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TechRaptor: Nintendo DMCAs Game Jolt, Takes Down 500+ Fangames
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Raonak
Banned
As a creator of a fangame myself, this is hugely frustrating...
But if anyone wants to play a Gen2 based Pokemon game which borrows heavily from Final Fantasy 8.
check this out: Super Pokemon Eevee Edition
But if anyone wants to play a Gen2 based Pokemon game which borrows heavily from Final Fantasy 8.
check this out: Super Pokemon Eevee Edition
BassForever
Member
What meaningful fan games were taken down? 99% of the time I try out these flash fan games they're all fairly terrible largely lazy asset flips or terrible new assets.
Vbrasa
Member
I highly doubt you were actually going to get one and are just using this as a way to get other people to join on your little bandwagon.
Eolz
Member
Curation was probably the wrong word, sorry about that.
What I meant was that nobody would mind if they were doing it to the poor porn games, parodies, clones, dangerous competitors, etc. It really wouldn't cost them much (if anything) to just see first what they are shutting down.
Obviously those games won't disappear, but letting kind of live those that are harmless will give them some small good will in the community, whereas shutting down everything just make them get an even worse reputation than if they weren't doing anything.
Even more surprising is that they're not really killing what is really hurting them, stuff on mobile marketplaces like clones, stolen assets, emulators, etc.
Jacksinthe
Banned
How DARE Nintendo protect their IPs! Those corporate rich assholes steal our games!
I wonder if you can squat an IP like you can a house... Hmmmm
I wonder if you can squat an IP like you can a house... Hmmmm
The people making it say they have a contingency plan in case they do get hit with a C&D. Probably meaning alter sprites and change the name to something else.
Nobody really cares, the game's not ever coming out anyways.
The only 2 complete Mario RPG fan games were among them. One was a smaller, 10 hour game and the other was a typical JRPG sized 30 hour one.
Don't think there is anyway to get rid of those.
I'll put it this way. Many "games" on gamejolt are "made" by people who find cool deviant art and announce they're making a "game". They're most definitely fans with nothing else than their love of the game to imply they can actually make the game.
Secret Fawful
Member
Yeah, those were the first games I went to check on. :/
This is a nightmare for fangames.
Then why not just do that instead of calling it "Mother 4"? At least with the second option they can at least sell it.
maquiladora
Member
Yeah a consumer is going to go to the Game Jolt website, then click into the fangames section, see this and mistake it for the "real thing"?
As a creator of a fangame myself, this is hugely frustrating...
But if anyone wants to play a Gen2 based Pokemon game which borrows heavily from Final Fantasy 8.
check this out: Super Pokemon Eevee Edition
I'll have to check out the updates, downloaded this a couple years back but it was still pretty incomplete at the time
BluePikmin11
Member
TBH, after thinking about it a while, I don't think Nintendo minds MOTHER 4. Itoi already says fans can make one, so it shouldn't be fair to take down MOTHER 4 last minute.
SatoAilDarko
Member
I mean you're making a game with their IP.
With mobile games, there is a greater want of people for free stuff.
If they can play these fan games they could feel no need to get the actual product.
With mobile games, there is a greater want of people for free stuff.
If they can play these fan games they could feel no need to get the actual product.
They haven't been ruthless until recently. If anything, people should see it as "Well, the party's over".
Pretty much....
I'm not surprised your the one coming up with bad analogies. Nintendo has the right to take these down but they weren't harming anything. It's a shitty move for Nintendo to do either way.
maquiladora
Member
Eolz
Member
That's what happened to AM2R.
Wouldn't be surprised to see Nintendo take it down the day after it's out as well.
lol bruh come on
CrAzY FiNgErS
Member
Continued shrinking market share and losing money left and right. It's the digital age and they are trying to get rid of almost any evidence of unofficial games, as to try to "protect their intellectual property" and gain market share through official means.
They have a right to do this, but they are going about it the wrong way imo.
The only copyrighted part of Mother 4 is the title. They'll rename it something else and they'll be fine.
Theanine3D
Member
GameJolt lets developers receive a portion of the ad revenue from their game.
http://gamejolt.com/developers/ad-sharing
Dunno why people are automatically assuming all of those 500+ fangame creators were completely innocent. They may very well have been making money off Nintendo IP, in which case, Nintendo was fully in the right to do what they did.
There's nothing about protecting IPs about this.
Will I? Do you have some future prediction skills? That's amazing I dunno what you're doing here instead of using that gift for good.
Then why do you think they're doing this?
And if your answer is "Because they're dicks", stop and think really hard about how silly that sounds.
It's about the Skrilla dude.
Starwolf_UK
Member
Nintendo is just getting ready to stomp on the competition...
I'm just wondering when they will come after [name withheld to protect identity] as I always used that one in the past when I was like "Nintendo taking down fangames? I mean they've not taken down [name withheld to protect identity] in over ** years of it existing".
Anyway, a full, awfully formatted list of the removed games is included in the github link you can find in the article linked in the OP. I mean there are some turds in there such as super-mario-bros-on-meth-and-weed and pokemon-emerald-dirty-version...when you are DCMAing those kinds of thing you're really risking a soft of Streisand effect especially as I think this might be the first time Game Jolt has been mentioned on GAF...
I'm just wondering when they will come after [name withheld to protect identity] as I always used that one in the past when I was like "Nintendo taking down fangames? I mean they've not taken down [name withheld to protect identity] in over ** years of it existing".
Anyway, a full, awfully formatted list of the removed games is included in the github link you can find in the article linked in the OP. I mean there are some turds in there such as super-mario-bros-on-meth-and-weed and pokemon-emerald-dirty-version...when you are DCMAing those kinds of thing you're really risking a soft of Streisand effect especially as I think this might be the first time Game Jolt has been mentioned on GAF...
Yeah, fuck Nintendo, they do this just to bully gamejolt. Fucking lol.
Some people just wanna hate on Nintendo, no matter what they do.
Maintenance
Member
Recently? Since they started with that youtube crackdown it was pretty clear things would go this way, and that was quite some time ago.
As someone who has worked on and released several fan games over the years, I understand why they're doing this and think it is fine. It is well within their rights, and most fan game makers accept the risk that comes with the territory.
Nintendo doing nothing does create some goodwill, true, but there is some risk on their part of letting their IP's be used like this.
Yeah I'm bummed about having to find a new host (if I do decide to reupload) but I'm not about to get mad at Nintendo.
Nintendo doing nothing does create some goodwill, true, but there is some risk on their part of letting their IP's be used like this.
Yeah I'm bummed about having to find a new host (if I do decide to reupload) but I'm not about to get mad at Nintendo.
Because they're dicks is extremely accurate though. They wouldn't ever lose their IP over fangames, and I guarantee you nobody would confuse a game on fucking Game Jolt as the legit thing. So yes, they're being dicks just for the sake of it, like they do every single fucking time with fan games. Same behaviour they they use with youtube.
Woah, hey now, be careful or the corporations defense is going to accuse you of stealing dem tasty assets!As a creator of a fangame myself, this is hugely frustrating...
But if anyone wants to play a Gen2 based Pokemon game which borrows heavily from Final Fantasy 8.
check this out: Super Pokemon Eevee Edition
Jacksinthe
Banned
What analogy? I was being sarcastic :|
On a side note I don't think there is any discussion to be had - they are protecting their IP as they should. If they were abandoned it would be a bit different. I wouldn't call it a "shitty move" but a disappointing one.
It already exists
So how long before Mario Fan Game Galaxy gets a C&D? Or even the convention they put on? Because that seems like the next big target.
Well that and Super Smash Flash 2. I honestly doubt that they even know about Mother 4.
Well that and Super Smash Flash 2. I honestly doubt that they even know about Mother 4.
I'm worried about MFGG. That place would be completely destroyed by a DMCA, unlike GameJolt.
Emperor Bohe
Member
nintendo are not having a good day
Nintendo to become a PC games developer so they need to clean out the market first.
Hey people don't ignore this post.
KojiKnight
Member
Nintendo is moving more and more towards the Disney approach (or more correctly, moving back to it after abandoning it in the early 90's).
Nintendo wants their name and mascots on everything. Gone are the days where Nintendo makes money off of games, they are back to making money off their IP (yes, there games are also IP, but the distinction is important).
So now that Nintendo is selling the IP, anything that uses their IP illegitimately is now a threat to their business. It threatens to cheapen those IP.
Why spend money to license Nintendo characters if Nintendo is just going to let anyone use them for free without asking? That's why they are doing this.
Nintendo wants their name and mascots on everything. Gone are the days where Nintendo makes money off of games, they are back to making money off their IP (yes, there games are also IP, but the distinction is important).
So now that Nintendo is selling the IP, anything that uses their IP illegitimately is now a threat to their business. It threatens to cheapen those IP.
Why spend money to license Nintendo characters if Nintendo is just going to let anyone use them for free without asking? That's why they are doing this.
As of this post, there's 1,060 games there. I honestly don't think anyone has all of them backed up, either.
I'd attempt to, but I'm not even sure if folks would care at this point.
TheDinoman
Member
Man, it's a good thing the Project M dev team bailed while they could, especially with Nintendo locking down professional Smash tournaments.