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[theprodigy]

They have piles of 3DS systems because they are selling lots. Just because a system is well stocked does not mean it isn't selling (see Xbox One).

I think he's trolling Sony fans

 

[benny_a]

But to be fair, if you remove a week (any week) from PS4 sales, it would likely turn things around or at least be a tie.

Any week? If you remove where they sold 0 units because they were all sold out then it wouldn't change a thing.

If your removed the launch week then that would change a lot.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Wii U fucking up the groove lol

 

[Respawn]

Nicely done, Microsoft. Xbox One is off to a great start.

I wouldn't look to much into it.

 

[mugoldeneagle03]

Imagine the sales once titanfall and halo hit the shelves.

Sony has to release something big in 2014, ie a naughty dog game, or else I cant see it keeping up with the x1 in America.

Do you see PS4's in stock anywhere? The only thing Sony needs to do is figure out how to start stocking shelves more. That's it. Those worried about Sony in this thread are hilarious...

Am I also the only one who doesn't think Titanfall won't move as many systems? The game will have a split user base & plenty of people are still buying 360's. Halo on the other hand with a price cut could give MS some major advantage going into the holiday (pending release date). If I were Sony that's what I would be worried about

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

Your rhetoric being that something not being "good" is equivocally "bad." That's what you're trying to say without saying it's a poor showing outright. The 3DS could be down YoY and still be relatively healthy.

I'm not saying it's good or bad. I don't think 3DS situation is a binary one, and looking at the numbers 1 million indicates that the system is still selling at a decent rate. But looking at the mayor picture, there are symptons, not only regarding 3DS but the general handheld market, in which things dosn't look as bright.

 

[GhostTrick]

A million is bad sales for 3DS. Nintendo handhelds clean up year round, and December is no different. 3DS is consistently performing poorly.

Wow. Poor video game industry is dead then ?

 

[Amir0x]

I think the main problem with handheld this generation is not only that they didn't expected smartphones, but I also think this might have been the generation where handhelds were the most expensive ones.

Yeah, I think Sony (and Nintendo) had to learn that 250-300 is not sustainable for hardware dedicated to gaming. These things need to come out at 169.99 at most and decrease quickly to get the attention of mom and dad who want some device to distract their kids. For gaming dedicated handhelds, you really can't dismiss how powerful that part of the market is.

But overall, I just think the market is moving on from handhelds dedicated to gaming. Most people have smartphones or tablets that do gaming adequately enough for their tastes, since they would not consider themselves "hardcore gamers." I just hope Nintendo can come up with some revolutionary idea to change the trajectory of gaming dedicated handheld hardware...

 

[Randolph Freelander]

You have your view, I have mine. I happen to disagree with this.

You happen to be wrong, but that's OK. 3DS isn't meeting anyone's expectations, even Nintendo's.

 

[NTIETS13A_Superiority]

So, is MS's 3 mil number looking a little iffy now? Or does this news confirm it?

Only iffy thing was stupid claim that xbo was sold-out in most retailers but has been redily available in most of EU (where it has launched) from launch.
Edit: What is the biggest january number console has ever done? Just to see if there any chances of braking records this january.

 

[allan-bh]

PS4 probably will comfortably outsell Xbox One in January because has more people who couldn't buy in 2013.

Xbox One will sell your normal for January.

 

[antitrop]

There is this game made by Kojima studios that has a huge fanbase, its called MGS ground zeroes, heard of it? Plus Diablo 3 expansion will also be launching in March.

MGS games sell well, but aren't quite monster blockbusters. And besides, Ground Zero isn't exactly MGS5.

Diablo III expansion is a wild card, but you're right about that one. I literally forgot it was coming out in March, because Diablo III.

 

[MrCunningham]

To be fair, Sony had a decade of dominance during the PS1/2 days and Microsoft was able to basically destroy Sony when the PS3 first came out.

This is definitely a win for Sony but it's not as big of a win as it could be.

When you take into consideration that the Xbox One is being sold at $100 dollars more than its competition, it is selling surprisingly well. The Xbox brand name still carries a lot of weight in North America. Over the Christmas season, there were a lot more people who I know in real life that bought XBox Ones over the PS4.

 

[Pain]

But to be fair, if you remove a week (any week) from PS4 sales, it would likely turn things around or at least be a tie.

Why would anyone do that? These consoles sale are limited by their supply. If PS4 had launched one week later, it would've had the same sales.

 

[megabytecr]

Comparative brand power of Disney/Pixar's properties probably helped a lot.
In 2012, 5.6M Nintendo handhelds were sold in the US.

In 2013, as the NDS has collapsed, if the 3DS "only" sells a million units in December, ~4.5M handhelds will have been sold.

A million units isn't "bad", but that's not a "good" trend.

Yeah, and 2012 did not had 2 hyped as fuck next gen launches in Nov/Dec. That had to affect someway the 3DS. And the Wii U doing the greater month to date is also very good taking the 2 new twins in consideration.

 

[Curufinwe]

Do you see PS4's in stock anywhere? The only thing Sony needs to do is figure out how to start stocking shelves more. That's it. Those worried about Sony in this thread are hilarious...

I would use the word desperate.

 

[Whipped Spartan]

So what is the stock situation for PS4 gonna be like in the coming months?

Typically console stock is good in January and February post any launch save for OG wii. I am sure if you want one you'll find one. Sony seems to be making more than anyone ever has of a console to date.

 

[Goodacre0081]

We need to enter this:

lol, this is great. the dad should be smiling though

 

[Asd202]

You have your view, I have mine. I happen to disagree with this.

It's true though. 3DS had Pokemon and many more high profile titles and more importently 2DS revision and it went down YOY in December it means 3DS as a system already peaked same thing happend in Japan too. It's not doing bad by any means but it will continue to go down next year most likely.

 

[GhostTrick]

Yeah, I think Sony (and Nintendo) had to learn that 250-300 is not sustainable for hardware dedicated to gaming. These things need to come out at 169.99 at most and decrease quickly to get the attention of mom and dad who want some device to distract their kids. For gaming dedicated handhelds, you really can't dismiss how powerful that part of the market is.

But overall, I just think the market is moving on from handhelds dedicated to gaming. Most people have smartphones or tablets that do gaming adequately enough for their tastes, since they would not consider themselves "hardcore gamers." I just hope Nintendo can come up with some revolutionary idea to change the trajectory of gaming dedicated handheld hardware...

I think that if Nintendo and Sony want that market to stay relevant, they have to feed it until they come with successors. Also, software price.

 

[thepotatoman]

Actually most people saw the Xbox One's December victory coming(me included).
Some people thought XBO wasn't selling because there were so many on shelves. Those of us a little less biased could see that it had a very high chance of outselling PS4 that month. In fact, I fully expect Xbox One to win January as well. Sony still hasn't sorted out its supply issues. I guess that's the downside for having a console with worldwide appeal.

Even if Microsoft only shipped the same amount of systems in 2013 as sony shipped PS4s, they still wouldn't have sold out given that they still sold less than the PS4 in the US in 2013.

So I wouldn't oversell these supply issues too much. To this point they still seem to be shipping plenty of units.

 

[Cuburt]

I guess we have to hold off on euthanizing the Wii U.

It's like a really sick pet, you almost hate to see it doing better because you know it's going to die horribly soon anyway. You just want resolution, whatever it may be.

It always comes back to the resolution. ;P
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Wii-U-Has-More-Next-Gen-1080p-60fps-Games-Than-Xbox-One-PS4-59924.html

 

[Riki]

lol, this is great. the dad should be smiling though

I think it's more of a "Yes, yes. I see now." kind of look.

 

[Somnia]

The PS4 being out of stock everywhere helped MS with the X1. Let's see how sells continue once PS4s are readily available at retail. Took another trip today, still no PS4s, but of course they had X1s on the shelf.

I took a trip today too. All 4 gamestops had both systems in. WalMart had systems in and so did Target.

Ok granted I didn't goto all 4 gamestops, talked to my old assistant manager when I ran one of them and gamestp has had them in for awhile. Stock is still low across the board, but its getting much easier to get a PS4.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

This is where Sony's anemic launch lineup kind of hurt them. They rode through November on hype, but when people were looking at software, Microsoft had three launch exclusives (two of which mostly well-liked by critics) and was already hyping up Titanfall in March.

Sony seems content to twiddle their thumbs until inFamous.

 

[statham]

I wouldn't look to much into it.

hopefully it continues. Titanfall is 2 months away.

 

[chadboban]

We need to enter this:

I love this.

 

[SargerusBR]

There is this game made by Kojima studios that has a huge fanbase, its called MGS ground zeroes, heard of it? Plus Diablo 3 expansion will also be launching in March.

Titanfall will have some very strong competition, so anyone thinking it will destroy everything is spewing hyperbole.

Ground Zeroes will most likely come on 2nd but the recent news about it put many fans on hold( game length for example). Diablo RoS has the fanbase divided so it's a bit of a mystery and Dark Souls II doesn't have enough numbers on its fanbase to compete with TitanFall or MGS.

And if you think i'm hyperboling, there are some posters here on GAF that think SOUTH PARK will be the best selling title of March :lol

 

[kswiston]

I think that if Nintendo and Sony want that market to stay relevant, they have to feed it until they come with successors. Also, software price.

Ya, I blame $40 software for a lot of the damage this generation. When you are competing with $1-5 mobile games, bumping prices up $10 is not the wisest move. At the very least, they could have kept a budget line like they had with Touch Generation. But nope, Nintendo expected people to shell out $30 for stuff like Art Academy when previous titles like that were $19.99 in the DS generation.

 

[Punkster_NY]

So what other countries has MS manage to outsell the PS4 in?

 

[Jonathan28]

Guys, I just got back from the Target near me. They had piles of 3DS systems, but not one Vita in stock. I think things are about to turn around for the Vita. (crosses fingers)

 

[Save 'N Quit]

Pleased to see 3DS at top and PS4 doing good.

Waiting for those Vita numbers seem kinda cruel.

We need to enter this:

Amazing.

 

[donny2112]

NETSCAPE 4 LYFE

:lol

(Speaking as someone who started browsing the internet with Netscape Navigator because that's what was available.)

 

[Pain]

When you take into consideration that the Xbox One is being sold at $100 dollars more than its competition, it is selling surprisingly well. The Xbox brand name still carries a lot of weight in North America. Over the Christmas season, there were a lot more people who I know in real life that bought XBox Ones over the PS4.

None of my friends/family bought an Xbox One. Only 1 of my cousins got a PS4 for Christmas.

These consoles will sell millions and millions more over the next few years. The war is far from over. Sony has the price advantage. Isn't that how the 360 became so popular? Price and year headstart?

Microsoft has literally no advantage coming into this gen except its exclusives. These exclusives need to be mindblowing if they plan on being #1.

 

[x-Lundz-x]

I told you guys the XB1 would start outselling the PS4. No one believed me.

One month with PS4 having supply issues in the US, and I'll bet the PS4 is only a hair away. See you next month.

 

[Asd202]

So what other countries has MS manage to outsell the PS4 in?

None.

 

[megabytecr]

I think that if Nintendo and Sony want that market to stay relevant, they have to feed it until they come with successors. Also, software price.

That is the most important thing. They need to experiment or find a way to sell the normal game experiences in chunks or come up with more games $5-$15

 

[Somnia]

So what other countries has MS manage to outsell the PS4 in?

Australia?

 

[chubigans]

This is where Sony's anemic launch lineup kind of hurt them. They rode through November on hype, but when people were looking at software, Microsoft had three launch exclusives (two of which mostly well-liked by critics) and was already hyping up Titanfall in March.

Sony seems content to twiddle their thumbs until inFamous.

Alright, now I'm getting confused as to who's joking or not.

 

[zewone]

What's going to outsell it? Dark Souls II has great pull in the hardcore community, but it won't top Titanfall. Infamous? Launching on one console, I don't think so.

METAL GEAR

 

[beast786]

isn't it kind of disappointing and alarming that even with readily stock available on its launch Christmas, XB1 couldn't break 1 million?

 

[shinra-bansho]

Yeah, and 2012 did not had 2 hyped as fuck next gen launches in Nov/Dec. That had to affect someway the 3DS. And the Wii U doing the greater month to date is also very good taking the 2 new twins in consideration.

2012 didn't have a budget SKU launch or Pokemon.

I'm not exactly sure what's left in Nintendo's arsenal to prevent further decline.

 

[GamerJM]

lol, this is great. the dad should be smiling though

Nah, I like it as is. His expression looks like he's expressing semi-anger/confusion at the children, but he also seems interested in the game as well.

 

[Majestad]

The king at the top.

I'm talking obviously about the 3DS.

 

[chadboban]

Why are people cheerleading for corporations.

Tons of various reasons. I myself am just more interested in seeing how the market is doing, not really cheering but more importantly, I'm not rooting for anyone to fail.

 

[ascii42]

So what other countries has MS manage to outsell the PS4 in?

Australia and almost certainly Brazil.

 

[Guymelef]

So what other countries has MS manage to outsell the PS4 in?

Others?
2013: PS4 > XBONE in US

 

[ethomaz]

So what other countries has MS manage to outsell the PS4 in?

My guesses...

US
Australia
Brazil

 

[RedNumberFive]

We need to enter this:

Someone call an ambulance... I can't breathe! Too late... Dead!

 

[donny2112]

Glad it got this one year (definitely won't get another) considering it was the best 3ds year ever.

2011 could've still been higher for 3DS.