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The state of NeoGAF

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Bisnic

Really Really Exciting Member!
It's a shame really, I'm not sure this website will ever recover from this. It's too tarnished from this whole situation and how Evilore responded to this.

There could have been some hope I guess if Evilore resigned and left the reigns in the hands of someone else instead of blaming his ex, but I seriously doubt he'll ever do that.
 
Guess I need to post this again since there are some people who seem to have already forgotten after 2 page. Wow, how the mind slips!

"Allegedly"

Opening admitting to sexually assaulting someone(then banning anyone who called him out for it)
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Posting revenge porn with their real full names then another admin(a now jailed pedophile) printed the photos and jacked off over them and sent it to the boyfriend.
uRGmEGL.jpg


You're right, how can we even know if he's guilty or not? HMMMM

Also:
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Saya

Member
Guess I need to post this again since there are some people who seem to have already forgotten after 2 page. Wow, how the mind slips!

"Allegedly"

Opening admitting to sexually assaulting someone(then banning anyone who called him out for it)
1508785001663-WgTMVEd.jpeg


Posting revenge porn with their real full names then another admin(a now jailed pedophile) printed the photos and jacked off over them and sent it to the boyfriend.
uRGmEGL.jpg


You're right, how can we even know if he's guilty or not? HMMMM

Also:
6B7C1lb.jpg

A lot of people on GAF right now

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Neff

Member
I don't know why the far-left association has become a badge to flash with pride.

The far-left aligns with the neurotic idea that most people are inherently evil, justifying a crusade which tickles a fashionably misanthropic 'them and us' tribalism. Strength in numbers is a great antidote for self-doubt. Picking a side and going to war -particularly one without fatal consequences- simply feels good, always has.

The far-right does the same, with a different voice, but the underlying addiction to adversarial pleasures comes from the same primitive place. The difference is that the left claims the high horse and should in theory know better, but rarely does.

Of course, these philosophies have to operate under the notion that people are one-dimensional A or B thinkers, ignoring the reality that the average human being is an incredibly complex and unique animal, and that the vast majority of people align with neither far-left nor far-right. But no, buying into a childish lie is less challenging and more rewarding.

Mario's out on Friday!
 

Ensoul

Member
Been following this story since it happened. I honestly don't know what to think. All I know is I don't believe this place will ever be the same again which is a shame because I really enjoyed the community on here.
 

FairyD

Member
I really wish ResetEra had a better name >_> Not only is it unappealing in its own right, but it's also contest reminder of this specific event and EviLore which I really don't need if/when GAF is behind us.

But I live on OT so this I'm not gonna have much use from standard GAF, I need my Dragon Ball OT.

But isnt the name NeoGaf just a contest of the old Gaming Age forum before it reemerged in '04?
 
Not being snarky, but why is it down again? It seems to me that it would be more constructive to keep the OT as an outlet for people to have other discussions, because everything else is bleeding into Gaming anyway. People will have these conversations whether the OT is up or not.

OT was a disaster zone right before GAF was taken offline. Total shit show. It would probably be worse right now. Gaming at least resembled a little bit of gaming side.

It seems that, going forward, this community will be comprised almost exclusively of people who are willing to excuse or overlook sexual harassment. I can't help but feel that the overall mood of this forum is going to become more misogynistic and treated as a "man cave" type of environment where guys talk about guy stuff, now that members have basically self-selected themselves and those with a hard stance against sexual harassment have left.

I can't have a friendly discussion about games knowing that everyone else involved in the conversation is a person who isn't particularly bothered by sexual harassment and objectification of women. I think that should give anyone remaining a cause for concern, truthfully. Consider who you're associating with.

I would counter that and claim you're being overly dramatic. I know you understand that members who will still participate here don't excuse sexual harassment. It's an easy blanket statement to make- owner of site does thing, people still participate, people are ok with thing. Problem is, a community is not a reflection or an extension of any one person. It's the sum of each individual who participates.

What's going on here is fairly rote when it comes to internet drama. People lose their minds on the internet at the drop of a hat, i.e. making their own site that mirrors the bad site but it's pure and wholesome without the bad person, only the bad people stayed, etc.
 
"Allegedly"

Opening admitting to sexually assaulting someone(then banning anyone who called him out for it)
1508785001663-WgTMVEd.jpeg


Posting revenge porn with their real full names then another admin(a now jailed pedophile) printed the photos and jacked off over them and sent it to the boyfriend.
uRGmEGL.jpg


You're right, how can we even know if he's guilty or not? HMMMM

Also:
6B7C1lb.jpg
Wow.
 

saturnine

Member
The far-left aligns with the neurotic idea that most people are inherently evil, justifying a crusade which tickles a fashionably misanthropic 'them and us' tribalism. Strength in numbers is a great antidote for self-doubt. Picking a side and going to war -particularly one without fatal consequences- simply feels good, always has.

The far-right does the same, with a different voice, but the underlying addiction to adversarial pleasures comes from the same primitive place. The difference is that the left claims the high horse and should in theory know better, but rarely does.

Of course, these philosophies have to operate under the notion that people are one-dimensional A or B thinkers, ignoring the reality that the average human being is an incredibly complex and unique animal, and that the vast majority of people align with neither far-left nor far-right. But no, buying into a childish lie is less challenging and more rewarding.

Mario's out on Friday!

It's all nice and good except for the fact that the people you're pissed about were not far left. NeoGaf was never far left. There were a handful of posters who actually said they were socialists / communists.
 
But isnt the name NeoGaf just a contest of the old Gaming Age forum before it reemerged in '04?

That's an easier thing to be related back to than EviLore's sexual misconduct. "ResetEra" uses active language which evokes more attention to this specific event that the new site developed from.
 

zethren

Banned
Fuck you, EviLore.

You’re disgusting, and I will not willingly be a member of a community owned by a victim blaming abuser. What a shitshow.

Any mod that is still here, please permanently ban my account.
 

Ruff

Member
EL's always been a grade-A hypocritical cunt. who almost no-one who participated here actually liked That's why it's so humorous to see all the account suicides over this particular matter considering how tame it is compared to all the shit he's been involved with in the past, and it was hardly a secret.
 

Kuga

Member
I ain't worth a topic, so I'll keep this short and simple:

Thank you for the good times, GAF community. It's been over eleven years somehow. My participation was mostly limited outside of a couple niche topics, but I appreciate all of the great people, content, and the uniqueness that the site had. My main regret is lurking too much. You don't know what you have until it is gone.

And it is gone - this forum is dead to me. I've been fortunate enough to connect with some great GAF people in Discord and on other sites, so that's where I'll hang for now.

Anyways,
So long, and thanks for all the fish.
Peace.
 

dpunk3

Member
Sick of all these people posting crap about how they don't want to be here, if you don't want to be here just fuck off and chat elsewhere.

Damn that's some fine complacency.

They want to be here, just not with Evilore running things. What is there to miss.
 

CISphil

Neo Member
Also out. I'm appalled by the type of people that have come out of the woodwork. This is your perfect setting now Malka. There was a chance to save this place, but you were just too much of an egotistic cunt to care. It's irrelevant at this point if the sexual harassment allegations are true or not
almost certainly is.
Gaf is all about you, it was always about you, and the remaining community mean fucking nothing to you.

I would say it was nice knowing you all, but most anyone of substance has left. The few of you still fighting for the site are wasting your breath I'm sorry to say.

outb4 "lol junior!!11!! Lol nobody cares what juniors think anyway"
 
Guess I need to post this again since there are some people who seem to have already forgotten after 2 page. Wow, how the mind slips!

"Allegedly"

Opening admitting to sexually assaulting someone(then banning anyone who called him out for it)
1508785001663-WgTMVEd.jpeg


Posting revenge porn with their real full names then another admin(a now jailed pedophile) printed the photos and jacked off over them and sent it to the boyfriend.
uRGmEGL.jpg


You're right, how can we even know if he's guilty or not? HMMMM

Also:
6B7C1lb.jpg

That is fucking disgusting.
 

Kusagari

Member
Even getting away from the disgusting stuff, EL has always been a cunt.

The guy banned people for disagreeing that he could beat Bruce Lee in a fight and threw a temper tantrum when someone made the official Pillars of Eternity thread before him.
 

Neff

Member
It's all nice and good except for the fact that the people you're pissed about were not far left. NeoGaf was never far left. There were a handful of posters who actually said they were socialists / communists.

I'm not pissed. But I do think the mandate sustained by much of the community prior to the site going down prevented adult discussion. It was dogmatic, aggressive, and puerile.

Whether GAF can ever cultivate a healthy, balanced, self-policed community going forward or not is unknown, but the mass exodus of a large number of reactionary and vitriolic dramatists gives me hope.
 

[HP]

Member
I'm going to try to keep it civil.

For me, politics ruined this forum. I haven't posted here in a couple years or more, it has become a political echochamber and to deny that is to be pretty naive about the reality of all of this.
I saw many people, including myself getting temp banned for saying the most innocuous things, basically if you don't align politically with the moderators, they'll exercise their power and you're cast aside, that's not the kind of environment that I want to be around, because it kills critical thinking and meaningful discussion, you have to think twice about what you're saying in case you might "offend" someone, specially any moderator that might be reading your comment.

I'm no one to tell you what to you, but what I can try and say is to be very wary of hive-mind places like this, they can be detrimental to yourself and society, this used to be a gaming forum that became some sort of far left discussion and enforcement center, and ultimately is what killed it... That is of course, how I see it as someone on the outside looking in, I hope we can one day go back to our passion, GAMING and be excellent to each other once more.

Over&Out
 

Doukou

Member
God forbid this site doesn’t talk about games.
Where else could we possibly go to talk about games?
Those meddling politics.
 

Instro

Member
Even getting away from the disgusting stuff, EL has always been a cunt.

The guy banned people for disagreeing that he could beat Bruce Lee in a fight and threw a temper tantrum when someone made the official Pillars of Eternity thread before him.

I think it comes down to many people here seemingly participated and enjoyed GAF in spite of Evilore, not because of him.
 
I'm not pissed. But I do think the mandate sustained by much of the community prior to the site going down prevented adult discussion. It was dogmatic, aggressive, and puerile.

Precisely. You're in denial, oblivious, or a liar if you sincerely think that GAF didn't have a near consensus political view that was pushed aggressively in every thread that brought about even an ounce of social commentary. There was very little room given for opinions beyond that consensus, as anyone who expressed such views was chastised, insulted or banned.

Denying this was ever an issue just means that y'all have learnt fuck all from this fiasco, and if Off-topic ever does return, the same shit is going to become the norm yet again. If that's the case, I hope it doesn't come back.
 

Anung

Un Rama
God forbid this site doesn’t talk about games.
Where else could we possibly go to talk about games?
Those meddling politics.

You do realise that most of the OT pages and communities that thrived had jack shit to do with politics? Plus wishing super hard that politics somehow disappears from gaming won't make it so. Plenty of political things happen in gaming all the time that are newsworthy.
 

Doukou

Member
You do realise that most of the OT pages and communities that thrived had jack shit to do with politics? Plus wishing super hard that politics somehow disappears from gaming won't make it so. Plenty of political things happen in gaming all the time that are newsworthy.

Sorry I was being sarcastic.
 

Kusagari

Member
I think it comes down to many people here seemingly participated and enjoyed GAF in spite of Evilore, not because of him.

Well that's been made obvious with almost every notable user leaving. We enjoyed this site in spite of EL. He was a detriment if anything.
 
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