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Eurogamer: NX is different, and different is Nintendo's best option.
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Zombie James
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On the other side of the coin, doing what they've been doing hasn't been working out, either.
Baron Doggystyle von Woof
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This is what I'm telling constantly. I hear people asking another PS4 like console from Nintendo but that will fail.
The Wii was a goldmine for Nintendo. Wii U was a bad decision and launch overall.
Dynamite Shikoku
Congratulations, you really deserve it!
they need something cheap and fun
MatrixMan.EXE
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Nailed it. Something that I don't think Nintendo has quite been able to comprehend just yet.
Nah. No one has ever suggested this.
J_ToSaveTheDay
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There's still a part of me that hopes to see third-party parity on a Nintendo home console again, but I don't disagree that going the different route at this time in a console cycle is the best option. PS4 and Xbox One have slightly different output in terms of general output performance but essentially perform the same exact tasks and feature largely overlapping software libraries with very similar service capabilities.
I'm excited to see what we ultimately get with the NX, even if it isn't quite exactly what I was hoping for. I'd just hope that the other tech besides just the Tegra X1 that's in is well constructed and ergonomically sound -- i.e. full analog sticks, not the little circle pads from the 3DS, multitouch touchscreen (if it even has a touchscreen), full audio output via 3.5mm jack, and hopefully Nintendo actually has contemporary digital licensing and ownership model with a unified account ready at launch.
I'm excited to see what we ultimately get with the NX, even if it isn't quite exactly what I was hoping for. I'd just hope that the other tech besides just the Tegra X1 that's in is well constructed and ergonomically sound -- i.e. full analog sticks, not the little circle pads from the 3DS, multitouch touchscreen (if it even has a touchscreen), full audio output via 3.5mm jack, and hopefully Nintendo actually has contemporary digital licensing and ownership model with a unified account ready at launch.
CrunchyFrog
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How so? The Wii U was really their only objective misstep since the GC. The 3DS is by no means a failure, especially considering how poorly the market treated the Vita (which if anything is proof of exactly what this article is going for).
NoctisVsStar
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I'm sad Nintendo doesn't want to compete with the big boys but Godspeed to them.
Oppo
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where is that Joan smoking gif that Shumway is always throwing out
Zombie James
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I'm just saying Nintendo's stuck between a rock and a hard place. They (supposedly) can't compete with Sony and MS directly but at the same time being cheap and different didn't help them at all with the Wii U. Being cheap and different isn't enough.
thankfully it seems like we're getting both this go around
seems like we're getting a beast of a handheld and all of Nintendo's software output under one roof. that alone has me satiated and we don't know the full story yet.
seems like this was a controlled leak and that intrigues me because if it was then Nintendo is strategically setting expectations at a certain level probably with the intention of surpassing them when they officially reveal what the NX is.
Stumpokapow
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The Wii was a goldmine for Nintendo. Wii U was a bad decision and launch overall.
The Wii launched in a world without smartphones, or digital distribution, or streaming video, or... At some point pointing to the Wii as proof positive that Nintendo has their shit together is like the guy at the used car dealership talking about how he was a high school quarterback and prom king.
That would be so boring though. There would be nothing that makes them special or unique. The legacy of Nintendo is better than that.
NoctisVsStar
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Savage.
It makes them boring in my eyes but everyone has their own set of expectations from Nintendo. To some it's awesome, to others it's safe or boring. But wish them the best ultimately I'm not the audience they're chasing. I just feel Nintendo lives off nostalgia a it at times when it comes to IP's.
I mean if you want to read it like that go ahead.
Baron Doggystyle von Woof
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What has smartphones to do with a home console?
My point is that Nintendo has the capability to pull it off again. Another PS4/X1 is definitely gonna fail.
Technically, but you're in denial if you think there's a chance of it being untrue. Everyone is corroborating it, including WSJ which has a 100% track record as far as I know.
Zombie James
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And here I was thinking it was their games that made Nintendo special and unique.
Brutal.
Napalm_Frank
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If there isn't multiple SKU's NX is not a home console, it's a portable. Smartphones have a lil to do with the current handheld market.
As for the Wii era there wasn't much competition for casual focus in the gaming market.
Always-honest
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I agree. They need to come with something great though.
Would be amazing if they succeed.
Let Sony and Microsoft fight the expensive AAA multiplat console war.
Would be amazing if they succeed.
Let Sony and Microsoft fight the expensive AAA multiplat console war.
It would fail, and it would be pointless. We already have two of those types of consoles, and that is plenty. We need that 3rd option that is willing to get weird.
However, I actually don't see NX as being different enough from what's being described. It sounds like a standard handheld with an extra output option. I don't really picture it selling more than 3DS, since the dedicated handheld market is not really positioned for growth right now. If you consider NX a home console, then sure selling say, 35-40m, would be a great boost over Wii U, but there are no handheld numbers to add to that. NX is all or nothing, unless there's another SKU we don't know about.
Gotdatmoney
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The days of nintendo releasing powerful graphically advanced hardware is over. Their market was filled by Microsoft. They could fight with 2 giants and hope they release the better product for the 16-35 year old male crowd (despite their products being aimed at mass market everyone/younger demographic) or they can differentiate themselves and hope to attract something other than the traditional player.
If you want Nintendo to drop everything and wow you with some PS4+ spec machine, I hope you like disappointment. There is no market for a traditional Nintendo system.
If you want Nintendo to drop everything and wow you with some PS4+ spec machine, I hope you like disappointment. There is no market for a traditional Nintendo system.
LordRaptor
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There was a point where the Wii was the most used device accessing Netflix though.
Well, if being different won't work, and being the same won't work, what's left? Also, Wii didn't predate streaming video lol. Or even digital distribution technically.
Not to mention, the GB-SNES Super Game Boy and the N64's connectivity with GBC with games like Pokémon Stadium and Mario Tennis, via the Transfer Pak.
Meh @ this. Wii U is already plenty graphically shiny and this is slated to look even better. Not to mention, going third party for Nintendo surely would mean a loss of diversity of games.
That's just it. Wii U was not cheap and wasn't different in a way the market cared about. It had an underutilized tablet controller, in the end making it inferior to Sony and Microsoft options.
But they had the right idea once. Now obviously it won't work. They need to get out an idea that has appeal. (Not exactly sure a handheld that plugs on a TV is that, but we'll see when it's officially revealed.)
while i agree they do need to do something different to stand out, i'm not sure it should be at the complete expense of say...third party support. if all we're going to get...YET AGAIN...is a nintendo box, that plays nintendo made games...then as far as i'm concerned it has already failed.
you can offer novelty while still bringing in the people who want to play FIFA, COD and GTA. they're not mutually exclusive things.
all i know is if little billy sees that he can't play the latest and greatest in third party releases on nintendo's new system, regardless of the novelty of being a hybrid system, then he won't want one.
again nintendo will have a console that's only going to be bought by the die hard nintendo fans. but maybe that's all they want.
you can offer novelty while still bringing in the people who want to play FIFA, COD and GTA. they're not mutually exclusive things.
all i know is if little billy sees that he can't play the latest and greatest in third party releases on nintendo's new system, regardless of the novelty of being a hybrid system, then he won't want one.
again nintendo will have a console that's only going to be bought by the die hard nintendo fans. but maybe that's all they want.
That's an interesting idea. Perhaps you should go to their next investor meeting and ask them if they have thought of it.
Congrats on being the first hysterical Nintendo fan to try and derail the thread by throwing out "Nintendo is doomed!" when no one is saying that.
past tense.
GregLombardi
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SO this. Ive been watching Nintendo for decades. Their philosophies and brilliance IS what led to the Wii moment, but it was simply the luck of those philosophies crossig the stream of the market need at exactly the right time that made the system so successful. It is abundantly clear there was no master plan since, given the Wii U its clear they had no real idea why they succeeded in the first place.
Wii was revolutionary and it changed the world (kind of like Pokemon Ingress is doing), and they deserve credit for that. But they continue to miss some forests through the trees so I really like your metaphor.
Perfect Blue
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I am so down for something different. Just show us the damn thing now, please.
SilverLunar
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The industry doesn't have space for 3 platform holders in my opinion (4 if you count PC, since mobile doesn't really share their library).
If you see the mobile space, Android and ios share the market very well, but any other market like Windows phone is dead.
One of the 3 will bailout of the home console market, I wished it was Microsoft but alas.
If you see the mobile space, Android and ios share the market very well, but any other market like Windows phone is dead.
One of the 3 will bailout of the home console market, I wished it was Microsoft but alas.
They're a lot smaller and have their hands in far fewer pies. They have less tools at their disposal and much more to lose in a direct fight.
Good article on the whole.
If Nintendo can execute and has a dozen decent games a year for the thing plus good indie suppport, I think this could be viable.
The real question in my mind is whether it'll be small enough to play on a bus or a train inconspicuously. If not, then it may sit awkwardly where the tablet market does: either too big to be mobile or too small/weak to be the centerpiece at home.
But as somebody who travels a lot on business this seems pretty cool
If Nintendo can execute and has a dozen decent games a year for the thing plus good indie suppport, I think this could be viable.
The real question in my mind is whether it'll be small enough to play on a bus or a train inconspicuously. If not, then it may sit awkwardly where the tablet market does: either too big to be mobile or too small/weak to be the centerpiece at home.
But as somebody who travels a lot on business this seems pretty cool
Simply making a powerhouse console won't bring those games.
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