Though that's not isolated to the Pro, the new AA was deployed on both PS4 and Xbox.
This is the test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoJjOxhcLY0
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Battlefield 1 - Worse IQ and Performance on PS4 Pro after newest Patch
- Thread starter BakedTanooki
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Though that's not isolated to the Pro, the new AA was deployed on both PS4 and Xbox.
This is the test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoJjOxhcLY0
OmegaTreeFish
Banned
No, come on now read more carefully. People are saying it runs slightly worse on the pro on one map that the pro ran it before the patch. It still runs and looks way better than the OG ps4 version.
Backfoggen
Banned
Image quality was perfect pre patch. Why mess with it?
They should revert the changes for the Pro.
They should revert the changes for the Pro.
I'm Spartacus
Member
This thread statement does not speak for my experience with the game last night post-patch.
The image quality was as good as it was pre-patch and even, dare-I-say-it, better than what I saw from extensive play over the weekend (also on the Pro). I particularly noted to my party just how stunning Amiens was and how the other levels where equally well defined with regards to image clarity, better defined textures and how well it was running. It simply looks a visual treat on my screen.
But maybe that is the issue here; maybe people need to start stating what resolution they are playing at as maybe the problem (if indeed it exists) pertains to 4k displays where 1080p displays (my sony bravia) aren't affected i.e the downscaling/supersampling looks great whereas the upscale to 4k doesn't.
However, to reiterate again, from my experience Battlefield 1 does not have worse IQ and performance on the PS4 Pro after the latest patch.
The image quality was as good as it was pre-patch and even, dare-I-say-it, better than what I saw from extensive play over the weekend (also on the Pro). I particularly noted to my party just how stunning Amiens was and how the other levels where equally well defined with regards to image clarity, better defined textures and how well it was running. It simply looks a visual treat on my screen.
But maybe that is the issue here; maybe people need to start stating what resolution they are playing at as maybe the problem (if indeed it exists) pertains to 4k displays where 1080p displays (my sony bravia) aren't affected i.e the downscaling/supersampling looks great whereas the upscale to 4k doesn't.
However, to reiterate again, from my experience Battlefield 1 does not have worse IQ and performance on the PS4 Pro after the latest patch.
-hadouken
Member
I'm guessing the new AA is hitting performance and making the game look soft. Pro functionality still in effect, though suffering as a result of this AA.
Noticed it the most on Argonne Forest, frame rate was significantly less smooth than before patch, when starting the operations match the frame rate was really jarring.
Also noticed a larger amount of pop in which wasn't there before.
IQ definitely seemed softer on other maps but Argonne Forest is the worst. Playing on a 4K TV for reference.
Also noticed a larger amount of pop in which wasn't there before.
IQ definitely seemed softer on other maps but Argonne Forest is the worst. Playing on a 4K TV for reference.
dreamstation
Member
I'm playing on a 1080P display and it definitely didn't feel as smooth after the patch.
I'm Spartacus
Member
NXGamer
Member
I have briefly tested this 1.04 patch and it all seems to contain the same res, asset upgrade and fps gains I covered in my first video.
The forest stage is always one of the worse due to large sections of geometry. Overdraw and destruction so I think this did and will stand out till more patches are made.
Baseline is Pro version still looks and runs better than base PS4 by a sizable margin.
Thank yo, finally put this to bed. It's crazy how it can fuck with people's minds when they think something is totally different. I'd love for you to take a look at mafias patch, just played iq seems so much better, the fuzziness and Jagger's seem largely gone now.
I'm Spartacus
Member
A wild NXGamer appears! Keep up the good work man! Digital Foundry didn't seem to notice anything either:-
Digital Foundry said:
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
kriskrosbbk
Member
Can you please put in test Rush on Argonne.Strangely enough it was worst than CQ there.
Don't ask me why.
Pandahammer
Neo Member
Sorry mate but maybe his is running fine, mine most certainly is not.
As I said, played over 100 hours and quite a few on pro. As soon as that patch dropped me and my squad noticed the performance drop straight away. Something is wrong.
Backfoggen
Banned
I really don't think this many people would be seeing things in regards to this patch. DFs testing was done solely on 1.04 it seems so they may have no reference.
Okay, I can captures pre patch and now I've done some post patch on PS4, and done FPS counts by duplicate frames. It's a nightmare to do as you have to aim for similar weather conditions, as some of them impact performance.
And: there's no performance hit. The forest level was a heavy hitter before and after patch, but I see no decline in performance.
IQ is slightly softer due to TAA change, but at 4K it's barely noticeable.
This was done on a PS4 Pro only, for reference.
And: there's no performance hit. The forest level was a heavy hitter before and after patch, but I see no decline in performance.
IQ is slightly softer due to TAA change, but at 4K it's barely noticeable.
This was done on a PS4 Pro only, for reference.
NXGamer
Member
I prefer "feral" as my prefix title lol.
The thing with Mp Is the fact they have so many variables so things can alter for users.
Will test more once I have time, thanks for the requests.
Backfoggen
Banned
Can you still play online without the patch?
PackAPunchedMick
Member
So the OP was completely and utterly incorrect?
Good to hear we have genuine evidence and not "my eyes" so this fud can stop.
Good to hear we have genuine evidence and not "my eyes" so this fud can stop.
ManUnkindH
Member
Via Purifico
Banned
Yes i noticed this too, quitting after the match is done sends me in limbo for 2 minutes and the fan goes crazy...
Only time mine was louder was when the image behind the main menu didn't load a couple of times, was just a black screen with the spinning loading circle in the top right hand corner.
That hadn't happened before the patch but could just be an occasional glitch that happens sometimes
Please read.
PackAPunchedMick
Member
The game is cpu bound, the cpu in the Pro is 30% more powerful than the OG ps4 yet the game sees an increase of 50% in performance with more than double the pixels..........and you're disappointed? what!
Saberus
Member
You better pack it up and send it back.
Anyway.. its good that NXGamer and Digital Foundry saw no difference.
Yautja_Warrior
Member
So it seems like apart from the temporal anti-aliasing change, everything is the same then.
I guess people who thought the performance got worse, was either their mind playing tricks on them or with MP playing differently every time, the performance will always be a little different from match to match anyway.
I guess people who thought the performance got worse, was either their mind playing tricks on them or with MP playing differently every time, the performance will always be a little different from match to match anyway.
Cone on, now. Fucking read more than a sentence.
Arthur-Hucksake
Neo Member
Could it be that it's the Pro users at 1080p that are noticing this more?
Has that been explored yet?
Has that been explored yet?
Equanimity
Member
I disagree with DF and NXGamer on this one. Argonne forest is dropping a lot of frames after the patch on TDM and Domination. It ran at a flawless 60fps before the patch.
Maybe they only tested the maps with Conquest and Operations.
Maybe they only tested the maps with Conquest and Operations.
kriskrosbbk
Member
Which doesn't make ANY sense, but I agree with you. It was terrible on Rush and better on CQ. I have no idea what is going on anymore.DICE please fix my baby.
Equanimity
Member
Yep. Something is causing drops and micro-stutters in the 24 player modes. Dice will fix it hopefully.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
I regret that you did not read the article or ever the summary.
I haven't experienced any issues as far as anything "looking" better. IMO the stable resolution on the Pro is far better than the resolution scaling on the normal PS4.
With that being said, the frame rate is still rubbish and anything we're talking about in terms of FPS is abysmal in this game.
With that being said, the frame rate is still rubbish and anything we're talking about in terms of FPS is abysmal in this game.
thelastword
Banned
The only way to prove anything is to show screens and do framerate tests. DF or NX saying that there is no issue or no changes means nothing unless they prove it......
It's the same way DF said there was no changes/pro upgrades to battlefield-1 at the launch, and the fact-detector proved that was not so....So unless we get the proof, I'm inclined to believe persons who have the game and have been playing day in and day out....
It's the same way DF said there was no changes/pro upgrades to battlefield-1 at the launch, and the fact-detector proved that was not so....So unless we get the proof, I'm inclined to believe persons who have the game and have been playing day in and day out....
Backfoggen
Banned
Exactly so how can he compare pre and post patch performance
This is about Fps issues in multiplayer. SP is damn near 60 regardless.
Sick of drive by shit posting in these threads, in no way is the pro version worse than the base ps4 version, if you had a pro you'd know.
Straight Edge
Member
I played 3 conquest matches last night and didn't notice anything different myself. My g/f said the picture was not as sharp. Did not play a match in the forest though.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
What? It has much much better performance on the Pro.
As well as higher resolution and higher graphical presets...
You're either extremely ignorant to your own purchase, or this is a troll post..
Backfoggen
Banned
Would like to chime in: Argonne Forest runs worse no doubt. It was the only map I ever played on the Pro when I tested it earlier this week and I noticed the fps boost over standard immediately. Booting it up now, it frequently dips below that level of smoothness. Just has that jerky feel that the non-Pro BF1 had.
In regards to image quality it's hard to say. It still looks plenty sharp at 1080p. The new TAA certainly didn't improve anything, either, but it's not an issue for me right now. Maybe on a 4k screen you notice the differences more.
In regards to image quality it's hard to say. It still looks plenty sharp at 1080p. The new TAA certainly didn't improve anything, either, but it's not an issue for me right now. Maybe on a 4k screen you notice the differences more.
BakedTanooki
Member
As I said before, not every map seems to be affected. There are also some people reporting issues with maps, in different play modes.
Argonne Forest was running better before the latest patch. There is constant stuttering now, like it's never running really smooth.
Maybe it's the framepacing?
Even my girlfriend noticed it, and she didn't even knew about the new patch.
Argonne Forest maybe had little hiccups here and there pre-patch, but it was never like this on my Pro. I remember how i noticed, how much smoother it was running, when playing on my Pro. Looked like perfect 60fps at times. And now it feels very different.
Argonne Forest was running better before the latest patch. There is constant stuttering now, like it's never running really smooth.
Maybe it's the framepacing?
Even my girlfriend noticed it, and she didn't even knew about the new patch.
Argonne Forest maybe had little hiccups here and there pre-patch, but it was never like this on my Pro. I remember how i noticed, how much smoother it was running, when playing on my Pro. Looked like perfect 60fps at times. And now it feels very different.
thelastword
Banned
Yet, some people are pretending nothing has changed across the board........
There's no way PC is affected so much, so many console gamers are feeling and noticing a change in fluidity/visuals or otherwise, yet everything is just as it were prior to this patch, it does not make sense....
BakedTanooki
Member
What do you expect? There are people on NeoGAF who can't tell the difference between 30fps and 60fps. Or people who never noticed framepacing issues.