Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Remember when people thought Ike and Lucario were flavor of the month characters
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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XI: Where 90% correct equals 100% wrong
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GreenLiquid
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Wait, what's this about Ubisoft posting a second version of the trophy? I don't recall that being a thing at all.
Red Arremer
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Yeah, I'm sure there was no way it was just worded this way by whomever translated the miiverse post.
There's a bunch of Rayman speculation and Sakurai has definitely left the tease out there, but if Rayman exists and is going to be announced before launch, it would most likely be at Gamescom in a few days. Nintendo has announced that they will have a presence there, so just sit tight until then.
MrSaturn99
Member
It was on their Facebook, I believe.
As much as I would like playable Rayman to happen, it ain't happening.
Ah, yes. I had blotted out the side-quest needed to make it from my memory.
Ah, yes. I had blotted out the side-quest needed to make it from my memory.
That's ridicul--
*all of the sudden, every tree outside turns into a giant hockey stick, the streets are replaced with rivers down which lumberjacks travel on rolling logs, and cheese curds and gravy ooze out of the walls*
...Canadians
Just spotted it in SmashGAF IRC. I feel like to post it here because I just do.
Well that's a lot of effort for one shred of a theory...
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Hmm...that'd be a good place since Rayman's really popular in Europe...
I know Gamefreak's Masuda is gonna be there too with an announcement. Probably Pokemon ORAS related, like when he revealed Honedge at that one event in France last year...
Chrom and Zoroak are the new flavors...oh wait...
MiguelMexMIstery
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Didn't saw that Brittany is one Sakurai's personal favorites trophies, huh.
Wolf was the real flavor of the month all along!
Red Arremer
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I like that Gamescom's grown much bigger and more influental each year, but I don't see them revealing any news for Smash there tbh.
However, there IS Smash Bros. playable there, and they're planning to hold a tournament there for it as well.
However, there IS Smash Bros. playable there, and they're planning to hold a tournament there for it as well.
The Great Gonzales
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That business about the possessive is a red herring anyway. They're both possessives; "Rayman's trophy" and "the trophy of Rayman" are interchangeable, thus signifying nothing. We can still talk about "Wonder Red's trophy" without implying that he's on the roster.
Do you mean to imply that the Goron race was anything other than the greatest minigame in Zelda history?
Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
But Phosphora isn't just a trophy
Oh, cool, I didn't know Masuda was going to be there. Now you have my attention! When is this event?
He'll probably unveil a new Mega Evolution. :-O
Maybe it'll be:
- Mega Shiftry
or
- Mega Milotic
or
- Mega Flygon
or
- Mega Salamence
I could see any of those four getting Megas.
He'll soon be loose.
Around Gamescom, I'd say there's a possibility. But at Gamescom? Nah. They only reveal character during streamed pre-made online videos, or behind closed doors. Not once for Smash 4 have they revealed characters during a public event, even if the opportunity seemed great for it (such as revealing Pac-man just a few hours after the invitational and revealing Lucina/Falcon/Robin a day after EVO).
No Sakurai hype, no news.
MiguelMexMIstery
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Hopefully Wonder Red ends up being an Assist Trophy too.
Red Arremer
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Wasn't Wii Fit Trainer revealed at the show floor of E3?
Yes. As I pointed out in the part you didn't quote, there's nothing to suggest Rayman is actually playable.
Oh, cool, I didn't know Masuda was going to be there. Now you have my attention! When is this event?
He'll probably unveil a new Mega Evolution. :-O
Maybe it'll be:
I could see any of those four getting Megas.
We're getting Mega Crawdaunt.
Because I want him plz Masudan-San
E3's not a public event, it's mostly for journalists, people with jobs in the industry, and celebrities that feel like showing up. Gamescom, on the other hand, is open for everyone.
That'd be awesome. Not Mega Castform levels of awesome, but still pretty awesome.
Mega Wailord. Just imagine how big it could be.
Just spotted it in SmashGAF IRC. I feel like to post it here because I just do.
Coincidentally enough the top half of this image is the same argument used for Ridley
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Coincidentally enough the top half of this image is the same argument used for Ridley
If rayman miraculously makes it in, I hope he's DLC so I can not buy him.
Mah bruthas
I wanted Playable Zekrom. ;____;
I knew the chance was negligible, but damn it would have been awesome.
Yes.
Just spotted it in SmashGAF IRC. I feel like to post it here because I just do.
Don't get my hopes up ;_;
Why would you prefer to not have a bonus character included in the base price of the game and instead prefer it as DLC so you can, I assume, spitefully not purchase it?
JStein0222
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Right? I'd love Rayman to be playable, potential main even!
Red Arremer
Member
Coincidentally enough the top half of this image is the same argument used for Ridley
Can you tell me when they showed Ridley's trophy, or him actually acting as a stage hazard, and outright said that he would not be playable? Because that shadow of his in the Smash Direct wasn't really, y'know, all that conclusive.
JStein0222
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Coincidentally enough the top half of this image is the same argument used for Ridley
I tend to think that's because it's just not that terrible of an argument
Devs/publishers send resources for most characters in Smash, often including models.
Actually, come to think of it, there's models of Plusle & Minun and Mewtwo from other games as trophies in Brawl, despite them being intended to be playable.
Exactly. Sakurai said that Ubisoft modeled Rayman's trophy. If Rayman was a playable character, Sakurai's team would've modeled him since they need him to function a certain way.
If you look through most of the trophies in Melee / Brawl, you can tell they are straight model rips from other games. It's very obvious that Sakurai / Sora aren't making all the models themselves, perhaps modifying them so they don't chug the framerate (although that is tough to do in a model viewer), but certainly not generating the vast majority of it.
The stickers in Brawl are even more egregious of doing this. Most of that is just scanned concept / marketing art.
Yeah. For playable characters they would want full control of the model. For a static trophy, sure, they can just put that right in there no problem.
Masked Man
I said wow
And I have the translations!
Little Mac:
- Neutral Special: Straight Lunge - charge to build power and release to dash forward while attacking, protected with super armor while charging and when performing the attack
- Custom Neutral 1: Firespin Lunge - envelops opponent in flames while lunging forward, charges quickly but is relatively weak
- Custom Neutral 2: Shock Lunge - fully-charged punch will stun opponents, travels great distance but Mac will flinch if hit while attacking
- Neutral Special FInisher: KO Uppercut - build KO gauge by attacking opponents and taking damage, able to unleash attack when gauge is full
- Side Special: Jolt Haymaker - hops forward and slams his fist down on the opponent, can leap over some projectiles
- Down Special: Slip Counter - unleashes a counterattack if struck right after performing the move
- Up Special: Rising Uppercut - travels upward while striking the opponent, can also be used as a means of recovery or moving about the stage
- Final Smash: Giga Mac - Mac grows large and receives a considerable power boost
And here's Rosalina & Luma:
- Neutral Special: Luma Shot - fires Luma forward in front of her, charge to increase power and distance traveled
- Side Special: Star Bits - Luma shoots out three star bits directly in front of him/herself, low-power short-range projectile, recommended to try hitting the opponent with all three to maximize potential damage
- Down Special: Gravitational Pull - draws items and projectiles toward her, makes it easy to hoard items, projectiles will hit opponents
- Custom Down 1: Catch & Release - draws opponents close then blows them away, unable to pull in items
- Custom Down 2: Guardian Luma - Luma grows large for a moment to defend Rosalina, Luma is normally small and easily launched
- Up Special: Launch Star - flings herself diagonally upward, does no damage but is helpful when recovering
- Final Smash: Power Star - releases a star above her head that grows large and begins firing shooting stars in all directions, Rosalina is still able to move around and attack for the duration of the move
Noooooooooooooooooo
A lot more of Melee's trophies were original compared to Brawl's. It's really obvious when you go through the gallery, especially with older games.
PadWarrior
Member
And I have the translations!
Little Mac:
- Neutral Special: Straight Lunge - charge to build power and release to dash forward while attacking, protected with super armor while charging and when performing the attack
- Custom Neutral 1: Firespin Lunge - envelops opponent in flames while lunging forward, charges quickly but is relatively weak
- Custom Neutral 2: Shock Lunge - fully-charged punch will stun opponents, travels great distance but Mac will flinch if hit while attacking
- Neutral Special FInisher: KO Uppercut - build KO gauge by attacking opponents and taking damage, able to unleash attack when gauge is full
- Side Special: Jolt Haymaker - hops forward and slams his fist down on the opponent, can leap over some projectiles
- Down Special: Slip Counter - unleashes a counterattack if struck right after performing the move
- Up Special: Rising Uppercut - travels upward while striking the opponent, can also be used as a means of recovery or moving about the stage
- Final Smash: Giga Mac - Mac grows large and receives a considerable power boost
And here's Rosalina & Luma:
- Neutral Special: Luma Shot - fires Luma forward in front of her, charge to increase power and distance traveled
- Side Special: Star Bits - Luma shoots out three star bits directly in front of him/herself, low-power short-range projectile, recommended to try hitting the opponent with all three to maximize potential damage
- Down Special: Gravitational Pull - draws items and projectiles toward her, makes it easy to hoard items, projectiles will hit opponents
- Custom Down 1: Catch & Release - draws opponents close then blows them away, unable to pull in items
- Custom Down 2: Guardian Luma - Luma grows large for a moment to defend Rosalina, Luma is normally small and easily launched
- Up Special: Launch Star - flings herself diagonally upward, does no damage but is helpful when recovering
- Final Smash: Power Star - releases a star above her head that grows large and begins firing shooting stars in all directions, Rosalina is still able to move around and attack for the duration of the move
Noooooooooooooooooo
Thanks again!
And I have the translations!
Little Mac:
- Neutral Special: Straight Lunge - charge to build power and release to dash forward while attacking, protected with super armor while charging and when performing the attack
- Custom Neutral 1: Firespin Lunge - envelops opponent in flames while lunging forward, charges quickly but is relatively weak
- Custom Neutral 2: Shock Lunge - fully-charged punch will stun opponents, travels great distance but Mac will flinch if hit while attacking
- Neutral Special FInisher: KO Uppercut - build KO gauge by attacking opponents and taking damage, able to unleash attack when gauge is full
- Side Special: Jolt Haymaker - hops forward and slams his fist down on the opponent, can leap over some projectiles
- Down Special: Slip Counter - unleashes a counterattack if struck right after performing the move
- Up Special: Rising Uppercut - travels upward while striking the opponent, can also be used as a means of recovery or moving about the stage
- Final Smash: Giga Mac - Mac grows large and receives a considerable power boost
And here's Rosalina & Luma:
- Neutral Special: Luma Shot - fires Luma forward in front of her, charge to increase power and distance traveled
- Side Special: Star Bits - Luma shoots out three star bits directly in front of him/herself, low-power short-range projectile, recommended to try hitting the opponent with all three to maximize potential damage
- Down Special: Gravitational Pull - draws items and projectiles toward her, makes it easy to hoard items, projectiles will hit opponents
- Custom Down 1: Catch & Release - draws opponents close then blows them away, unable to pull in items
- Custom Down 2: Guardian Luma - Luma grows large for a moment to defend Rosalina, Luma is normally small and easily launched
- Up Special: Launch Star - flings herself diagonally upward, does no damage but is helpful when recovering
- Final Smash: Power Star - releases a star above her head that grows large and begins firing shooting stars in all directions, Rosalina is still able to move around and attack for the duration of the move
Noooooooooooooooooo
Thanks for the translations! Weird that custom down 2 seems so different, it's more of a different move than a variation of a previous move. Hopefully more characters are like this.
I always associate interviews ending in (laughs) with Iwata. Michel confirmed for French Iwata.
Cosmic Dreams
Member
wait wat? the drummer from the band Van Halen plays smash? lol
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