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TheSameCoin Rumor: DriveClub delayed till 2014

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SSReborn

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Had MS been on top of their game this year, this would have been devastating.

I mean, it sucks, but I'm more worried about the PS4s 2014 exclusive line up. Infamous, the order, and now driveclub aren't quite enough imo. I really hope they have some big stuff planned for the VGAs

You have potentially 3 games announced for 2014 and it hasn't even begun yet. I wouldn't be too worried.
 

TechnicPuppet

Nothing! I said nothing!
I don't think Sony is lying. They have a massive number of studios unaccounted for. Yes, I do think easily Sony will have close to the 20 Sony WWS games from launch til the end of 2014.

However, some may indeed be PSN games. I don't think that somehow qualifiers them to be considered less or something, so I don't know why that would matter.

I don't think there is any chance at all of them launching 18 first party games on the PS4 between what March and November? That's roughly a game every 2 weeks. I would love to be wrong on this.
 

Frumix

Suffering From Success
If we're putting quotes for games like Journey and Flower I dunno what to do anymore

Yeah, there goes my dream about diversified pricing for differently-sized games. Apparently people aren't ready to take you seriously if you don't cost 60 bucks then they call you a sellout on the next turn.
god.
 
more numbers dont mean quality titles...the ps4 does have allot of indies as exclusives in the first year but you would be kidding yourself if every single one turned out to be a good game...indies are great because they are more likely to try something new but because of this they are either hit or miss. ....the rest would be right at home on the apple app store at $1.99 .

im hoping to see some great indie titles but I have only seen maybe 3 that I would pull the trigger on

You'd be kidding yourself if you think that all AAA games are quality as well. So, your statement goes both ways.
 

Amir0x

Banned
more numbers dont mean quality titles...the ps4 does have allot of indies as exclusives in the first year but you would be kidding yourself if every single one turned out to be a good game...indies are great because they are more likely to try something new but because of this they are either hit or miss. ....the rest would be right at home on the apple app store at $1.99 .

im hoping to see some great indie titles but I have only seen maybe 3 that I would pull the trigger on

You're totally arguing with someone other than me. My argument was not a statement about the quality of the indie lineup, it wasn't a statement about what I personally feel about them or anything in your post here really.

My post was purely "Pinball is at PS4 launch. It's a real game. It may be good, it may be bad - doesn't matter. IT must be counted." It was an argument against those trying to say this game or that must not be counted for whatever reason.

ALL games are hit or miss, indies included. I expect like disc games, most will be crap. That goes for all game categories everywhere. Most games are always crap.
 

Corto

Member
I think most are taking the lack of confirmation as a confirmation.

Such a thing spreading on Twitter, forums, etc is toxic. If Sony had confidence that this delay is bogus they would deny it instantly to stop it from spreading. Right now they must be running like chickens with their heads cut off trying to find something to soften the inevitable blow.
 

PureGone

Banned
you know what I love?

For the past few months its been a series of negative news/announcement after another for the xbone, and now we have a bunch of salty people grasping to find something negative to post about the PS4.

If you think Driveclub will have any impact on actual PS4 sales, you are dreaming.

No impact on sales, everything is sold out but it will make people lose confidence in PS exclusives.
 

Baron Aloha

A Shining Example
Honestly, and this is going to sound harsh and selfish... but they should just cancel the game or retool it altogether. I honestly do not care about a racing sim on a Playstation console that isn't Gran Turismo. GT6 is going to keep a lot of folks busy for quite some time. I'd like to see Evolution do what they do best and that's retool the game into more of an arcade style game. We don't have a Ridge Racer and I'd love it if this game could fill that void. Then at least it would have some reason for existing. I know they aren't going pure sim (sounds like they are going the PGR route) but I'd love it if they went full tilt in the arcade direction. That's obviously not happening though. Hopefully the next Motorstorm isn't too far off.
 

LiquidMetal14

hide your water-based mammals
you know what I love?

For the past few months its been a series of negative news/announcement after another for the xbone, and now we have a bunch of salty people grasping to find something negative to post about the PS4.

If you think Driveclub will have any impact on actual PS4 sales, you are dreaming.

You are probably right. I still anticipate it making launch until something is said. Game is looking good but if they need more time I have no problem considering the amount of games I will have at launch plus the following months with the retail and indie rush.
 
Would be a blow to their major title lineup for a next-gen game console, but there are plenty of smaller digital titles to anticipate even if some or all will be on PC and other platforms shortly afterward if they aren't already available. Going by the comments in this thread, though, I'd be a little concerned about indies digital sales if I were Sony since many here don't seem to consider them worth anticipating. This is the only next-gen racer I'm currently thinking about buying because it's looking to straddle that sim and arcade racer divide, something I prefer to play over more serious-minded racers or over-the-top chasers, like the NFS series. Hopefully, if this ends up being true, there will be some kind of playable made available to PS+ subscribers in the meantime. Of course, this means one less full-priced title to buy or another title to pick up instead.
 

Bunta

Fujiwara Tofu Shop
Careful with the insult guys, Xbot and Sony Ponies are bannable offenses as they only serve to insult and flame someone without adding anything to the table.

PS4 launch is looking pretty terrible now there's no denying it.[ If you where one of the guys that wanted Watch Dogs and DriveClub as your go to launch titles (both looks impressive) then you are better off waiting for next year. Next Year is going to be awesome with Titanfall, INfamous and Kinect Sports 3.

Of course there is. There's still plenty of games coming out. The delay is pretty disappointing, but there's still KZ:SF and Knack for larger titles. (yep, I said Knack)
 
I don't think Sony is lying. They have a massive number of studios unaccounted for. Yes, I do think easily Sony will have close to the 20 Sony WWS games from launch til the end of 2014.

However, some may indeed be PSN games. I don't think that somehow qualifiers them to be considered less or something, so I don't know why that would matter.

I don't think they're lying either, and I get the whole games are games thing for most people, but 20 games sounds like spin to me when it's really maybe 7-8 high budget exclusives and the rest PSN/Crossplay style games. If we're talking over 10 big budget exclusives, though... well that's fucking awesome. Regardless, I'm still probably getting one when The Order comes out (possibly sooner if Infamous is that good).
 
This is definitely a huge deal. Anyone downplaying it is being naive at this point. Drive Club is a popular title and was trending highly. Racing games also traditionally do really well at console launches.

I think overall this is great news for the game because every preview I have seen of it has been really underwhelming. If they can make a great game in the time instead of a throwaway launch title then its great for us.

That said its still a huge blow for the launch and leaves it looking very bare. The only option I can see at this point is:

Killzone being the best entry to the series yet
KNACK PS+
Resogun melting eyeballs

If Killzone ends up being great and Knack at least fun its salvageable at that point but if Killzone is mediocre like the 3rd entry its going to be really bad for the launch.

Sony are just lucky MS doesn't have a real killer app going for them either though their launch is undoubtably better now.
 
you know what I love?

For the past few months its been a series of negative news/announcement after another for the xbone, and now we have a bunch of salty people grasping to find something negative to post about the PS4.

If you think Driveclub will have any impact on actual PS4 sales, you are dreaming.

Why can't future PS4 owners be upset that one of their exclusives was delayed? Why does it have to affect PS4 sales?
 

J-Rzez

Member
PS4 launch is looking pretty terrible now there's no denying it.

To be frank, both console's launch line ups are terrible. There's no excuse for this to be the case anymore after all these generations. And there's especially no excuse for Sony to do this. This is their only serious flaw though with anything PS4 related, it could be worse like it is for MS.
 
At the same time, why wait for next year? It's not like the PS4 is going to be any cheaper with a price cut at that point.

I don't really see any incentive to cancel my pre-order. Instead I'll just play Killzone and wait I guess...

No reason not to buy day one. I was talking about the guys that wanted both DriveClub and Watch Dogs as they launch titles. Both look impressive so I'm they thousands of gamers where going with that combo. If you didn't cared about neither of those or where just buying the PS4 in the hope of better games in the future rather than the actual launch then there's no reason to wait. I agree.
 
Such a thing spreading on Twitter, forums, etc is toxic. If Sony had confidence that this delay is bogus they would deny it instantly to stop it from spreading. Right now they must be running like chickens with their heads cut off trying to find something to soften the inevitable blow.

What blow is this to them?
 

LiquidMetal14

hide your water-based mammals
Honestly, and this is going to sound harsh and selfish... but they should just cancel the game or retool it altogether. I honestly do not care about a racing sim on a Playstation console that isn't Gran Turismo. GT6 is going to keep a lot of folks busy for quite some time. I'd like to see Evolution do what they do best and that's retool the game into more of an arcade style game. We don't have a Ridge Racer and I'd love it if this game could fill that void. Then at least it would have some reason for existing. I know they aren't going pure sim (sounds like they are going the PGR route) but I'd love it if they went full tilt in the arcade direction. That's obviously not happening though. Hopefully the next Motorstorm isn't too far off.

The game looks good though. No reason to scrap it. If it needs more time then so be it. There's no lack of games on PS4.
 

Krakn3Dfx

Member
No impact on sales, everything is sold out but it will make people lose confidence in PS exclusives.

Maybe on Gaf, I doubt a 1-2 month delay of a new IP based racing game would even cause a blip outside of the vacuum which is the internet gaming new circuit.

It sucks for Sony, I don't want to take away from the fact that it sucks for people who want it to suck for Sony, it does. At the same time, releasing a glitched up, incomplete game would suck even more.

It names both games and says they're delayed.

The Crew still isn't Driveclub.
 

daman824

Member
You have potentially 3 games announced for 2014 and it hasn't even begun yet. I wouldn't be too worried.
Only problem is that most games are announced over a year before they come out. Basically, if nothing happens at the VGAs, I'm not expecting any heavy hitters next year other than the ones already announced. Which means Infamous in February, and then the order sometime in the later half of the year.

Of course, that means 2015 will be absolutely insane (what I'm guessing). But I still have to sit through 2014. Destiny will help, but it's coming out on almost every console on the market.
 

Amir0x

Banned
Well I do know that. It's the reason I don't fear purchasing their hardware as I know the titles will come. But it's annoying that they can't have some of their AAA games ready at launch. I'm sure end of 2014 will be great. I just wish that Nov 15th 2013 would be great as well.

I get that many don't have gaming PCs so there's all these 3rd party titles they never played before, or on instead of, but it just disappoints me. Especially because KZ isn't high on my list of favorite franchises. Their system mover is GT. Why is there not at least a Prologue there day-1?

Meh, oh well. Maybe the 5th Playstation console will be the charm for them to get this part right...

I mean I get it. I thought when DriveClub was at launch the lineup was fine (I mean I still thought it was lame but I hate all launch lineups, it should be said), because it's simply bad business to have all these exclusives for such a limited audience.

But without DriveClub, the prospects shifted a bit. They still obviously don't require it to do well, there's plenty of games... but it's not what Sony wanted at this eleventh hour.

They have one more AAA game for next year. UC 4 and it should be announced at the VGAS. I can see them announcing maybe two more PSN smaller releases as well. I doubt there'll be much more then that.

And what do you think the vast majority of Sony's first party studios are up to? They actually have 30 PS4 Sony WWS projects as of E3. And many of Sony's first party studios/tewams were finishing up their final PS3 projects and will be moving to full PS4 development shortly.

Exactly what do you think they are all going to be doing? And you don't even need to consider the teams moving off PS3 recently... there's just so many Sony first party studios unaccounted for. The argument would be either

a.) They are working on nothing
b.) You think that despite the fact many have been working on their PS4 projects for up to two years or more by the end of 2014, most of them still won't be ready (remember, PS4 is the easiest console to develop for in this new gen, and is significantly faster dev time versus Sony's immediate predecessor console)?
c.) You think they are working on more PS3 projects?
 
Why are you talking so much about the launch line-ups? I'm not buying a console for the launch line-up, I'm buying the console for the next few years.
I didn't choose the Ps4 because it has the better launch line-up - it hasn't imo. But when I look at Sonys WorldWideStudios I know that I'll be getting vastly superior 1st party support over the next few years.
The Ps4 will probably also have the better versions of multiplattform games and its cheaper.
So, the decision was an easy one for me, even tho I have to say that on launch day the XboxOne probably offers the more exciting games.
 
Honestly, and this is going to sound harsh and selfish... but they should just cancel the game or retool it altogether. I honestly do not care about a racing sim on a Playstation console that isn't Gran Turismo. GT6 is going to keep a lot of folks busy for quite some time. I'd like to see Evolution do what they do best and that's retool the game into more of an arcade style game. We don't have a Ridge Racer and I'd love it if this game could fill that void. Then at least it would have some reason for existing. I know they aren't going pure sim (sounds like they are going the PGR route) but I'd love it if they went full tilt in the arcade direction. That's obviously not happening though. Hopefully the next Motorstorm isn't too far off.
It's not a sim.
 

Papercuts

fired zero bullets in the orphanage.
Like you have a good history...

Oh, really. You really said that to someone.

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

"Ah ohhh...sounds like someones unsure about his pre-order!"
Yeah, if i had a Xbone preordered i would be.

"PS4 lineup is weak, Xbox One has a nice lineup though."

While only having less than half the games the PS4 has and a bunch of current gen to next gen projects that look like utter shit like Ryse

"Which of these indie launch games look "truly awesome" to you?"

Its funny because i bet more than half of those would have better reviews than Crimson Dragon, Ryse and Killer Instinct.

On top of this stuff, you were just in that xbox one thread yesterday about the free dedicated servers saying things like

Either way PS4 versions will have dedis too, and the end player doesnt care that it cost the devs more to bring it to him.

despite saying

Hilarious, now to see how many devs downgrade their PS4 version to please Microsoft and makes things easier for themselves.

Can't wait for that first party tho

on the console power. This is all found within the last 2 pages of your post history, and I don't even care to look more into it.

Now you're in this thread calling people Xbots.
 

Into

Member
Where? Certainly not on PS4.


No where specifically but each platform has something to offer if you like racing games

Xbox One: Forza, NFS
PS3: Gran Turismo 6, NFS
PS4: NFS
Wii U: Mario Kart (early next year)

Its not a risky prediction to say that all those games will score in the 90s or close to it. I dont think Drive Club will ever get near that.
 
No impact on sales, everything is sold out but it will make people lose confidence in PS exclusives.

what are you talking about?

With driveclub being delayed do you think I'm going to lose confidence in GOW, Uncharted, TLOU, Puppeteer and shit ton of other games that were released or are going to be released?

Look at the last couple of years of PS360 life cycle and tell me there is anyone that can touch Sony first party and exclusives...

This is GAF, so we discuss these topics but the average consumer probably never even knew driveclub existed in the first place...
 
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