Sooon
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PlayStation 4 sales (sold-through) hit 30.2 million worldwide
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killing floor 2 ?
Oh right...
3 here (launch unit, 20th anniversary and MGSV special edition)
KurtSloane
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Salt comes in many different forms.
i think they'll have a much wider audience than you're expecting. but i'm also expecting the 'nx' to be multiple form factors playing the same library. so even if the console version sells half what the xbox one does (which would be a damn sight better than what nintendo pulled in this generation), the handheld version will probably make up for the rest. i mean, we've shown this generation that you can sell 10 million mario karts, 3d marios, and pokemons to people. i'd say that's a fair mainstream success in today's market.
This is why I love sales threads. I wonder how many meltdowns we will see this time.
Yh last update was Jan iirc.
All depends on how they will try to pull that one off.
Either they hit it out of the park or they risk creating two separate jack-of-all-trades master-of-none devices that relies way too hard on their multiple form-factor gimmick, forgetting to actually make it a good all-round games console as priority number one.
And still, even if they manage to create a stellar home console. I don't see them even competing if they can't offer the complete library of third-parties that the other two have.
Nintendo's core franchises alone won't do it these days.
Nightengale
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Everything in that list except FFVII is tentatively non-timed, either a PS-exclusive or console-exclusive.
Of course, things can change, but so far it excludes games that were announced as "First on PS4"
The problem with thw NX I expect to see if third party support if the shared library thing is a requirement. Particularly in the west. In Japan it'll be a good thing and you'll get handheld and console versions of games that used to be 3DS only. Kind of like the whole Vita/PS4 thing. Think that will work well with Japanese publisher's.
But in the west? Third party support will be hard to get as it is. However a requirement for a handheld SKU would kill things. Ubisoft may put Assassin's Creed on console NX, but if they have to get it to run on the handheld version as well, they'll probably just bail instead. Same for pretty much all western publisher's.
But in the west? Third party support will be hard to get as it is. However a requirement for a handheld SKU would kill things. Ubisoft may put Assassin's Creed on console NX, but if they have to get it to run on the handheld version as well, they'll probably just bail instead. Same for pretty much all western publisher's.
NHarmonic.
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It still is? i really fail to see it. Specially with most developers shifting to mobile, the low console sales there, etc.
geordiemp
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Agree, and adding to that the move to toys to life which gates on disk content and not embracing the online party coop gaming which is the heart of many mainstream games moves Nintendo target to either very young children or the older existing hardcore fanbase.
Toys to life and a backwards restricted party system in my opinion is a massive negative to many gamers with floating allegiances imo.
Personally I switched from Wii to 360 and then to Ps4, we always have 2 consoles as I play with my son with 2 Tv's and we mainly play online coop games (we dont share screens and do local coop for many years now). 360 won over Wii with its online and party system, and Ps4 won as it now had a good party system and was more capable hardware (Xb1 Ghosts running at 720p killed Xb1 dead to me and all the USA TV crap).
Nintendo have just gone off in a direction which I just dont get , at all. Its easy to see how Ps4 was favoured, they got the online party / friends and playing together right with good hardware design. Its all about third party games and where best to play them with friends online imo
I agree, I feel like the NX will probably remain a "second console system of choice" but with the several form factor, the handled system will be able to put these figures up (my guess is Nintendo will aggregate both versions to look better).
Coming back to the initial subject, it is well deserved for the PS4. It is a great system, and I am much more happier of it than I was of the PS3. Well done Sony!
PodcastFips
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Damn.
Damn!
Damn!
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Not bad for a console with no games.
Newtype-001
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i think they've shown that half of nintendo's effort plus a good share of japanese support can do it these days. the 3ds, admittedly being hit among the hardest in terms of userbase shrinkage from its predecessor, runs counterpoint to the idea that nintendo is unable to create an ecosystem where a mainstream audience wants to buy nintendo games and similar third-party offerings. i do agree that the hardware needs to be the right type of hardware, but the key point of that is the right type of hardware for the right audience. the handheld for example can't be another vita/3ds/psp where the battery life is low and the system itself has an initial asking price of $249.99. the console on the other hand would yeah, need to be comparable to sony's or at least microsoft's offerings. in theory, it wouldn't need to be the only console nintendo offers though.
Neither. The Wii U is doing terrible. It launched a year before the other two consoles.
They sold 4.1m ps4 between November 23rd and January 1st last year so at least 34.3m but they will exceed last year.
Better price, more bundles and new games.
you don't think that japanese developers moving to mobile (and other digital platforms) is relevant to the industry?
Acquiescence
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Just imagine how well it'll start doing once it gets some actual games.
TBiddy
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Has nothing to do with "salt". It's a matter of opinion. It's amazing how much can come of a single sentence these days, by the way.
Japanese games are still finding their way to the consoles and handled.
For the ones jumping to the mobile, well, that is probably a loss that will be filled with other games. It is not like we have a game drought at all.
geordiemp
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My view is that JRPG or turn based games, or even strategy games like say chess are probably just as viable on touch screen based hardware and is a natural move for some developers.
Real time action games will always be at home on console or PC, and for gamers who play COD or Destiny or Fallout 4 for example no I dont think its relevant. The japanese developers who have moved to mobile I dont thik I have played any of their games anyway, except for a couple of Capcom games such as DMC and RE4 and Konami MG. But thats a very short list,
Cross another on the bingo.
KurtSloane
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No you just decided to have a conversation in a console sales thread about how ineffectual SFV as an exclusive will be, citing the fact that in your opinion it's profile is less than The Order, which was " stupendously hyped ".
It's not the quote I had in mind! No cheating!
TBiddy
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If you'd actually read the original post, you'd see that the main point of the post was that 2015 has been a fantastic year for gamers. For some reason that got twisted into, that I'm salty, passive-aggressive and think that The Order 1886 won't be outsold by SFV.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=186718838&postcount=342
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But, I'll leave the thread. There's no point making this thread about me. If anyone wishes to continue the discussion, feel free to PM me.
Wait. He compared the Street Fighter IP to The Order? SF has been around for decades. It's easily recognizable and it's getting plenty of hype and will move more consoles then The Order could dream of.
Prototype Viktor
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where's the "how is it selling this much with such slow speeds"
Sooon
Holy. Shit. I always felt like the PS4 had way more exclusives than the competition but not THIS much. You really appreciate it when you see it all put together in visual form.
Look at all dem Chinese cartoon games.
Sooon
as always
LOL jesus still remember that one haha
Dude, why you don't wanna use the math? Is a good thing some times...
Aniway, Wii U will be at 12.2-12.7 million only by end of year. Is not that hard understand this.
LowEndTorque
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It's not fair that a console with no games sells so much
Stone Ocean
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It took me a good couple minutes to notice he wasn't being crucified lol
geordiemp
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Got 2 360;s and 2 Ps4 hooked up to 2 Tv's. We dont share no blinkin screen.
Thats not why Ps4 sells so well, its because of stuff like below from DF Black ops 3 face off
The console where popular 3rd party games run best is the deciding factor, and MS gimped XB1 hardware with poor choices.
Eien1no1Yami
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Kudos to Sony, btw do we know how many units it sold to Asian countries like China, Japan , Korea e.t.c. so far?
What the heck happened to Deep Down? It seemed like it was far into development years ago
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