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Bjork talks about her experience with Lars Von Trier.
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"...you can take quite sexist film directors like Woody Allen or Stanley Kubrick and still they are the one that provide the soul to their movies. In Lars von Triers case it is not so and he knows it. He needs a female to provide his work soul. And he envies them and hates them for it. So he has to destroy them during the filming. And hide the evidence."
Kind of of strange, since it seems like Bjork is quite proud of Dancer in the Dark but was absolutely miserable making it.
Kind of of strange, since it seems like Bjork is quite proud of Dancer in the Dark but was absolutely miserable making it.
Yeah. I was always under the impression he was horrible to work with. I think Charlotte Gainsbourg is like the only one who continually works with him. After Antichrist of all roles.
Oh, did you just really want to say milkshake duck.
How were you ever under the impression that he was a nice guy?
Oh, did you just really want to say milkshake duck.
He's notorious for how he treats actresses and is also a bit of an odd one in general. Remember when he was talking positive about Hitler and the Nazis several years ago before it was cool?
FloweryMarston
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hmm, definitely interesting to read this now http://www.npr.org/2011/11/06/142026288/lars-von-trier-a-problematic-sort-of-ladies-man
definitely a difference between being an asshole to work with and what she's claiming. Disgust at that shit.
definitely a difference between being an asshole to work with and what she's claiming. Disgust at that shit.
bruh
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
Not surprising. Von Trier has always been a scumbag, that's well documented. A talented one but that's no excuse. And even back then it was clear that Dancer in the Dark had been an ordeal for Bjork, she said so multiple times in interviews.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Dogville?
Oh he has talent, but I've never cared for him or his films one iota.
I have always loved his work but never read or heard anything about him as a person. Now I have. Milkshake duck.
Zepp Twofist
Member
Isn't milkshake duck referring to someone who had a quick rise to fame and them got outed for disgusting views, rather than someone who has been controversial for decades?
Sweeney Tom
Banned
That's still not what a Milkshake duck is.
tonysidaway
Member
Milkshake duck has transcended its origins. It's a useful term for the celebrity whose fall arises from exposure due to fame. That's subtly different from the original meaning, but nobody cares.
I knew he was a difficult person to work with, with tons of weird quirks and he can be a bit awkward. A bit of an excentric weirdo artist who just doesn't operate on the same plane as normal people. Didn't think he'd be one of them, though it also doesn't come as a huge surprise.
Surprise of the century, Lars von Trier is an awful person.
I am so tired of that "milkshake duck" meme. It was funny in that one tweet, it's not something that should be turned into an adjective (and at one point a verb)
I am so tired of that "milkshake duck" meme. It was funny in that one tweet, it's not something that should be turned into an adjective (and at one point a verb)
I'm pretty sure Kirsten Dunst said in an interview he ran around with his pants down around set during Melancholia...so yeah he is a known weirdo. I've known for years that Bjork hated filming Dancer in the Dark but the statement makes it sound like he would touch people without consent... Puts me in a bind because it is one of my favourite films and I love the performance and soundtrack by Bjork.
sankt-Antonio
:^)--?-<
What is the actual accusation here?
FlutterPuffs
Member
So not fucking surprised.
In case you forgot how to read, she was touched and harassed by Lars, and the crew was ok about it. Lars even made up stories about how Bjork was being a diva.
Wait, I'm not sure if you could read my reply too.
In case you forgot how to read, she was touched and harassed by Lars, and the crew was ok about it. Lars even made up stories about how Bjork was being a diva.
Wait, I'm not sure if you could read my reply too.
the part where the director touched and harassed her at will
I'll help you.
She was sexually harrassed and subsequently victim blamed for being difficult to work with when the predator Lars Von Trier met resistance.
sankt-Antonio
:^)--?-<
She wrote actresses, dont really know if it included her.
Anyway. If he sexually abused/harassed let this guy get the heat.
Always-honest
Banned
Yep. Sounds dumb. There is already a name for all these things.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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Allen and Kubrick are/were not sexists.
Yeah, I didn't get that either. I've never read that Allen and Kubrick were sexists.
Kubrick was difficult but sexiest?
sankt-Antonio
:^)--?-<
He did abuse the actress in the shining mentally to get a certain performance out of her.
Autodidact
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George Cukor weeps.
radios shipping overview
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Not at all surprised about von Trier. I'm more surprised that he continues to get work.
Yeah, Stephen King considers Kubrick's depiction of Shelley Duvall's character to be misogynistic.
Yeah, Stephen King considers Kubrick's depiction of Shelley Duvall's character to be misogynistic.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
Member
King wrote his alcoholic loser writer to have a blonde playmate bombshell of a wife and has the gall to complain about misogyny when Kubrick injects realism into the depiction?
Seriously lmao.
I mean he did the same thing to everyone else on set except for the kid.
Nicholson vowed to never work work Kubrick again, and he pushed Scatman Cruthers to his breaking point. Kubrick was a perfectionist and a jerk all round.
I mean maybe he was sexist, but he abused all of his actors.
Lately it basically just means "anyone mentioned on the internet who is repugnant." The term was basically ground into meaninglessness in the span of like... a week lol
poppabk
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She never actually says that though. That may be what she meant, but she didn't say it.
InaudibleWhispa
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"it was extremely clear to me when i walked into the actresses profession that my humiliation and role as a lesser sexually harassed being was the norm and set in stone with the director and a staff of dozens who enabled it and encouraged it. i became aware that it is a universal thing that a director can touch and harass his actresses at will and the institution of film allows it. when i turned the director down repeatedly he sulked and punished me and created for his team an impressive net of illusion where i was framed as the difficult one"
If you're implying that maybe she wasn't sexually harassed because she successfully turned him down repeatedly, no. Expectation of submission and repeated attempts at inappropriate sexual contact is still harassment, and punishing her for refusing to put up with that shit is even grosser.
A lot of people here really wanna make fetch happen with this phrase
you're just streets behind brother.
At least bjork feels comfortable saying it out loud now. I know she was a wreck after Dancer, and I figured Von Trier was a pain to work with, but didn't know it went this far.