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Project Cars 2 Review thread
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That's false. You should read terms you sign for next time.
The discussion about the Ai I think it's one of these things that gets magnified. I mean, the video is terrible, but I've clocked more than 150 hours and have never experienced such a messy situation, not even in earlier AI settings. My latest races have been quite good from the AI side. Some tracks probably have some problem, but that's not representative of how the AI works.
This is an AI race I made a month or so ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlT6rwip_f0
It's really a pity that SMS decided or was forced or whatever to launch the game with problems like those in the video unshorted. They are not common, but watching videos like that, people will think twice before buying the game. And rightfully so.
HueyFreeman
Banned
goddamn
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
can you test at monaco track and the same Formula cars as the gamersyde video?
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
Savage, and perfect.
Xcell Miguel
Gold Member
It was not written on the product page and the purchase page, only on the very long terms page, who reads that when you expect it to be the same terms as PCARS 1?
And when they make it foundable on their own founding platform that make founders get some money back (as they advertise it), it's normal to expect it (and I'm not the only one who got fooled by the way they handled it).
Project CARS 2 |OT| Slightly Bad QA
I can only speak from my experience in the first game and footage I'm seeing come out from the patched retail release of PC2, but I'm sort of surprised you haven't encountered the AI needlessly clogging a turn like that.
Nope, the beta key has been revoked for a week and half now.
It was. Basically you asumed. You have the right to complain, but that's about all the right you have here.
This is a car and track combo thing, not a general AI thing. From my experience some cars/classes need extra work, some tracks need extra work. If you mix them, they will yield the worst possible scenarios. It's not even a thing of tracks being tight, since I've tried Bathurst and found the AI pretty good. Then again, I've never played Monaco in PC2 (not a fan of the track) and only formula cars I've played are Vintage at vintage tracks. So my understanding is that this is a case by case scenario that can probably be shorted out. It's not, in my opinion, a widespread AI problem.
Yes, AI is not as good in slow corners, yes, AI is slower than it should in the first lap, but what you see in the Gamersyde video is not the norm. Not in my experience at least.
Neuromancer
Member
Hopefully by the time I can check this out at my library they will have patched some of the more egregious issues. Mostly though I hope the handling feels right (wheel). I never did get to like the way PC1 felt.
nice sounds like a marked improvement over the original
this is good to hear also from IGN review
i can live with a few bugs as they get patched for the overall package of fun Motorsport racing which this game seems to offer in spades and what I preferred about it last time around compared to Forza
this is good to hear also from IGN review
i can live with a few bugs as they get patched for the overall package of fun Motorsport racing which this game seems to offer in spades and what I preferred about it last time around compared to Forza
nikos
Member
My trust was lost the first time around, after people recommended the game only because there was money involved. It also was not fun configuring controller settings for hours at a time.
Combine that with the fact that Forza 7 and GT Sport are right around the corner and it makes PC2 a tough sell, even to somebody who buys most racing games that are released.
Combine that with the fact that Forza 7 and GT Sport are right around the corner and it makes PC2 a tough sell, even to somebody who buys most racing games that are released.
N21
Member
Does anyone know if PC2 console versions keep a steady frame rate because PC1 for XB1 was a joke?
Totally agree with you. Plus, the first game came out in May 2015 which was a safe month in terms of releases, September seems more dangerous for such a release.
Totally agree with you. Plus, the first game came out in May 2015 which was a safe month in terms of releases, September seems more dangerous for such a release.
MrFrankFontaine
Banned
Hahhaaha. That's good
*points to the pocket*
Well, if it's not a HUGE improvement over PC1, it's still shit in my book.
JackAubrey
Member
And folks are going to be able to play the Forza 7 demo tomorrow - which may (or not depending how good it is) steer some cash away from PCars2.
You mean Forza 7 and GT Sport? Nah, not really. I don't own an Xbox One or a PC to run FM7 (also got a bit tired of Forza), and online gaming isn't interesting to me, and that's the focus with GTS. I thank the gods for Codemasters for my racing fix
even thought the seem a bit retarded from time to time.
draughn101
Member
9.2 from ign. Handling a "tour de force".
Bring on the bugs!
Bring on the bugs!
NullPointer
Member
Sweet merciful Jesus.
Tearing and clueless AI? Yeah, I've gone from a buy to a wait-and-see on this.
The game could be awesomesauce in the moment-to-moment, but there's just too many issues, small and large for me to jump in at release. Will keep an eye on patches and sales.
exmachina64
Banned
Yeah, sure, that's the only reason people recommended it. 🙄
HueyFreeman
Banned
Interesting that the metacritic is currently sitting at 89 with 11 reviews. Gah, really not sure which way to go here.
Shadowhaxor
Member
Just downloaded a new patch (1.3). Didn't see the patch notes for it. Did anyone else?
Edit: Good Lord! It's 10GB!
Edit: Good Lord! It's 10GB!
Opencritic.com has it at 82 from 22 reviews.
I think it looks pretty solid, despite the issues.
Gormenghast
Member
It seems at least very common. See @1:35:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdNsfpmZ8xs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdNsfpmZ8xs
No game has came close to Assetto Corsa on PC in terms of exhilarating driving experience yet, especially in VR at a solid 90fps.
Will wait to see how this one pans out in VR.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
at least they did a fast "recovery" here xD
Very interesting indeed!
Any idea what it does?
I guess slow T1s is where it is at. I don't think I've played any of these type of tracks with AIs. That would explain why my experience with the AI in this game is what comes afterwards: Pretty entertaining AI.
Shadowhaxor
Member
I've been looking for patch notes, I can't find any. No update from the publisher either.
Very odd!
The plot thickens...
Don't look for patch notes of an unreleased game xD
Are you playing on a PC or console?
It's almost unfair but that one video has completely destroyed any interest I had in buying the Project Cars 2. Not only does it highlight failures of the AI in start after start but it does not look good, either. Everything looks hilariously flat.
The reviews scores are high, so I have to assume that it's a decent game. But that video, wow. I can't get past it.
Persona RS
Member
Version 1.03 patch notes.
- Reenabled HDR.
- Several enhancements and improvements to Career Mode.
- Several enhancements and improvements to the in-game HUD.
- Enhancements and improvements to Time Trial, Director and Broadcast modes.
- Enhancements and improvements to Photo Mode.
- Support for larger saved replays.
- Several enhancements and improvements for online play.
- Several enhancements and improvements to AI.
- Smaller tweaks to Motorsport Presets, car handling, pit stops, vehicle graphics, rendering and special effects.
Shadowhaxor
Member
No, but the publisher usually sends the reviewer the updates.
AI improvements sound handy, considering to feeling in this thread!!!
Shadowhaxor
Member
Once it finishes downloading....... slow downloads ;(
i wonder if it is the result of an HDR game being captured in SDR?
have watched many HD and 4k YT feeds the past few weeks from beta players and it looks way better than a couple of these vids
TylerDurden4321
Member
Thanks in advance!!
That the pile-up didn't occur in the wet tells me that they addressed the no-disadvantage in the wet AI issues, they brake earlier than would be perfect in the wet, so no pile-up in the wet. Also means that an AI slower than 100% might not pile up either.
The much bigger AI issues in pCARS1 were that they overtook you in the most dangerous and stupid ways even driving over grass or very high sausage curbs. If you overtook them on the inside of some certain corners it was like they had a blind spot for that corner, rammed you or even shoved you side by side, which is pretty deadly in open wheelers as well. At least the too dangerous overtaking by faster AI was addressed with the aggressiveness slider, we'll see about the rest.
NullPointer
Member
Persona RS
Member
Yea, same here. Prior to this video, I thought Forza AI cars on Long Beach were as bad as it gets... but this is just ridiculous, and seemingly shockingly consistent.
TylerDurden4321
Member
I was right
)Edit: I also remember from pCARS1, the first corner at Monaco had an issue that would flag your qualifying lap invalid, if you were too far on the inside even though you were still within track limits, maybe if SMS corrected that, this one isolated problem would be solved since the AI had more space through that corner.