Should still be better than the ps4 capture stuff then.
embargo is up. First review here:
8/10 - https://mspoweruser.com/review-project-cars-2-improvements-many-levels/
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Project CARS 2 discussion thread (provisional release date: Septemberish 2017)
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Should still be better than the ps4 capture stuff then.
embargo is up. First review here:
8/10 - https://mspoweruser.com/review-project-cars-2-improvements-many-levels/
NullPointer
Member
HueyFreeman
Banned
Thanks for checking and getting back to us, must have been busy days for you.
12:01am EST September 18 is 6:01 am CEST... In not even 6 hours now. We're not doing a separate review thread, or are we? I for sure won't be available that early
Would definitely appreciate a separate review thread if someone has time to do it. This thread is reeeeally old now and some people might not realize this a releasing this week.
First review is good though hard to make much of that, seems like a really amateur site.
Karak
Member
I may have my own issues with the game but of the 4 people who sat and played it this week. None of them had those issues, though obviously it doesn't have the fidelity of a wheel at all. Strangely though those issues DID exist prior to the latest patch.
WoolyNinja
Member
Thanks for the info - as always I look forward to your review
Karak
Member
My review
Wait for Sale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxxh7E-YlFI
Even with the patch the game has a large number of graphical issues, issues with the AI and its way of driving looking really odd. I tried to capture it in the video. Its like it gets confused and goes digital left, right, left right, in every corner like a kid hitting a digital steering pad versus analog or something. And it still feels a bit off. Somewhat like Project Cars where it feels like there is this strange fine layer of translation going on when your driving. Its not a pause. Its...just a bit numb. I spent hours in the FFB and in the controller settings. Based on PS4 and PS4pro versions. PC version wouldn't work.
As for control. Its better than Project Cars and not perfect. But I think some folks forget that some of these cars are BRUTES even with a steering wheel. Its insane. In a good way
That DOES NOT mean its bad. Its not. There is a ton of content and the career mode is the bomb and its fun. But my honest opinion is the racing scheme is pretty crowded with some excellent entries both already released and coming and this misses that instant buy mark.
Wait for Sale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxxh7E-YlFI
Even with the patch the game has a large number of graphical issues, issues with the AI and its way of driving looking really odd. I tried to capture it in the video. Its like it gets confused and goes digital left, right, left right, in every corner like a kid hitting a digital steering pad versus analog or something. And it still feels a bit off. Somewhat like Project Cars where it feels like there is this strange fine layer of translation going on when your driving. Its not a pause. Its...just a bit numb. I spent hours in the FFB and in the controller settings. Based on PS4 and PS4pro versions. PC version wouldn't work.
As for control. Its better than Project Cars and not perfect. But I think some folks forget that some of these cars are BRUTES even with a steering wheel. Its insane. In a good way
That DOES NOT mean its bad. Its not. There is a ton of content and the career mode is the bomb and its fun. But my honest opinion is the racing scheme is pretty crowded with some excellent entries both already released and coming and this misses that instant buy mark.
WoolyNinja
Member
Thanks, makes me feel all the better that I decided to bite on F1 2017 this year as that game controls fantastically. The controls were my biggest problem with PCars1 and I was hoping they'd get it right for this game but it sounds like there's still room for improvement. I'll probably grab it on sale so I can take the Indycar's around some tracks though.
Karak
Member
Ya and patchable for sure!
Yes not looking good.
TJP
Member
Thanks for the detailed review. Hopefully the issues are nutted out by the time I buy the game.
Did it feel like project cars 2,or more like project cars 1.5?
xrnzaaas
Member
Oh man the glitches with the flickering shadows are horrible. I guess I'll wait until the game gets patched before I buy it.
On GTP Ian Bell is baffled by the comment about the pad controls, and says the flickering shadows is only in the replays..?
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/project-cars-2-reviews.357791/page-2#post-11945547
You might want to wait for 15:00 CET. That's when European reviews should hit.
I don't really get the controls comments. In HobbyConsolas they even say it's worse than PC1. I mean, either the build they sent is broken or people have broken hands. It's leagues and bounds above PC1.
BTW, it's always fun watching people criticise the AI while they bump into them in each and every corner.
BTW, it's always fun watching people criticise the AI while they bump into them in each and every corner.
Karak
Member
The shadows/lod issues and in the trees especially are over the game. As others already pointed out you can see it in many sections, and those who got the game early see it. Thats odd. But for them its small. For me its terrible looking. Lod issues kill my soul.
And not at all sure what he is disagreeing with me for about the gamepad. I said you can play with a gamepad very well.
endlessflood
Member
Is this the same Ian Bell who last Friday posted that PC2 was better than Forza on Xbox? Before admitting 4 minutes later that he'd never seen Forza running on Xbox?
NullPointer
Member
I think its outside the gamepad feel - you ended your review saying the cars didn't feel quite like they should overall - that 'layer of translation' between your inputs and your expectations.
Thanks for the in-depth review. I definitely read that more as 'wait for a patch' than 'wait for a sale', but it has me looking to more reviews for their take on technical issues. Still 90% buy ATM but taking notes ;p
Karak
Member
I would be...incredibly surprised if a developer was baffled by someone saying it improved in the control department but still felt a tiny bit off. Thats incredibly defensive. Actually. Nah. I guess I am not.
As for wait for a patch. If a patch just fixes one of 5 issues, it doesn't really work out so well. What you will spend seems like a better bet lol. Then again I remember PATCHES to Skyrim making my dragons fly backwards lol
Clearly you haven't heard of Ian Bell then.
Karak
Member
It absolutely feels like PC2. It just needs a patch or 2 to shore up a couple things for me. For others it will be great.
Cheers, still not sure what to make of the handful of reviews that have dropped, will wait for some more before I decide to get it now, or wait.
Review thread - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=249198290
I can't remember exactly what you said about the feel (I was getting a little distracted by all the similes, to be honest..!
) but I *think* it was something like "compared to, say, other games". What other games were you referencing here?
Karak
Member
I can't remember exactly what you said about the feel (I was getting a little distracted by all the similes, to be honest..!
Shooters
LOL
Other racers with a more tactile feel and response between ground, wheel, and hands.
I have not. But I now see folks are saying my video is doing irreparable damage to the brand. And just got a nice message in my youtube telling me to die.
I love fans.
Shooters
LOL
Other racers with a more tactile feel and response between ground, wheel, and hands.
Yeah, obviously racing games - which ones though, for reference?
NullPointer
Member
5 hours to go.
Which sites or yourubers will test this from more hardcore simracing angle?
Karak
Member
Wait what?
Bandai informed me 12:01 am est
Both in written form and in email form. And then the PR company I contacted right before posting and they also backed up 12:01am EST
It's 15:00 CEST according to Ian Bell.
You aren't the only one, seems like some were told one thing (Bamco US?) and others another (Bamco Worldwide?)
Karak
Member
I don't know who that is.
But I know who their Director of Communications and Corporate Social Responsibility's who sent me the game
And as posted earlier 12:01 AM ESTGreat so now some pissy people are attacking me because their company can't get shit right. this is FUN>
Head of the dev, SMS, looks like a comms breakdown between the dev and the pub.
TJP
Member
The internet is full of morons and you've clearly attracted some of them. Quite a few people are heavily invested in pCARS 2 so it's little surprise.
I liked your review for pCARS 2 as I did for WRC 7.
Karak
Member
We don't disbelieve you Karak!
JackAubrey
Member
My GT5 review got brigaded by N4G users who threatened my children with violence.
I don't miss the business at all.
BN have been pissing Ian Bell off for a while now (eg approving buggy and outdated dev build videos for release, general comms fuckery, misinformation about preorders etc). Can't see that relationship lasting for pCARS 3.
Karak
Member
All of this for a review of a game I actually liked a great deal.
Well back to normal life I guess
I had someone say they hoped my dogs burned to death or were poisoned in front of me.
It takes some...creativity I guess.
Well back to normal life I guess
I had someone say they hoped my dogs burned to death or were poisoned in front of me.
It takes some...creativity I guess.
