Not if there's no AA code for that engine. And it won't bring out texture detail etc like 4k downsampling will. :\
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Durante pls: Metal Gear Rising PC won't support higher resolutions than 1080p
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Not if there's no AA code for that engine. And it won't bring out texture detail etc like 4k downsampling will. :\
I think the lack of higher res option is crappy but I would really wait until the game is out or closer to release and see whether there will be official words from the development team.
The game already has resolution options and I would imagine it wouldn't be too hard to implement.
The game already has resolution options and I would imagine it wouldn't be too hard to implement.
Was this already posted?
Jezus christ that is embarrassing.
I think everyone understands that. But as lighthearted as it may be, it can still add some unwanted pressure on Durante to do these things for the community that afaik started as a hobby for a game he wanted to play with an optimal experience.
I'm not him of course so I don't know how he really feels about this. I can only assume how he could feel.
Was this already posted?
Disgusting
Do you have a monitor with a higher resolution than 1080p? If you did, you'd understand. They really don't scale as nicely as televisions.
Finished building it today, $18,000 machine.
i7-4960X, 64GB DDR3 2400Mhz RAM, 4 x GTX780 Ti's, 4 x 512GB Samsung 840 EVOs in RAID, 4 x 3TB HDD, etc etc...
My home PC is more than capable(i7-3930k, 2 x MSI Lighting GTX680s) but hopefully there will be a mod in the future to make 4K doable.
Holy shit man. You are clearly not joking around here.
chickdigger802
Banned
depends. sometimes i take the visual hit because many games don't scale ui, so you have tiny ass text and shit at 1440p+
Finished building it today, $18,000 machine.
i7-4960X, 64GB DDR3 2400Mhz RAM, 4 x GTX780 Ti's, 4 x 512GB Samsung 840 EVOs in RAID, 4 x 3TB HDD, etc etc...
My home PC is more than capable(i7-3930k, 2 x MSI Lighting GTX680s) but hopefully there will be a mod in the future to make 4K doable.
You understand! Haha, non-scaling UIs are the bane of my existence.
Crab Milk Mickey
Member
I do, but most games that came out first on consoles don't have good enough textures to make it look good with or without downsampling. Dark Souls is one of the rare exceptions, despite it being a quickie job.
I'm not even gonna talk about low-res UI's sticking out like a sore thumb either with those very same games.
MutonCommander
Banned
I'm sure he meant that as a joke, but how can he not be embarrassed by the fact that Platinum can't complete a task that a single person routinely does for fun in his spare time?
Even without the texture resolution being up to snuff, scaling 1080p to a 1600p monitor introduces all sorts of ugly blurring. Native resolution is a big improvement even for something like Half-Life 1.
And I'd much rather have a low resolution UI pasted over high resolution 3D rather than forcing everything to be low resolution. Maybe you're not the same. PCs are about options though
PandaPedinte
Member
I think people are overeacting a bit about the tweet I posted, sounds like the guy from Platinum was just making a light hearted joke, of course it doesn't mean they should expect a entusiast fix it, maybe there are more about the resolution limit than they're telling us.
Durante is from Europe.
Durante is from Europe.
Thaumaturgic Tomato
Member
Finished building it today, $18,000 machine.
i7-4960X, 64GB DDR3 2400Mhz RAM, 4 x GTX780 Ti's, 4 x 512GB Samsung 840 EVOs in RAID, 4 x 3TB HDD, etc etc...
My home PC is more than capable(i7-3930k, 2 x MSI Lighting GTX680s) but hopefully there will be a mod in the future to make 4K doable.
Holy poop. How much esram you got in their?
chickdigger802
Banned
indeed, but to be fair many console ports i purposely stick with fxaa or other blurry ones because I know shit ain't pretty all the way over there.
John Rabbit
Banned
i game at 1080p so no worries for me, but this still sucks.
I'm wearing my dunce cap already so please don't beat me too severely, but I thought once upon a time I read something about the brain not being able to perceive frame rates above a certain threshold because of limitations of the eye or something like that.
Am I just making this up? Does anyone know what I am talking about?
Am I just making this up? Does anyone know what I am talking about?
PoweredBySoy
Banned
nm.......... maybe.
This is my expectation and hope.
The game won't support resolutions higher than 1080p, but there will be some weird work around hacky way through editing .ini files or forcing the window larger that will allow users to do more.
I guess hope more than expectation but we'll see.
Also, for those on 1080p, there will likely be a way to force in SSAA, which would probably be even better.
Can I come over and play?
The game won't support resolutions higher than 1080p, but there will be some weird work around hacky way through editing .ini files or forcing the window larger that will allow users to do more.
I guess hope more than expectation but we'll see.
Also, for those on 1080p, there will likely be a way to force in SSAA, which would probably be even better.
Finished building it today, $18,000 machine.
i7-4960X, 64GB DDR3 2400Mhz RAM, 4 x GTX780 Ti's, 4 x 512GB Samsung 840 EVOs in RAID, 4 x 3TB HDD, etc etc...
My home PC is more than capable(i7-3930k, 2 x MSI Lighting GTX680s) but hopefully there will be a mod in the future to make 4K doable.
Can I come over and play?
Well it does have a resolution option, it could just be an oversight that it doesn't have higher resolution options above 1080p, I've seen that with some other games too and you could edit an ini to fix it, so it doesn't really mean they can't do it.
More importantly, that's 4 * 3 GB GDDR5 which is 12 GB GDDR5 or 50% more powerful than a PS4. Amazing.
Danlord
Member
Does anyone else think cynically in these situations that this is some form of guerilla marketing strategy for the game to generate interest and news for the game, that whilst this news isn't as particularly damaging like Dark Souls pre-Durante but enough for discussion?
I just think that there is no way they did so much work to get the game on PC that they'd fail at the easy hurdle of rendering resolution settings, as per what Durante himself said how simple it is under DirectX;
Gaming is getting ever so increasingly frustrating more frequently and the latest tweets are beyond ridiculous. Embarrassing isn't strong enough.
I just think that there is no way they did so much work to get the game on PC that they'd fail at the easy hurdle of rendering resolution settings, as per what Durante himself said how simple it is under DirectX;
Gaming is getting ever so increasingly frustrating more frequently and the latest tweets are beyond ridiculous. Embarrassing isn't strong enough.
MutonCommander
Banned
Fixed.
doesnt work like that. Ram doesnt pool up in SLI. You still have 3gb of video ram available.
I understand that this is Platinum's first entry into the PC universe. However, if you are going to jump into this market, you have to come correct. This market has expectations different than the console market. This is no secret. In fact, that billboard is plastered all over the place as you enter into the PC market highway. In this market, even small Indie developers can get the basics right.
Platinum Games are not dumb. They are filled with creators who have decades of experience. However, whether it is their first time or twentieth time. There is really no excuse.
There is no whining or bitching here. If this is true, this is a failure of expectations. Period. Just like how PS4 gamers now have an expectation of 1080p, PC gamers have long had access to resolutions and framerates far beyond the norm and expect those options. If you can't handle it, that is not our problem. That is your problem. That is Platinum's problem. Perhaps that is a Japanese problem. I don't know. What I do know is that this market is one that can not be ignored anymore. Get with it.
Platinum Games are not dumb. They are filled with creators who have decades of experience. However, whether it is their first time or twentieth time. There is really no excuse.
There is no whining or bitching here. If this is true, this is a failure of expectations. Period. Just like how PS4 gamers now have an expectation of 1080p, PC gamers have long had access to resolutions and framerates far beyond the norm and expect those options. If you can't handle it, that is not our problem. That is your problem. That is Platinum's problem. Perhaps that is a Japanese problem. I don't know. What I do know is that this market is one that can not be ignored anymore. Get with it.
secretanchitman
Member
There is no excuse to support higher resolutions than 1080p. I regularly game at 1920x1200, 2560x1440, and now 2880x1800. I refuse to consider MGR unless there is better resolution support.
It's not a charity, a product that isn't up to standards isn't worth buying at any price.
chickdigger802
Banned
There are studies, but what does that have to do with MGR not supporting higher resolutions ;P
Eh, on the one hand, I get a bit annoyed when games are 60fps locked (I don't run at >1080p, but I do prefer to run at >60fps).
On the other, I think PC gamers have to prove somewhat, to studios that are new to PC land, that they are able to provide enough of a market to warrant developers spending resources on providing bells and whistles beyond standard 1080p / 60fps. So I guess I'm more forgiving than many.
On the other, I think PC gamers have to prove somewhat, to studios that are new to PC land, that they are able to provide enough of a market to warrant developers spending resources on providing bells and whistles beyond standard 1080p / 60fps. So I guess I'm more forgiving than many.
"who needs HD"
CambriaRising
Member
Was this already posted?
Disgusting and pathetic. They truly see us all as cows to be milked. Fuck platinum.
I agree. These are one of the few Japanese developers who are actually enthusiastic about the PC platform, and here we are shitting on them. It's not uncommon for 1440p+ resolutions to not be official supported in games, even for western developed games. It's a stark improvement over stuff like Dark Souls and Deadly Premonition.
Terbinator
Member
MutonCommander
Banned
It's not shitting, it's just so baffling.
Was this already posted?
If Durante were to decide to monetize on such a patch, would Konami/PG be okay with it?
Rhetoric question.
It doesn't really affect me since I only have a 1080p display at home to game on right now, but games really should support higher resolutions and shouldn't expect people like Durante to come along and fix this kind of thing for them.
I'll stick with my recent pre-order since I haven't played MGR yet, but it's getting tiring that games coming from Japanese devs aren't treating these ports well just because the user base in Japan isn't there.
I'll stick with my recent pre-order since I haven't played MGR yet, but it's getting tiring that games coming from Japanese devs aren't treating these ports well just because the user base in Japan isn't there.
TC McQueen
Member
Yeah, I'm pretty sure XCOM: EU tops out at around 1080p unless it does something where it only displays resolutions support by your screen and no one complained about that.
Holy shit you people literally have no sense of humor
Yeah I'd be bummed about not playing the game at higher resolutions (if I were buying the game) but this is really uncalled for.
Robobandit
Member
Most games only display resolutions supported by your video card and display.
Some games have a weird resolution list rather than just asking the computer what resolutions it can support and displaying those.
Crab Milk Mickey
Member
Then... don't scale and use windowed mode. Unless it's suddenly considered abnormal to preserve aspect ratio and all that jazz instead of stretching everything out, including textures that weren't designed for anything above 720p ('cuz consoles). Disgusting. Yes, you won't be using every precious pixel of your monitor, but as long as the performance is up to snuff with a constant 60 fps the end result will be tolerable. Definite room for improvement, but passable. It'd be a lot bigger deal if this was priced at 50 - 60 dollars though and if this was lauded as anything but Platinum Games' first forray into PC gaming, but this isn't the case. Maybe there's some hard-coded limitation we don't know about either because again, console game. Either way: misplaced joke on one side, somewhat immature knee-jerk responses on the other.Even without the texture resolution being up to snuff, scaling 1080p to a 1600p monitor introduces all sorts of ugly blurring. Native resolution is a big improvement even for something like Half-Life 1.
And I'd much rather have a low resolution UI pasted over high resolution 3D rather than forcing everything to be low resolution. Maybe you're not the same. PCs are about options though
Low resolution UI's are the worst however, especially if everything else scales properly. Can't stand Just Cause 2 on PC for that very reason, and I forgot whether a mod fixed this.
I hope you havent bought neither dark souls or deadly premonitions. Those were shitports. Een bioshock infinite, with that awful stuttering.
This one (at least at the moment) has nothing major, that a post release patch from them cant fix.
That's all I need to know. Thanks. PS4 still the king, baby! PC games can't even do more than 1080p.
Felix Lighter
Member
I think that tweet is being taken a little out of context. It absolutely sounds horrible by itself but the employee who made it has also been tweeting about how unacceptable the current situation is and wants official support for higher resolutions. Unfortunately, he's not apparently on the team. He's getting beat up way more than he deserves. He's publicly saying that it should be fixed by Platinum, it shouldn't come down to Durante but if it comes down to that, he wants the guy to get some public recognition for doing what he does. He's on our side but obviously doesn't have the authority to just make it happen.
Yes. Exactly 100% this.
I'm basically saying that the >1080p needs an advocate in Japan and I volunteer.