Note that he didn't say turn, he said quick response. Responses can entail more than just turning around to elements such as aiming.
Why the fuck are people obsessing over this?
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Splatoon | Review Thread
- Thread starter James Scott
- Start date
Note that he didn't say turn, he said quick response. Responses can entail more than just turning around to elements such as aiming.
Why the fuck are people obsessing over this?
Baron von Loathsome
Member
I say that what should be reviewed right is the content that is already playable. And so do most reviewers, evidently. And they seem to think it's worth buying already. So do many players.
You might disagree with what's available being good enough to purchase, and that's fine. But don't go acting like just because you think it's not enough means that everybody else has to think it's not enough.
Solid Samus
Banned
Note that he didn't say 'difficult', he said 'impossible'.
there aren't that many common adjectives as extreme or as geared toward literal interpretation.
Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
No. Objectively wrong in this case would be that a SINGLE person can aim faster with motion-controls, which has been demonstrated to be true
Well that reviewer's statement was not presented as an objective fact so there's zero problems there.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Oh Nintendo.
Serpens007
Member
I wonder what would be the backlash if a game like Battlefront would have 5 maps and 2 modes only for multiplayer at launch. Or any non-Nintendo game I'm afraid to think.
Anyway, good to read that is a fun game. This got my attention when it was revealed. Now give me Metroid and I'll get a WiiU
Anyway, good to read that is a fun game. This got my attention when it was revealed. Now give me Metroid and I'll get a WiiU
primasaurus
Member
A few more
TheGadgetShow - 5/5 (10/10) http://gadgetshow.channel5.com/gaming/splatoon-review
PocketLint - 5/5 (10/10) http://www.pocket-lint.com/review/1...ink-redible-multiplayer-for-just-a-few-squids
TechnologyTell - 5/5 (10/10) http://www.technologytell.com/gaming/147703/splatoon-review-stuck-on-squids/
TIME - 5/5 (10/10) http://time.com/3896082/splatoon-review/
AlwaysNintendo - 9/10 http://alwaysnintendo.com/splatoon-review-wii-u/
CGMagazine - 9/10 http://www.cgmagonline.com/reviews/splatoon-wii-u-review/
Gamenesia - 9/10 http://www.gamnesia.com/reviews/splatoon-is-one-of-the-most-fun-games-in-years-review#.VWXVtM-qpBc
GameSided - 9/10 http://gamesided.com/2015/05/27/splatoon-review-totally-fresh/
NintendoFeed - 9/10 http://www.nintendofeed.com/2015/05/review-splatoon-wii-u.html
NintendoInsider - 9/10 http://www.nintendo-insider.com/2015/05/27/splatoon-review/
PasteMagazine - 9/10 http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2015/05/-the-very-first-image.html
PureNintendo - 9/10 http://purenintendo.com/2015/05/27/pn-video-review-splatoon/
Ship2Block20 - 9/10 http://s2b20blog.mukyou.com/review-splatoon/
GamingTrend - 90/100 (9/10) http://gamingtrend.com/reviews/splatoon-review/
AttackoftheFanboy - 4.5/5 (9/10) http://attackofthefanboy.com/reviews/splatoon-review/
BGR - 4.5/5 (9/10) http://bgr.com/2015/05/27/splatoon-review/
TheEscapist - 4.5/5 (9/10) http://www.escapistmagazine.com/art...on-Review-Wii-U-s-Kid-Family-Friendly-Shooter
RenoGazetteJournal - 4.5/5 (9/10) http://www.rgj.com/story/life/2015/05/27/splatoon-review-wii-u-technobubble/27999421/
Considering most gamers have hundreds of hours experience with dual analogue controls, and probably only a handful with gyro/motion aiming, most people will be faster with an analogue set up
You can't blame a lot of the gaming population for wanting to go with that over motion, it would have been awful to force people to use motion, though it's fine to have it as a choice for those who want it
But it's still true, there is a set button that lets you turn on a dime ala Resident Evil and sensitivity options, there is no skill gap, which is why we objected to their statements, you're the one trying to act like the actual facts don't matter.
Not saying you can't be more comfortable with them, but to say they flat out don't work is a severe understatement.
James Scott
Banned
I'm heading out for a bit. I'll be back later. DM me any reviews I missed and if anyone can send me a quote from the GT review to add, I'd appreciate it
noted! Will add in a bit
Amiibos are just a tough situation. The whole reason that they are even marketable in the first place is because they can unlock things in games. As just figurines, they're not interesting or fun to buy. On the other hand, the moment you do that, you start making whatever content they unlock extremely expensive and limited.
So far we haven't seen much amiibo content that would be a major part of enjoying the game. In Splatoon, these unlockable challenges seem really tacked on. I suspect they're included simply to help market the game by having a line of figurines to go with it.
I do wish I could try the challenges though, maybe even if I had to pay a small amount for them. I doubt the game content in the amiibos is worth more than $5 across all 3. There's a chance we may see a Splatoon amiibo card pack for that kind of price. I don't think that the content would really cut it as regular DLC though because it's just not that interesting. Amiibos are what make it marketable.
So far we haven't seen much amiibo content that would be a major part of enjoying the game. In Splatoon, these unlockable challenges seem really tacked on. I suspect they're included simply to help market the game by having a line of figurines to go with it.
I do wish I could try the challenges though, maybe even if I had to pay a small amount for them. I doubt the game content in the amiibos is worth more than $5 across all 3. There's a chance we may see a Splatoon amiibo card pack for that kind of price. I don't think that the content would really cut it as regular DLC though because it's just not that interesting. Amiibos are what make it marketable.
GameTrailers: 8.4
Video Review
Splatoon is a great game, that may be outstanding in a few months time. If Nintendo delivers in a big way with the planned free update it could absolutely be a must-have for the system. As it stands Splatoon is a mechanically solid shooter set in a delightful world but just doesn't have enough to it, to truly make it exceptionally.
Video Review
Splatoon is a great game, that may be outstanding in a few months time. If Nintendo delivers in a big way with the planned free update it could absolutely be a must-have for the system. As it stands Splatoon is a mechanically solid shooter set in a delightful world but just doesn't have enough to it, to truly make it exceptionally.
Splatoon has a single player, not PVZ
Skellig Gra
Member
Oh god, its even worse than I was expecting. Do they realize they are writing about video games?
lensoftruth
Member
LOL
test_account
XP-39C²
Well, i think i see your point, but thats why i said in the begining that the reviewer is only talking about him/herself
How fast someone can aim will come down to each person, therefor being a subjective thing. If the reviewer only talks about his/her experience, and feels that its "impossible", then that is not objectively wrong.TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
When Nintendo inevitably releases a trailer or makes mention of some of the scores this game gets, hopefully it will include "Review in Progress", "Score Pending/10".
That'd be fun.
That'd be fun.
Holy fuck, those are some high scores.
OK, let's try something else.
Say the new Uncharted comes out. Someone writes a review about it, gives it a 2 and says "the game is a broken piece of crap as you cannot get pest the first battle because you cannot hit your desired targets."
The reality is that the reviewer is the worst player in history and can't aim for shit.
Would there be "zero problems" here?
Well, i think i see your point, but thats why i said in the begining that the reviewer is only talking about him/herself
Well, what I'm arguing is that it's not SUBJECTIVELY wrong. Objectively, it is
GlamFM
Banned
8.3 is really a 8 but the reviewer really feels good about he game.
8.4 is when you want to give the game a 8.5 but there are some minor things that you really can't justify it.
8.5 is a straight up 8.5, a great game that makes you want more of it.
I'm probably crazy, but those minor differences speak a lot to me in what the reviewer's true feeling is.
This right there is a great example for why I vastly prefer the 1-5 scale GB uses.
Great and expected scores but I'm still not sure if I should spend $80 freaking bucks on this game because videogame prizes here in Mexico increased. It's just ridiculous. The amount of content on launch day seems that is not worth it for the full prize, yet I still have to pay $30 extra dollars in here... Oh well on friday once I'm at the store I'm sure I will end up buying it.
Ohhh that's actually really nice! Kinda lenghty single player then? I like to take my time with games and stuff so this is gud to know.
Ohhh that's actually really nice! Kinda lenghty single player then? I like to take my time with games and stuff so this is gud to know.
When you put it like that...
Papacheeks
Banned
You obviously didn't read the last post I made, with the reviewer talking about the 60$ price tag not being worth the price at the moment.
Other reviewers even Jim Sterling touch on it.
OuterLimits
Member
TIME gave it a 10. Hmm didn't know they did video game reviews.
Scores are already great even with it missing some content. At the end of summer the game will be even more amazing. Can't wait to play it.
Scores are already great even with it missing some content. At the end of summer the game will be even more amazing. Can't wait to play it.
"If we’re actually postmodern, the main way we think about art is pastiche. Fredric Jameson put this rather famously in his despondent diagnosis of our so-called “postmodern condition,” Postmodernism: Or, the Cultural Logic of Late Capitalism."
lmao, just the first paragraph had me begging scrambling for the X. What the actual fuck
Considering how extensive the August content will be and all the other little goodies that will also become available later, does this release not feel a little rushed for the developer? Should have delayed the game till August and release it in full. I agree that the reviews should reflect the game as it is now, which lacks some content. Will become a glorious game in August though!
Again, I think the main difference between these comparisons that lets people give Splatoon slack is its innovative and different gameplay. It's not like any other shooter out there and it defies the genre's pre-conceptions.
If Battlefront comes out with 5 maps and 2 modes (with the promise and evidence of continuing free content), but changes the shooter genre's template to the extent Splatoon does, I'd say that it would deserve the same slack as Splatoon here.
Content may be light, but gameplay alone makes this game a buy. Whether you want to do that now and get content gradually or whether you buy it in August for a potential price-drop/all the content, I think the game will be worth it.
FUCK YEAH. Now where's my BioGamerGirl review?
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Those that have played the demo would die before it released.
At the end of the summer, it's going to be a 11/10 game lol
Baron von Loathsome
Member
I said "most." Not all. The reviewers are touching upon the future, but they're not reviewing that. They're basing their assessments on what's already playable.
Turning=/Response
And for most people yes, there will be a skill gap between the motion and analog controllers.
He used impossible in a subjective manner to describe his experience, one very likely shared by his audience.
You can also take it that he was exaggerating to say that it's very hard in general.
Papacheeks
Banned
And from what I'v seen and read with reviewers, you either like it or you don't, sounds more in line with an Arcade mode in street fighter. Has boss battles, but you don't have to play it, and it's not like it's the focus of the game.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
I read one review that said it was good but limited.
It also only runs in 30 fps and compared to the 60 fps in the other modes, it's a big difference.
I'm glad that mode is in there either way.
You should read it, it's actually a pretty great read on how our needs to have everything spelled out for us, especially in media, makes us adverse to risk.
Giga.de Videoreview (German) (8/10)
Their biggest gripe is the lack of Online Content right now, and the Reviewer thinks it's diappointing that the local Multiplayer is so small compared to other Nintendo Games
Their biggest gripe is the lack of Online Content right now, and the Reviewer thinks it's diappointing that the local Multiplayer is so small compared to other Nintendo Games
I think when you look at the little blurb about the author, it becomes pretty obvious that this review is trying to be a bit more college essay than video game review:
Similar to Hyrule Warriors then? that multiplayer was fun despite being graphically weaker, and I imagine the same holds true for Splatoon as well.
Papacheeks
Banned
And I'm basing my assessment from their reviews and what the overall narrative is from most, is that it lacks content like other games within it's genre for a 60$ purchase.
Corronchilejano
Member
In short: "It's there, but it's really basic and it's definetly not the online multiplayer portion."