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I found this from the respawn blog post; http://www.respawn.com/news/lets-talk-about-the-xbox-live-cloud/
What is he saying here?
That p2p sucks and we need dedicated servers. Nothing magical.
I found this from the respawn blog post; http://www.respawn.com/news/lets-talk-about-the-xbox-live-cloud/
What is he saying here?
Penello feels consumers will pick a console for the games it offers, rather than for its capabilities on paper.
Thier console will be able to play the big next gen 3rd party games, that's all that matters.
I said exactly the same thing in the rest of my post that you cut out. Pretty much point for point!The point is that everybody with better hardware would publish specs while everybody with inferior hardware wouldn't publish specs, but say something like "doesn't really matter, and look at this, we have cookies" instead.
It has always been that way. Sony would likely do the same as Microsoft if they had inferior specs, and Microsoft would brag about specs if there was anything to brag about. (Hell, they are already bragging with "fucking nothing").
I some ways hes right.
The PS3 was arguably more powerful than the XBox 360, yet the XBox 360 usually had the better version of multi-plat games. A lot of the specs don't matter when in general the consoles are pretty close to one another.
Man xbox 'guys' be like touching parts and stuff man
This is some hilarious PR from MS...one billion transisters, power of the clowd that jumps the power from 10x to 40x etc etc and now say this. Just makes it apparent they have the weaker hardware
The PS4 cloud is for streaming games, the Xbox cloud is for processing game data, so they're two different things with the same name.
He then follows up by saying, "Id rather not even have the conversation, because its not going to matter." and reiterates further that it's "a pointless argument". He's not leaving much room for interpretation by the time he's finished.
"For me, I'd rather not even have the conversation, because it's not going to matter. The box is going to be awesome. The games are going to be awesome."
"I heard this exact same argument last generation and it's a pointless argument, because people are debating things which they don't know about. They're not [head silicon engineer] Nick Baker or [corporate vice president of IEB hardware Todd Holmdahl], and I'm not [lead PS4 architect] Mark Cerny, so why are we having this discussion?"
I need to find where it said that; I thought the Respawn dev mentioned that it was free for them. Can you direct me towards something that states they are charging them? Not denying it; just want to make sure..thanks.
Note the wording here, it's "affordable" not "free".Most importantly to us, Microsoft priced it so that its far more affordable than other hosting options their goal here is to get more awesome games, not to nickel-and-dime developers.
As a matter of fact, they actually go out and they talk about how proud they are about their off-the-shelf parts. Our guysll say, we touched every single component in the box and everything there is tweaked for optimum performance.
Absolutely; getting one for exclusives and Xbox is for exclusives and multi plat titles. I get much more out of my PS3 lately than my xbox.
Not surprised at all.
I am more surprised that Sony is not spending much time talking about PS4's hardware being more powerful than Xbone.
I know it is fun to make fun of Xbox higher ups, but this interview was simply misunderstood or is being spun to fill an agenda.
He says comparing hardware is in some ways meaningless.
Which it is. I think we can all agree that the vast majority of consumers care about the software experiences.
His statements are actually reinforced by all the people pointing out Microsoft's emphasis on tech last gen.
Both the 360 and PS3 ended up selling about even worldwide because they both offered unique experiences, not because Microsoft through out a bunch of numbers in 2005.
Read the article for yourself, don't always trust one person's interpretation.
THIS.Why not just release the figures and be done with it, if it is just meaningless anyway? MS are really looking like a bunch of defensive cowards when they keep going on like this.
What the hell PR is that? Release damn the specs so DF can dissect and do an in depth analysis of the hardware, especially the GPU!
5 million transistors
The problem is that Sony decided to go out and publish a bunch of numbers, which are in some ways meaningless, he said.
I can't believe that he actually said this. It's like a self parody at this point.I feel like our games and experiences are going to be every bit as good, if not better, technically - on top of all the magic we're going to add with the instant switching, and the power of the cloud.
I some ways hes right.
The PS3 was arguably more powerful than the XBox 360, yet the XBox 360 usually had the better version of multi-plat games. A lot of the specs don't matter when in general the consoles are pretty close to one another.
Except wasent it more a case of the 360 versions being better because of specs? Meaning that its specs, and build made it far easier to develop for then the PS3? In this case it would seem that the PS4 will be easier develop for, more powerful, and the cheaper option which could drive the install base quicker then the Xbone.
I was just always under the impression that 360 multiplats were better because they had yo jump through fewer hoops to make the game, and make it run well, not because it was the weaker system.
Word for word my very first thoughtThis is what you say when your specs are weaker.
The problem is that Sony decided to go out and publish a bunch of numbers, which are in some ways meaningless, he said. Because this isnt like 1990, when it was 16-bit versus 32-bit.
Ugh, try saying "Xbox boss" 10 times in a row lol.
I'm pretty sure they've all been brainwashed into drones who only speaketh in thine buzzwords.I can't believe that he actually said this. It's like a self parody at this point.
The saddest part is that their cloud BS seems to be working. I think they took a page out of Herman Cain's 2012 election book. Namely, you don't need to give any detailed information if you have a catchy phrase to toss around. For Cain it was "9/9/9", for Microsoft, it's "infinite power of the cloud."
Sony is doing all the technical talk, but if you look around the net, people are latching onto that cloud shit as though it means something.
If you can partial quote, I can too lolUse the full quote if you're going to quote him lol.
Actually he just declares that he thinks the whole package will be better, not what consumers will choose. Besides, I've already covered this earlier: the "whole package" will also include price, which reflects key hardware decisions.In your first quote fragment he is talking about how the hardware debate isn't going to matter because consumers choose based on the whole package.
Plenty of people involved in the debate would certainly _like_ to know the whole story if only MS would accommodate. Funny that.And in your second quote fragment he says the argument is pointless because those debating don't know the whole story, and he doesn't either.
A lot fewer people chose to buy a PS3 compared to the PS2 while a lot more people decided to buy a 360 than bought the OG Xbox. There's more to that than just the games.And he is right. The same tech debate happened last gen and in the end it was pointless, both consoles sold well because both offered great experiences.
What??? This is from the company that advertised the transistor count of their new console.
He actually said "power of the cloud"????
I some ways hes right.
The PS3 was arguably more powerful than the XBox 360, yet the XBox 360 usually had the better version of multi-plat games. A lot of the specs don't matter when in general the consoles are pretty close to one another.