This is actually not a bad way of describing it. It's simpler and more streamlined than even Grimrock though. Really accessible and fun.
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XSEED releasing Brandish: The Dark Revenant on January 13
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This is actually not a bad way of describing it. It's simpler and more streamlined than even Grimrock though. Really accessible and fun.
YuriLowell
Member
any gameplay videos?
Even without PSN access you can still get the game on a PSP with a PC or PS3 using their respective tools/stores.
And still, it's not pointless when the Vita can access it just fine.
YianGaruga
Banned
Thanks I'll look into it a bit more!
According to Sony, it will be available directly from the Vita on the PSN store from day one, and will be fully compatible with both Vita and PSTV from day one.
Also, for those who just skimmed the OP, here's the website (including new trailer): http://www.brandishpsp.com/
Super excited!
-Tom
Ramzastrife
Member
PSP's can still get digital PSP games in other regions, they just have to either use a computer or PS3.
Excellent.
Dark Revenant really isn't deeper than something like Trails in the Sky though. Not in a bad way you understand.
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
Only 5 days, eh? Looks good, I might check it out.
Not yet. Not until we have a release date ironed out. We're still waiting to hear back from several parties on this before we officially announce anything for overseas. Hopefully won't be too much longer, though! (Blame red tape -- it's always that damned red tape...)
-Tom
I think it is pointless because it would have been better to release it as a vita title in this case. The vita is running the code unmodified so I can't see why it would be an issue to just make it a vita title. However since PSP's can in fact actually download said game it's not pointless.
threelights
Member
Yes! It's so close now.
More Falcom games can only be a good thing.
More Falcom games can only be a good thing.
I also don't believe they're going to pull PS3(/PC?) transfer support, so more reason to keep it a PSP title without a proper remaster.
That's not how it works. I don't think it's even strictly allowed by Sony policies to take a PSP game and just release it as a Vita game without making some serious behind-the-scenes programming modifications (not to mention adding trophies!).
Plus, as you said, it would be kind of screwing those who only own PSPs if we released it as a Vita title. Even if you can't directly access the PSN store, you can still buy and download the game on your computer, then transfer it to your PSP from there.
Releasing it as a PSP title means more people get to play and enjoy it, and that's a win in my book!
-Tom
Thanks for the clarification. Looking forward to trying it out.
I'll be honest outside of GAF and even on other forums i don't know a single person with both a PSP and PS3 that would be willing to do something like that. I know this is completely anecdotal evidence but that's the perspective I see it from.
So to me that option may as well not exist because I know no one (and never even heard of such a thing before gaf) who could or would actually use it.
Basically the way I seen it they were releasing it on a system that couldn't actually get it which in my book is pointless. That's the beginning and the end of it. And I have no idea what Sony's policies are but does Xseed really not have the resources to add trophies to a game?
Plenty of people use the PS3 to transfer PSP games. I always did, before I joined GAF as well.
I know other forums where posters do it too. It's super easy and convenient to do. Downloading is much faster.
BomberMouse
Member
I feel like buying this out of principles. But I don't care about it 
I wish there was a way to run PSP games in higher res.
I wish there was a way to run PSP games in higher res.
Right, but that's not my perspective on the subject it's been clarified 100x over that it can be transferred I got that but you have to see where I'm coming from on the matter. People are still arguing with my original statement it seems when I've admitted I was wrong.
There is, but not officially.I feel like buying this out of principles. But I don't care about it
I wish there was a way to run PSP games in higher res.
Ramzastrife
Member
Some games require it to work, so lots of people do transfer them. Even before I joined gaf, that's how I do it. I have never once downloaded a PSP game onto my PSP directly.
They do not. They have no console/handheld programmers on staff, and contract their PC work to Sara.
And alright, I get it can be transferred but I seen it (Not now) as a useless workaround that no one had both the means and the patience to use ( I didn't even know PC transfer existed). I was not considering it as an option with my initial comment
That's crazy IMO. How do they even get into the code to translate it?
Ramzastrife
Member
The Japanese Dev's do the localization programming. It is one of the reasons why Brandish has taken so long, they had to wait for Falcom to do the programming. It is also why we never got Grand Knights History as Vanillaware could not dedicate the time to do the localization programming.
edit: I also prefer transferring because I have much more space on my PS3 or PC than I do on my PSP memory sticks.
I thought you could still open download history?
edit: yeah, it seems like it's still possible
That's interesting.
YianGaruga
Banned
That is what the original announcement said. So you could buy it through the webstore and download it directly through the PSP.
I have not heard from anyone who actually tried it, but the original thread was full of misinformation.
Downloading directly was/is painfully slow for large PSP titles so I always used a PC myself and the PS3 a few times.
PSP minis and things like that I did download directly.
Just dusted off my PSP. Yeah, it's still possible: go to account management -> transaction management -> download history.
You can buy things on the web store and then download them from the download list
It's the standard procedure for me on PS3, since the PS3 store is shit
It's sad to ay this, but I'm happy for this being finally released just because this way XSEED can focus on other projets. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Brandish is not a worthy title at all, but it just doesn't appeal to me. Anyways, I'm glad that people wanting it will finally get it
It's ridiculous to release games that people want?
Disgaeamad
Member
Pretty sure this release was a simple enough affair for them, especially with how little there was to TL and edit.
But, that's the thing. They *can* get it. If you own a PSP, you can play Brandish: The Dark Revenant. Whether or not you can do so without a PC, PS3 or PS4 to transfer it from is irrelevant -- you can't play it without wireless internet even if you do have to access the store directly from a PSP, so it's not like the PSP exists in a vacuum. The system is absolutely dependent on other devices in order to receive digital games, and I don't think there's a soul out there who owns a PSP and has wireless internet access but *doesn't* own at least a PC as well.
And personally, I prefer playing this game on PSP to playing it on Vita (if only because I can use TV-out from my PSP, which I think looks crisper than playing the game via PSTV as well), so if I were a European with a PSP and couldn't use it to play Brandish: The Dark Revenant because the publisher decided it should be a Vita-only title, I'd be *pissed*.
As others have noted, we're a localization studio only. We have no in-house programmers, relying on Sara for PC games and the original developers (or, in the case of Rune Factory 4 EU, a third-party programming house) for all console and handheld coding support.
-Tom
YianGaruga
Banned
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I will be buying this as soon as the store updates.
Yeah, I actually translated the entire game myself on my own time, off the clock. It was a pure labor of love.
-Tom
Yeah, I was wrong. Glad to hear it still works!
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Yeah, I actually translated the entire game myself on my own time, off the clock. It was a pure labor of love.
-Tom
You're the best. ;-;
YianGaruga
Banned
Hearing that makes me a lot more likely to buy the game. I love everything you guys are doingYeah, I actually translated the entire game myself on my own time, off the clock. It was a pure labor of love.
-Tom
coredecepts
Member
Yeah, I actually translated the entire game myself on my own time, off the clock. It was a pure labor of love.
-Tom
Holy crap. I was already buying it anyway, but if I were on the fence, this would tip me over.
But, that's the thing. They *can* get it. If you own a PSP, you can play Brandish: The Dark Revenant. Whether or not you can do so without a PC, PS3 or PS4 to transfer it from is irrelevant -- you can't play it without wireless internet even if you do have to access the store directly from a PSP, so it's not like the PSP exists in a vacuum. The system is absolutely dependent on other devices in order to receive digital games, and I don't think there's a soul out there who owns a PSP and has wireless internet access but *doesn't* own at least a PC as well.
And personally, I prefer playing this game on PSP to playing it on Vita (if only because I can use TV-out from my PSP, which I think looks crisper than playing the game via PSTV as well), so if I were a European with a PSP and couldn't use it to play Brandish: The Dark Revenant because the publisher decided it should be a Vita-only title, I'd be *pissed*.
As others have noted, we're a localization studio only. We have no in-house programmers, relying on Sara for PC games and the original developers (or, in the case of Rune Factory 4 EU, a third-party programming house) for all console and handheld coding support.
-Tom
I completely 100% agree that they can get it and I was wrong. I'm not even sure what I'm arguing to be honest I keep saying the same thing "I get it I was wrong this is why I was wrong" and then people quote me again to argue some more. What I thought and I was wrong was they were releasing it on a system that couldn't get it. That's exactly what I said in the post you quoted. My initial post was under the wrong assumption that there literally no way to get this on a PSP (I wasn't aware of PC transfer) without going through some convoluted method of transferring it from a PS3 which meant the PSP audience was limited to the 5 people who owned both a PSP and PS3 and knew about the transfer method. However I was wrong.
So like i said the way I seen it, which was wrong, is the game was being released for a system that couldn't even really acquire it which is why I thought it should have been just released as a vita title.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, I actually translated the entire game myself on my own time, off the clock. It was a pure labor of love.
-Tom
So what you're saying is, you're charging for a fan translation?
I can't stand for this.
Yeah, I guess I'm in day one.
I think there are more than 5 people who own both a PSP and PS3! In fact, I'm betting the vast majority of PSP owners have both systems. And even if PC transfer weren't an option, I'd hate to be screwed out of my PSP version of the game solely because I'd have to use a PS3 to transfer it and the publisher felt that that would be too inconvenient for me, you know?
But either way, I wasn't trying to make you uncomfortable or anything -- this topic's been moving pretty quickly since it was created, so I keep missing a ton of posts every time I respond. Sorry if it came across as anything other than informative.
Pretty much!
Heheheh...Actually, I must confess, I was (and still am) super-duper proud of my translation work on this game... but like, the DAY it passed Sony master, I discovered that I inadvertently mistranslated one line (not severely, and it's system text rather than dialogue, but it's still noticeable!), and I was SO DISAPPOINTED. This was supposed to be my glorious, perfect translation masterwork! But now I've learned that it has a tiny zit, and I will always see that tiny zit every time I look at it.
Le sigh! I guess this was bound to happen -- just like every time I fly somewhere, I always forget to pack one thing, there will always be that one oversight somewhere. It's the Murphy's Law of localization.
-Tom
Dude, why don't you just admit you were wrong?
Joking. Chill out and get the game. It's really good.
Ramzastrife
Member
Outlandish! Preposterous! Ludicrous! Where is the lynch mob gathering?
Yeah me too!, day one Falcom goodness
OuterLimits
Member
Wonder why the store still works on PSP in NA but nowhere else? Anyway, glad it does as I would prefer downloading it directly to my PSP.