georgetheplushie
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I see and hear Giant Punch referred to as "Donkey Punch" more often than any other name.
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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS |OT| It's out in Japan
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astrogamer
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The first two bosses of Returns plus an enemy plus the main villain plus most of the Animal Buddies plus a Kritter and K Rool not enough for you
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
LOL @ dirt pile in the middle of a boardwalk. Awesome shot, though.
:lol It has been like that for long time as I remember. It was weird but I got used to it.
MannyToons
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I wasn't really being genuine with that post to begin with, but I still think Donkey Kong's franchise is hardly repped better than Wario's. They both feel lackluster.
Icelandic_Jazz
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Hmm, is Mushroomy Kingdom 1-2 in the game? Just realized I haven't seen any footage of it. And if it's in does it have an omega version?
The Great Gonzales
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I'm pretty sure you can pocket the bowling ball, too. The rule seems to be: anything that is not constantly connected to the body of a fighter can be pocketed. The bowling ball, the tree, and the sapling pot all leave Villager's hands at some point - thus they can be pocketed.
A Link to the Past
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DK's been a part of Smash in every title though, with at least three stages in every entry up until this game. Tons of trophies, items, and music.
The Bankslammer
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smash bros 3ds doesn't have have kremling with an afro in it
oh shit i haven't even gotten this at all, lemme try messing around and see if it's even in the game
edit: yeah pretty sure it's straight up not in the game
oh shit i haven't even gotten this at all, lemme try messing around and see if it's even in the game
edit: yeah pretty sure it's straight up not in the game
Underground music is there but I haven't seen any footage of it.
MannyToons
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Yeah, but you can't really compare that to Wario who only just joined Smash Bros. in Brawl. It's sensible for DK to have more representation, but I feel that there should be a LOT more than he got in Smash 4 with him having had two new entries to his franchise since Brawl. It's weird to me. You'd think there'd be a new DKC stage on the 3DS version based on perhaps some of the exclusive stages from DKCR:3D, but nope.
Again, not claiming that Wario's level of representation is fine, I just think that an admittedly larger series like DKC should have gotten a bit more. On the topic of Wario, I just wish the Wario Land series could be revived more so than for it to be repped in Smash.
Though it's weird that there doesn't seem to be any Shake It callbacks in 4 despite that game being released during the same year as Brawl. Or is there actually some content from that game that I haven't heard of?
That is.....baffling. I thought it was a PART of the stage :
That music was really good too
SenorArdilla
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WHAMU. WHAMU. WHAMU.
MrSaturn99
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I'll miss MK 1-2, but I suppose there's enough Mario stages as is. Nice bonus that we get the underground theme, though.
Incendiary
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After playing around with the demo some more, does anybody else have trouble using tilt attacks with the 3DS stick? I can reliably do everything else just fine, but I cannot for the life of me consistently do tilt attacks when I want to. Otherwise the 3DS feels great.
PreyingShark
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My ping is so awesome right now.
It's actually just a laptop thing.
You can also gravity squeeze them with Rosalina.
That's good.
My only problem is the up tilt. Either I jump which ends up in an up air attack, or I end up doing a up smash attack. Others like ftilt and dtilt are pretty easy to execute on the 3DS.
theprodigy
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My ping is so awesome right now.
It's actually just a laptop thing.
dude that discussion was like 3 hours ago
VI = what people call Vector Influence. If you're holding the circle pad at some point (I think it may be right as, or right before you're launched, but I'm no expert), you affect how far you're launched.
If you get hit up and want to fly higher, you would be holding up. If you get hit up and want to NOT fly as high, you would be holding down.
I don't know about Rage but I get the impression that fighters with high damage percents do a bit more damage, or maybe a bit more knockback, than they would otherwise.
PreyingShark
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I knowdude that discussion was like 3 hours ago
But I was genuinely shocked for a moment before remembering that my lappy's speshul
Incendiary
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Yeah the up tilt is the primary one I've been using and having trouble with, since I've pretty much been exclusively practicing with Mega Man and he doesn't even have side tilts and his down tilt isn't terribly great. Ah well. Good to know it's not just me.
PreyingShark
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Up-tilt with tap jump on requires a very subtle movement. I can do it though because I used to do this very subtle movement a lot in MK7.
When you get the full game, just disable tilt jump and you'll be fine!
Mega upper is a beast.Megamans utilt is amazingly satisfying to pull off. Keep at it.
Edit: Wait tilt up jump is on in the demo? I don't think I've ever done it accidentally. Guess that's just my Smash muscle memory at work.
SenorArdilla
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Mine's just old.
Villager has some pretty great tools to against edge-guarding. That Lloid Rocket glitch is amazing.
The Great Gonzales
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dude that discussion was like 3 hours ago
His internet is so slow that those posts just loaded for him now.
I'm exclusively practicing Megaman as well. Up tilt is a really good move for KO attack. Just needs practicing with the circle pad as sometimes my thumb slips on the pad lol
Can villager pocket dive kick?
theprodigy
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I got my own bowling ball reflected back at me with Mario's cape one time... that was rough
Previous characters (click to view, Link/DK done by georly)
Falco: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=131325875&postcount=17323
Stealing your format again
Note: NOW UPDATED WITH ACTUAL NAMES AND DESCRIPTIONS
This time it's the Gerudo King, Ganondorf
Who would dare to take up arms against the king of light and shadow...?
Neutral Special 1 (Warlock Punch)
"Channel dark energy into a devastating punch. Difficult to interrupt."
One of the strongest specials in the game, if not THE strongest. Packs a wallop! Now with super armor!
Neutral Special 2 (Warlock Blade)
"Draw a sword and thrust it forward. The blade's tip deals the most damage."
Like the warlock punch, but it sacrifices damage and knockback for range. It's very similar to falcon punch in power. Also, he uses the sword (albeit awkwardly).
Neutral Special 3 (Warlock Thrust)
"A faster, explosive Warlock Punch. Make sure your fist hits home for max damage."
Much much faster chargeup, with an AOE blast in front of him that does less damage and less knockback. Great for racking up damage, but not great for KOing your enemies.
Side Special 1 (Flame Choke)
"Rush forward to grab an enemy. Grabbed enemies will be thrown straight down."
The famous chokeslam from brawl. Dashes to the side, grabs your opponent by the neck/face, and them slams them to the ground without ground bounce. Your opponents can tech-roll out of it, but if they don't know better, you can follow up with a down tilt for decent knockback. If you can predict which way they'll roll, you can usually follow up with something else. If you use it in the air, it spikes them all the way to the ground. If you use it off stage, you both KO (them first!)
Side Special 2 (Flame Wave)
"Dash forward to grab an enemy and blast them into the air into other enemies."
Same as the normal one, but instead of slamming them to the ground, it know causes upward knockback. Can be used as a KO move at roughly 120%+ on some characters. If you use it in the air, it also spikes to the ground, but with MUCH more KO power, since they hit the floor, too.
Side Special 3 (Flame Chain)
"Dash forward and strike enemies repeatedly rather than grab them."
Instead of grabbing the opponent, it now dashes THROUGH the opponent causing multiple hits and next to no knockback. It's really good at piling on damage, so if you don't mean to use the chokeslam as a mechanism to combo into a KO move, then this is a great substitute for % building.
Up Special 1 (Dark Dive)
"Jump up and grab an enemy, and then shock and launch them."
Same as brawl, similar to captain falcon's. This special move has you leap into the air, grabbing any opponent you come into contact with. Once you grab them, you deal extra damage and knock them away a little bit. I'm not particularly a fan of this move, but it's a decent way of racking up percent on your opponent.
Up Special 2 (Dark Fists)
"Punch opponents into the air, and then hit them in midair to send them higher."
This one loses its ability to grab your opponent, but it knocks the opponent upward at the start into (hopefully) a second 'shoryuken' punch at the apex of the move. It has decent knockback, but does less damage than the default. Yes, it's actually connecting in that second picture. That's how large the hitbox is for it.
Up Special 3 (Dark Vault)
"Jump extra high, but you can only grab at the beginning or end of the attack."
This one is weird, it's like the first one, but it stops 1/4 of the way up to do a second jump w/ the same effects. This means that you can't grab your opponent at any point other than at the beginning and the end, but you seem to go higher up. I believe it deals slightly less damage as well, in exchange for the greater height. I need to play around with it more to figure out what other differences there are. Hard to show in pictures, but imagine him doing his up special twice in a row, with the first one only going about 6 feet high. The pictures show the apex of each one, if used from the ground.
Down Special 1 (Wizard's Foot)
"A magic kick that flies straight when on the ground and diagonally down when airborne."
Ganondorf's version of the falcon kick. Slower startup, but more damage and knockback. Can be used as a KO move at higher percentages. If used on the ground it goes about halfway across the stage, horizontally. If used in the air, it comes down diagonally. It does an extra hit once ganondorf lands, in case you miss the kick part in the air. Causes about 12% damage and can KO at above 150% usually. Ganondorf's position does not indicate the trajectory. The visual effects (at an angle) indicate the trajectory.
Down Special 2 (Wizard's Dropkick)
"Jump low into the air before doing the flying kick."
Blue-er flames! If used on the ground, it forces Ganondorf into the air and he comes down at a diagonal. If used in the air, it moves at a wider angle than the default and covers more horizontal distance. Once he lands (even after the kick animation/hitbox is over) the force causes damage and knockback. Does less damage and less knockback, but the incoming angle tends to make it harder to avoid. It also seems to execute a bit faster. Using it in the air seems to have more knockback than on the ground. Again, the visual effects note the trajectory, if it's too hard to see in pictures.
Down Special 3 (Wizard's Assault)
"A faster flying kick that goes through foes. In the air, the kick goes straight down."
This one has a longer startup but it covers more distance. The best part about this one, however, is that if you use it in the air, it spikes straight down, rather than at an angle. The longer startup means it does more knockback than the others. It also covers more distance. Once again, the visual effects indicate trajectory. Ganondorf may be in the same position as he is in the normal one, but if you look at the VFX, you can see it's clearly going more perpendicular to the stage than the normal one.
Final Thoughts
Well, I'm going to use the sword out of principle. It still has the super armor, and it seems easier to hit with. I like all of his side specials, honestly, they each have their place. I think i'll also pick his 3rd up special, as it seems to have better recovery, which is all that matters to me from his up special. His down specials all seem really good, but I like his 3rd one since it allows me to kick straight down. It also covers more ground when used on the ground.
My loadout is probably 2233. Mainly because the normal flame choke is too hard to follow online, so using the one w/ KO potential might be really good.
I bet you're proud of yourself.
I'm ready to play Marth and show all the Lucina players what's up.
Lucina-GAF, prepare yourselves!
Omg this is too good.
Yes, yes I am.
I like most of his. Why up 2, if you don't mind me asking? Seemed harder to hit. Side 3 is fantastic for racking up damage.
Side 3 also seems to eat through shields and smash attacks. Up 2's great because I don't think Ganondorf's Up B has enough knockback or does enough damage in this game to be a good option like it kinda was in Melee/PM, so I think Up 3 is good. It's very situational, but it's really useful if it connects. I just don't think there's any reason to have Up 1 if you have Side 3, because in just about every situation you can use Up 1, you can also use Side 3, and Side 3 will be better.
That being said, I haven't really used Up 3 much, so I donno if there's a good way to use that that i'm unaware of.
Side note, considering you seem to keep getting customs for the same characters I have all the customs for (Ganon, DK), I'm gonna guess your next ones will be Duck Hunt and Wii Fit Trainer
.Icelandic_Jazz
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Can Villager pocket G&W's bucket? We need to figure out the combo that will deal the most damage in one hit. Maybe something like PK Flash > Bucket > Pocket
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