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Zozz · Mar 17, 2009

oh shit no mms for 1st gen :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

donkeymonkey · Mar 17, 2009

Xater said:
For the iPhone 3G :/

And summer is really vague.

I'm now worried about Snow Leopard...

eznark · Mar 17, 2009

Pretty nice update, nothing insanely cool or unexpected, just some obvious shit that should have been in the phone from day 1.

KolosLazar16 · Mar 17, 2009

Q&A Time.

DMeisterJ · Mar 17, 2009

krypt0nian said:
...

Actually, free for iPhone in General, 2G gets gimped though.

Just for clarity.

rezuth · Mar 17, 2009

donkeymonkey said:
I'm now worried about Snow Leopard...

Worried about what?

kathode · Mar 17, 2009

Zozz said:
oh shit no mms for 1st gen :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

NOOOOO.gif

NYR · Mar 17, 2009

Zozz said:
oh shit no mms for 1st gen :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

I guess this was the hold up as to why we had to wait so long.

kkaabboomm · Mar 17, 2009

so the old iphone doesnt get the stereo bluetooth or mms. wow, what a way to dick over the early adopters.

artredis1980 · Mar 17, 2009

Question 1: Where the fuck is flash

Diablohead · Mar 17, 2009

celebi23 said:
booo $9.95 iPod Touch update

Yeah that sucks

but i'll buy it anyway, enough improvements to make it worthwhile for me.

Salmonax · Mar 17, 2009

Zozz said:
oh shit no mms for 1st gen :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Ouch. I refuse to update every gen with Apple. Oh well.

suikodan · Mar 17, 2009

No video support for the camera yet?

donkeymonkey · Mar 17, 2009

rezuth said:
Worried about what?

2010 release date.

Zozz · Mar 17, 2009

kkaabboomm said:
so the old iphone doesnt get the stereo bluetooth or mms. wow, what a way to dick over the early adopters.

So glad I was too poor to get the 1st iPhone

Kabuki Quantum Lover · Mar 17, 2009

Free? For just iPhone users? What about us silly iPod touch owners?

EDIT: Of course, iPod touch owners consistently get the shaft. Absolutely so.

The Main Event · Mar 17, 2009

celebi23 said:
booo $9.95 iPod Touch update

:lol :lol :lol

I'll be first in-line to buy it ;_;

Vyer · Mar 17, 2009

Damn, glad I gots the 3G.

Salmonax said:
Ouch. I refuse to update every gen with Apple. Oh well.

Actually this would be the third generation.

eznark · Mar 17, 2009

artredis1980 said:
Question 1: Where the fuck is flash

Sorry, we feel that is bad for the consumer, because we said so.

Diablohead · Mar 17, 2009

kkaabboomm said:
so the old iphone doesnt get the stereo bluetooth or mms. wow, what a way to dick over the early adopters.

Does the 1st gen iPhone carry the bluetooth hardware?

Oozer3993 · Mar 17, 2009

eznark said:
$10 for touch. Ouch

Fuckin' Apple.

DMeisterJ · Mar 17, 2009

Zozz said:
So glad I was too poor to get the 1st iPhone

Me too! So glad that I waited.

Being an early adopter is hardly ever good for the consumer.

rex64 · Mar 17, 2009

Zozz said:
so wait, we can have our youtube account in the youtube app now?

about time!

Hellsing321 · Mar 17, 2009

typo said:
Free? For just iPhone users? What about us silly iPod touch owners?

Touch owners get love too, but they have to pay.

Salmonax · Mar 17, 2009

Vyer said:
Damn, glad I gots the 3G.

Actually this would be the third generation.

There's a hardware refresh coming out?

NYR · Mar 17, 2009

typo said:
Free? For just iPhone users? What about us silly iPod touch owners?

10 bucks.

Salmonax said:
There's a hardware refresh coming out?

This summer is when they are supposed to announce it. I won't be surprised for some minor tweaks here and there with 3.0 coming on it out of the box. The only thing that has been seen or reported on is a bigger capacity and a matte back...

artredis1980 · Mar 17, 2009

being an early adopter is only good if you sell it the next day on ebay

celebi23 · Mar 17, 2009

Developer site updating now

eznark · Mar 17, 2009

First question: Time Magazine - why did it take so long to get copy and paste?

nice

Zombie James · Mar 17, 2009

Why the fuck do iPod Touch users have to pay for firmware updates? Ridiculous.

kaching · Mar 17, 2009

jts said:
No, by all means the definition of "need" is whatever it takes to sell like cupcakes, so I take that back: it doesn't need copy paste. Heck, it doesn't even "need" a home button, why don't they just put it on the earbuds cord? Sales-wise it wouldn't make much of a difference.

Sell like cupcakes and not perturb most users enough to prevent them from using the device on a regular, ongoing basis. Better?

goodcow · Mar 17, 2009

artredis1980 said:
Question 1: Where the fuck is flash

Do you own a Mac? Then you know how absolutely horrible Flash runs on it. Even on a Core2Duo 2.2 MacBook Pro, watching YouTube will cause the fans to spin up and the CPU to use about 60-70% resources just playing back a Flash video.

Flash's architecture on OSX needs to be completely gutted and re-written for the Mac platform, and by extension, the iPhone.

Until that happens, we're not going to see Flash on the device and I personally am glad. It runs like ass and it needs to be fixed. Period.

Salmonax · Mar 17, 2009

NYR said:
This summer is when they are supposed to announce it. I won't be surprised for some minor tweaks here and there with 3.0 coming on it out of the box.

That works for me. I can live without MMS for a few more months.

KolosLazar16 · Mar 17, 2009

Q: Video is still a blackhole if you visit a website with flash.
A: We have no announcements on Flash today.

goodcow · Mar 17, 2009

_leech_ said:
Why the fuck do iPod Touch users have to pay for firmware updates? Ridiculous.

Sarbanes Oxley.

NYR · Mar 17, 2009

Jason Chen:

Q: Video is still a blackhole if you visit a website with flash.
A: We have no announcements on Flash today.

Oooooooh, "today"....

artredis1980 · Mar 17, 2009

eznark said:
nice

dont fucking tell me they have DRM on Copy and PAste

ckohler · Mar 17, 2009

Goodcow is right. Not to mention that having Flash or Java would circumvent Apple's ability to control the release of applications on the device.

krypt0nian · Mar 17, 2009

11:34
David Chartier: USA Today: Video is still a black hole because of Flash. Is Flash coming at all?
11:34
David Chartier: Schiller says no announcements about Flash today. Forstall says there are plenty of easy workarounds for presenting video, H.264, other encodings that don't need Flash.
11:34
David Chartier: HTTP Streaming is also another option.

All well and good but how many sites have converted to iPhone standards?

Amon37 · Mar 17, 2009

Wow, except for a few things, I wouldn't need to jailbrake after this update.

Costanza · Mar 17, 2009

No app folders/categories? Really Apple? SMH

I'll stay jailbroken thank you very much.

KolosLazar16 · Mar 17, 2009

Costanza said:
No app folders/categories? Really Apple? SMH

I'll stay jailbroken thank you very much.

Spotlight doesn't do the job there?

Nerevar · Mar 17, 2009

goodcow said:
Sarbanes Oxley.

um, what? :lol

you seriously cannot be blaming sox for the fact that ipod touch owners have to pay for a software update.

Zozz · Mar 17, 2009

_leech_ said:
Why the fuck do iPod Touch users have to pay for firmware updates? Ridiculous.

cuz it's not the iPhone awesomeness

DopeyFish · Mar 17, 2009

wow p2p for ipod touch too

Costanza · Mar 17, 2009

chaoticprout said:
Spotlight doesn't do the job there?

Still leaves the actual springboard a cluttered mess.

Xater · Mar 17, 2009

krypt0nian said:
All well and good but how many sites have converted to iPhone standards?

I was thinking the same thing. I guess porn sites hve to adapt now. :lol

NYR · Mar 17, 2009

Costanza said:
I'll stay jailbroken thank you very much.

?

Just update your jailbreak after the update - best of both worlds.

Eggo · Mar 17, 2009

11:28 am Vincent Nguyen: original iPhone won't have MMS support either

Nooo... Apple giveth... and then they taketh away!

krypt0nian · Mar 17, 2009

Costanza said:
No app folders/categories? Really Apple? SMH

I'll stay jailbroken thank you very much.

I think Spotlight may be the solution. They mentioned having 100 apps.

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