Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Where is this the go to insult? I never hear this.
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Anyone else bothered by how calling someone a cuckold became a go-to pejoritive?
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Holy shit. Excuse me?
I don't even know how to respond to that. All I know is you are asking people to research pornography, which sounds like an awful idea.
karmaforgotme
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I think you can make an argument about the racist elements, but I don't let it define the word as a whole. That said how is it sexist?
I have never heard the word 'cuck' used casually. My only experience with the word has been related to looking into the 'swinging lifestyle'. That said if I did hear used caually I would be the same way.
Just curious how did this effect your relationship?
As someone who has experimented in the past with different lifestyles, more power to you for trying it.
entremet
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4chan, YT comments. That's where I've seen it.
So not the prized jewels of the internet lol.
I view the use of "cuck" as one of the many methods in which language is used to attack one's manhood. I don't think the term it's based on originally had racial connotations, but the fact that the meme originated from 4chan makes it impossible to deny that a racial layer exists to it.
I'm not at all bothered by it. Guys are always going to rag on one another.
I'm not at all bothered by it. Guys are always going to rag on one another.
BobbyRobby
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I haven't really encountered this, but I don't see a problem with it.
TwEE-N-Toast
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Like most internet jokes and memes it's getting worn out. Like those emoji floating heads for example.
I never found it particularly funny, but the fact that it's getting some obsessive internet folk worked up is pretty amusing. So I guess I'll support it for the time being.
I never found it particularly funny, but the fact that it's getting some obsessive internet folk worked up is pretty amusing. So I guess I'll support it for the time being.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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"Cuck" is used by paranoid white supremacists who think of women as possessions. This is one of the core elements of the insult. If "your woman" has sex with another man, then you've had your possession stolen by another man and therefore are weak. Considering that black men are usually portrayed as the "bulls", the insult is to mean that you are so weak, you could have "your possessions stolen by an animal."
Words are defined in conversation by how people use them.
And as if by coincidence, 4chan has also become a major gathering place for white supremacists and misogynists.
Sounds more like cuck queen as in queen of the cucks. lol.
Dipshit gamergaters on twitter like to use it.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Go search for "cuckservative" on Twitter and find a non-Nazi using it (other than people mocking or condemning the word).
Do it.
Do it.
Yep. It's also a really good indicator of people who are likely to get banned.
What does this have to do with anything?
The whole "cuck" think exploded on 4chan when its users went on some conspiracy that moot was cheated on by his girlfriend (wasn't true but when has that ever mattered to channers?). This was also just after moot banned GG from 4chan, so there was still a lot of rage about that. So they started calling him a cuck, and the insult just stuck ever since. It is quickly replacing "fag" and "faggots" as the go-to insult on 4chan.
That subreddit that hated on GAF used to refer to GAFfers almost as exclusively as "autists" or "cucks" or "fags" that's the first place I really started seeing this as a ubiquitous insult.
I'm not confused, I know there is such a thing as a "cuckold lifestyle", it's just that that's a very specific subset of the meaning of "cuckold". When Internet Jerks insult people as "cucks" are they all sharing that specific understanding? Surely more than zero of them saw it first as an insult, looked up the term and got the Wikipedia definition "The term cuckold refers to the husband of an adulterous wife." and stopped there. Watching your lover bone is neither necessary nor sufficient to establish cuckoldry.
Given that a big part of participating in 4chan and other Mean Internet circles is maintaining appearance of in-group expertise (ie not being a "newfag" or whatever), there are for sure a ton of people using "cuck" more-or-less totally ignorant of what it does or can mean, whose understanding of it is fractured at best.
It's complicated as an insult because it encapsulates a wide range of behaviors and phenomenon.
Totally. I was asking dude because I'm interested in watching people who subscribe to this kind of thing articulate themselves.
I'm not confused, I know there is such a thing as a "cuckold lifestyle", it's just that that's a very specific subset of the meaning of "cuckold". When Internet Jerks insult people as "cucks" are they all sharing that specific understanding? Surely more than zero of them saw it first as an insult, looked up the term and got the Wikipedia definition "The term cuckold refers to the husband of an adulterous wife." and stopped there. Watching your lover bone is neither necessary nor sufficient to establish cuckoldry.
Given that a big part of participating in 4chan and other Mean Internet circles is maintaining appearance of in-group expertise (ie not being a "newfag" or whatever), there are for sure a ton of people using "cuck" more-or-less totally ignorant of what it does or can mean, whose understanding of it is fractured at best.
It's complicated as an insult because it encapsulates a wide range of behaviors and phenomenon.
Totally. I was asking dude because I'm interested in watching people who subscribe to this kind of thing articulate themselves.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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SMH, we're seriously using freaking 4 Chan? No wonder I've never seen it.
Palette Swap
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There you go, thanks for the steps. I genuinely didn't think to put it into perspective this way because that's a pretty fucked up worldview to hold in 2015 TBH.
Sounds like a Pokemon more than anything else.
BUNTING1243
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Like many insults it boils down to weird masculinity complexes and misogony.
entremet
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4chan is very influential, bud.
karmaforgotme
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Not to say I agree or disagree, but I'm going to have to think about this before forming an opinion.
I've been on Something Awful for over 10 years (not saying you are talking about there), and I don't think I ever heard it used over there. That said there are certain sub-forums I never visit. I might do a search just out of curiosity.
For me? This is similar to a gamer using "rape" in real life to someone who hasn't heard it in used that context. Might not be the best example, but the one that comes to mind now.
My posts have been based on real world individuals who use the term, then there is apparently the internet groups which use it in that manner. If it was used in such a manner with the real world subjects, I'm not sure they would pick up how it's being applied to them in all honesty. At least for now.
I've noticed an upswing in the use of the word as an insult when the extreme racists started using the chan sites. (And considering the POS already on the chans, that's an achievement of sorts) I love it, because any interracial sex pics or videos get these guys going on racist rants about white women letting themselves down, while people are telling them to fuck off they're just here to masturbate.
depths20XX
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The porn is weird. It's always some black "bull" and then the husband is some fat white guy begging the bull dude to shoot his seed in her. Really strange stuff.
have you ever looked at GBS
i think something awful is too 'smart' for shitty meme pejoratives like cuck, haha. they're usually ahead of the curve, in my experience.
Closer Two
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It bothers me every waking second I'm alive. It's a cucktastrophe.
ThisGuy
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Hah!
Shuggananas
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yeah, people use the term seriously for what it means to them, but it becomes overused and basically some people throw it out as a joke because it's ridiculous
like "feminazi" or that kind of shit, I guess ?
karmaforgotme
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I have stayed out of GBS once they stopped having any real rules on that sub-forum. Only time I ever see anything from it is in the Goldmine.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Ok? I'm not claiming it's the new go to insult because some cesspool of a site uses it.
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ItWasMeantToBe19
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Trump supporters on social media constantly use the insult.
theusedversion
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It didn't really. It was simply another outlet at our disposal in regards to sex. It lost its appeal kind of quickly and we didn't really try to do it again. Too much of a hassle because you have to prepare for it and it becomes a big event. I would have been cool with it if she wanted to continue though. It's a weird thing because I didn't experience any jealousy whatsoever but I have experienced jealousy in past relationships. Maybe because it was so open and with nothing to hide. Don't know. Probably explore it more if given the chance.
The real deal stuff is apparently even more freakier. Like husbands renting two hotel rooms next to each other so they can hear their wife's having sex with the 'bull' who'll creampie her.
Then she'll return to hubby next door so he can 'clean' her up with his tongue.
Very grim stuff. But it's obviously a real lifestyle to a lot of people.
The Albatross
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I had never heard of cuckservative until I expanded a tweet by Jonah Goldberg and read a bunch of anti-semites calling him a cuckservative.
I didn't even know what it means.
Coffee Dog
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But it is the new go to insult because 4chan uses it. when something becomes memetic on 4chan the rest of the internet will pick up on it because 4chan has a lot of users and a lot of cross pollination with other site.
karmaforgotme
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Yep you are correct, and thanks for reminding me why I never visit certain sub-forums anymore. Still my daily go to, and I will always be a goon.
brisk tacos
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Cuck doesn't even need to apply to sexual relationships. A person who has their ice cream taken by their sibling could be called a cuck, and it would have nothing at all to do with racism, sexism, or white supremacy. If you're going by just the porn/4chan version, than maybe it has to do with those. But most people aren't using cuck as a way to get their outdated, racist, sexist view points out without saying crazy shit.
Wait, what the fuck?
Why would you call somebody a cuck if they had their ice cream taken? Break that down a little.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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"Someone saying 'fag' doesn't have to with homophobia!"
The full word is "cuckold," which has a specific meaning and has been used for centuries.
Sure, some are ignorant as to the meaning of that word but that's on them. I personally like to understand the meaning of the words I use.
Druz
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You sound incredibly sensitive. Your entire post is explaining, effectively, what an insult sounds like. Insults are a thing you know? You don't get to prevent people from saying things just because it offends you.
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