TheAdmiester
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GTSport
One thing I don't get about GTS, how come it seems that the Nurburgring (and no other track) has a really motion-blur look on its textures, even when the car isn't moving?
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One thing I don't get about GTS, how come it seems that the Nurburgring (and no other track) has a really motion-blur look on its textures, even when the car isn't moving?
Mohonky
Member
PCars2 really doesn't look so crash hot. I don't recall PCars1 looking that bad on PC.
It's not as bad as the sound in GT Cars though; I can't work out how they still haven't managed to get that right. Everything sounds so dull and muted like you're listening to it with pillows over your ears or something.
HueyFreeman
Banned
My bad, I was just talking about the environments. I just find GT, as usual, to be so hit or miss. It can look totally outstanding one moment and then like its using the same 2 generation old assets the next.
PC2 has visual issues for sure, i just find it's more consistent.
sems4arsenal
Member
That was my issue with the PS3 era GTs as well. GTSport seems pretty consistent though.
The weather comparisons, lol. Driveclub on a completely different level, nothing touches it.
GTSport
GTS looks really nice there.
TrojanBlade
Member
I can't believe a 3 year old game DC, still is beating some of these juggernauts of racing. Also the sense of speed in DC is best, the other games seem like they are driving a corolla. What a masterpiece DC still is and I can only imagine how amazing DC2 would have been if Sony stupidly has not shut them down. What a shame. Boo Sony boo!!
icecold1983
Member
and again(quite obviously too) max settings on pc changes nothing. theres no effective AA either except brute forcing a high enough number of pixels
thelastword
Banned
Not just weather either, when the camera went from cockipit to Full Car View in DC and the other games, it was a revelation how superior DC's lighting, Car model, reflections and environments were compared to the rest. I think GTS will beat DC with some texture work and general IQ, but DC's environments look so impressive in motion even without weather......
But yes, with weather DC just takes it that much further.......Moreover, that sense of speed though?.....For a 30fps racer...I've never seen that before till this game...I mean, MStorm was fast too at 30Hz, but DC with predominantly fast cars is just crazy...
ethomaz
Banned
DC is the only 30fps game from these... even so I believe GTS looks the best in this video.
icecold1983
Member
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TrojanBlade
Member
That is true ... and I know that is negative against it, but it still is silky smooth and has the best sense of speed. Maybe Evo would have hit 60fps if they would have been given a chance for DC2 at least on the Pro.
Yeah, framce-pacing is indrecible in the game. I would have loved a 60fps patch for DC on the Pro.
GTS has really come along though. I'm hoping some of the odd shadow jitter and LoD pop-in ends up being a little less prominent at release, because otherwise, they're pushing out lovely results in even "mundane" conditions.
Sebmugi
Member
in first footage of the final version the shadows of the trees are set and the density of foliage around the track has been greatly accetuer since the beta .. I think they did this for the others tracks of the game ...
https://youtu.be/LIm9VviZ-TU?t=155
with the release of the game forza 7 and the videos that circulates on the net I realized one thing ..
some people say of GT sport that between the gameplay phase and the replays it was not the same game .. I tell myself the same for forza 7 but on the contrary so the replays are of another time ... :boggled:
Dictator93
Member
So who do I have to send nude pictures to at Turn 10 for them to enable / allow customisable per object motion blur in gameplay on PC? Why is that not an option ?! :/
Meaning the gameplay comes across as more impressive than replays?
Sebmugi
Member
yes I find and it is better .. but the few replays I could see make me a little hurt .. :/ especially on backlight plans that flatten the image
https://youtu.be/In8b_ILcSRI?t=299
https://youtu.be/w87eO4YLoNo?t=408
I would actually agree with that, on a lot of scenarios. I think the changes/improvements in Forza 6 with the Nascar expansion made some great-looking replay results, but replays are an area that Gran Turismo has consistently been best-in-class.
The demo for Forza 7 didn't have replays, so I'm wondering how those will come across in the final game.
For me it's mostly due to the camera direction. Quick cuts, extreme close-ups, obnoxious camera shake... it makes my head hurt.
Same reason I couldn't enjoy Driveclub replays. GT replays are on another level imho.
D'ultimate
Member
You know, although these are not a visual treat the way GT replays are, there seems to be some improvement to the angles that are being shown. It's good to see actually. Idk if it's the the actual videos or Youtube they seem slow to me. Some kind of hiccuping.
They're using the same Maple Valley replay angles as the originals. smh
Sebmugi
Member
yes for me also the replays of driveclub really are not super inspired ..
it's a shame because watching a great race we did is part of the fun of a car game so no am I the only one who loves it .. ;p
it's also a pity for PC2 that offers a sad show in replay ..
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Jeez, they've had 7 chances now to nail a pleasing replay and still can't manage it.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Well done and pretty conclusive that GT Sport tops PC2.
icecold1983
Member
Pcars actually looks worse than a ps3 game there
thelastword
Banned
Oh Boy....From gtplanet:
kostacurtas
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Gingen
Banned
From the official forum https://forums.forzamotorsport.net/turn10_postst104371_What-s-happened-to-graphics.aspx
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From the official forum https://forums.forzamotorsport.net/turn10_postst104371_What-s-happened-to-graphics.aspx
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Can't decide between 5 and 6 but 7 definitely looks worse.
Sebmugi
Member
there are the same traces of braking for the different eras XP but they fade a bit anyway with the time.. ^^
Diablohead
Member
From the official forum https://forums.forzamotorsport.net/turn10_postst104371_What-s-happened-to-graphics.aspx
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It's always super interesting to see stuff like this, the first game of the gen used all that new power for what I feel like is a good use but then they dial it back so they can add a few new features somewhere else, making the track in 7 look like a HD version of something from forza 3 or 4.
GTP_Daverytimes
Member
From the official forum https://forums.forzamotorsport.net/turn10_postst104371_What-s-happened-to-graphics.aspx
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It's like a downgrade every new game.
They have lowered even the poly of the tires on the side of the track, when you see them closely now they have clearly a lot of edges now.
FunkyDealer
Banned
From the official forum https://forums.forzamotorsport.net/turn10_postst104371_What-s-happened-to-graphics.aspx
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You gotta make room for 50% more cars, better reflections, IQ, dynamic TOD and weather somehow.
The sad thing is that this is likely still the situation on X and Pc.
From the official forum https://forums.forzamotorsport.net/turn10_postst104371_What-s-happened-to-graphics.aspx
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Damn...the sacrifices for performance. That's stark.
But 100% worth it in a game where things move on the screen.
No part of me disagrees.
LordOcidax
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Noticed that on the demo... But holy shit... Thats the cost of dynamic weather.From the official forum https://forums.forzamotorsport.net/turn10_postst104371_What-s-happened-to-graphics.aspx
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AbandonedTrolley
Member
Yep fixed hardware stays fixed, unless they make sacrifices elsewhere then improvements could never be as drastic as they have been.
Are there shots from the pc version running in ultra settings?
Dictator93
Member
They have lowered even the poly of the tires on the side of the track, when you see them closely now they have clearly a lot of edges now.
PC - ultra
Don't mind the performance in this shot, the game is completely fucked up on my rig at the moment for reasons I do not understand.
PC - ultra
Don't mind the performance in this shot, the game is completely fucked up on my rig at the moment for reasons I do not understand.
Yea looks like Xbox One X and pc have higher poly models