install basis on PS4/Durango are around 20M each.

 

[Piggus]

Typically a dev kit has twice as much ram as a retail model. The 2.2GB VRAM on the initial dev kit is tough to figure out. Unless that is what it was: an early dev kit.

It was probably dedicated VRAM for a video card rather than VRAM associated with an APU. It would have to have been paired with DDR3 like a regular PC.

 

[CrunchinJelly]

I'm still waiting on thuway to discuss what he was talking about in the other thread

You'll be waiting a long time. He does this all the time.

 

[zomgbbqftw]

Why would they be targeting 4gb gddr5 retail when they had only 2.2gb of it to play with? Both the jump to 4gb and the more recent jump to 8gb were recent changes. Even insiders said as much. Which is why initially many said Durango was more powerful.

The changes were facilitated by GDDR5 densities increasing. Sony seem to have held steady at 16 chips, and the 8GB has been made possible by Hynix and Samsung pushing out 4Gb chips this quarter. Even the most up to date devkit won't have the full 8GB available for games yet.

 

[nib95]

Thuway, you'd be best to spill the beans, becaise mods will ban you for teasing otherwise.

 

[Jburton]

You'll be waiting a long time. He does this all the time.

Bullshit behaviour.

I thought you where supposed to either tell all or fuck up, teasing is frowned upon.

 

[BruiserBear]

If BF4 is targeting 1080p & 60FPS... Does EA know something about Durango that we don't?

Just like any PC gamer knows, you can always adjust the settings to achieve 60fps. Saying they're targeting 1080p and 60fps says nothing about the power of the two consoles. BF4 could be 1080p and 60fps on the PS3/360 if they wanted to hit those numbers. It would just look rather shitty.

 

[Arrogant Menace]

Link?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=48356480&postcount=820

Post doesn't make sense one bit

 

[slider]

Because most of them just make shit up.

My take on it, which I've said before, was that most (or do I mean some?) of them were simply mouthpieces. Of course that can lead to misunderstandings.

On topic, that Examiner piece certainly sounds promising and bullish. Don't know if I buy it entirely though!

 

[Mrbob]

It was probably dedicated VRAM for a video card rather than VRAM associated with an APU. It would have to have been paired with DDR3 like a regular PC.

Makes sense. Solution found.

 

[Galacticos]

He's banned.
Good riddance.

 

[baphomet]

Doesn't look like he's telling anything now.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

He's banned.
Good riddance.

Well that escalated quickly

 

[JohnnySasaki86]

He's banned.
Good riddance.

Great. Didn't even give him a chance to spill the beans???

edit: Was he banned because he teased? Cause it didn't seem like he was given enough time to just say what he was talking about.

 

[Kaako]

Thuway were you a gravedigger in your past life, bro?
Edit: Ahaha bish.

 

[bishoptl]

industry insiderp

 

[Mung]

Thuway.. just couldn't keep quiet..

 

[Biggzy]

Just like any PC gamer knows, you can always adjust the settings to achieve 60fps. Saying they're targeting 1080p and 60fps says nothing about the power of the two consoles. BF4 could be 1080p and 60fps on the PS3/360 if they wanted to hit those numbers. It would just look rather shitty.

True, but resolution is normally the first thing developers adjust if they need extra performance, as it is the least noticeable to the average consumer. I suppose a wait and see approach is in order for everyone.

 

[Glorified G]

At least he didn't make it up and later claim his "source" gave him wrong info like last time.

 

[Jburton]

Too much of that nonsense has been going on for months now, and most of the supposed "insiders" and the supposedly technically proficient have turned out to be more often than not found wanting ....... and a lot of these insider geniuses had the balls to shout down and ridicule people.


Glad to see the mods shut this shit down.

 

[nib95]

Damn man, I wanted to know what it was as well lol.

 

[BruiserBear]

Thank God. I'm getting so tired of these "industry insiders" that aren't really industry insiders.

Best leave that work to the professionals folks.

At least he didn't make it up and later claim his "source" gave him wrong info like last time.

lol, this

Damn man, I wanted to know what it was as well lol.

Why? This is exactly the kind of talk that leads people to want to become these "industry insider" types. What makes you want to hear some random predictions that are likely meaningless?

 

[Gemüsepizza]

I guess he just refered to an idea he had or something, not suggest that he has super secret insider information - because why else would he write that it has a "10% chance" of it becoming true?

 

[cpp_is_king]

I guess he just refered to an idea he had or something, not suggest that he has super secret insider information - because why else would he write that it has a "10%" chance of it becoming true?

Because it's some deal that's in the works, and the outcome / decision is not yet final?

 

[Espada]

Don't forget possible next gen DLC bullshit.

Yeah, things are getting out of hand. They're squeezing every possible drop of profit out of us rather than scaling things back on their end. I honestly don't think this will go over well with consumers. I mean... $70? A lot of mainstream gamers won't see the difference to justify that price hike. The publishers would be shooting themselves in the foot.

 

[Arrogant Menace]

he's been feeding bs all day anyway.

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

The key difference here is that the Nextbox was internally purported to use DDR3 for final retail whilst the PS4 would instead use gddr5.

Sure. At the end of the day all devs that now have the 8GB dev kits will have 9+ months to make use of it. Even the EA guy said they are more ready than ever for the next generation.

Why would you say that?

I was just being silly. Sorry.

 

[ekim]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=48356480&postcount=820

Post doesn't make sense one bit

Oh it makes sense. MS' devkit was more powerful than the Sony one. So devs produced better looking games on Durango so far. So before the release of both consoles, nextbox games will look better in presentations because devs had better hardware with the Durango devkit. After the launch Sony will beat the nextbox because specs of the final ps4 kit are much better than its devkit.