• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

TitanFall (EA/Respawn, PC/XB1/360, Spring 2014, Game Informer Leak, All Info In OP)

G

Grief.exe

Member
Moobabe said:
What IS the cloud?
Click to expand...

Dedicated Servers run Linux or Windows.

I used the Battlefield 3 example earlier.

A player shoots a rocket at a wall, the servers calculate the damage to the wall, and then transmit that data to the clients. Not difficult, been doing that for years.

This is what Microsoft describes as the 'Infinite Power of the Cloud™'
 
M

mbmonk

Member
Dlacy13g said:
Interesting... wasnt' it just weeks ago that many gaffers were saying the "cloud computing" was just fictional PR BS???


"Plan to use Microsoft's Cloud for dedicated servers and physics and AI calculations"

seems to be pretty real... and dare I say... a bit of secret sauce?
Click to expand...

You could dare to say it, but dedicated servers have been around since Quake. It's hardly a secret and not exclusive to the Xbone sauce.
 
R

Rad-

Member
Spy said:
So what they're saying is PS4 is going to get a superior version 6 months-1 year later.
Click to expand...

Could be but effect wise this gen showed that timed exclusives worked pretty much like exclusives. Hype usually dies down 1 year later. Only few cases where it didn't, like Minecraft.
 
B

Bsigg12

Member
TrojanBlade said:
So it is not coming on the PS4 because this game is not possible w/o the cloud power...umm..ok...oh but its coming on the 360 then...hmmm ... yeah sounds more like a money hat exclusive...nothing wrong with that though
Click to expand...

You act as if they won't be able to make cloud services work on select games on the 360. It's all just networking, nothing done inside the system. But, yes it is a money hat.
 
M

Mrbob

Member
Don't get too tied up in the cloud talk. Be happy about the dedicated servers, though!

Grief.exe said:
Dedicated Servers run Linux or Windows.

I used the Battlefield 3 example earlier.

A player shoots a rocket at a wall, the servers calculate the damage to the wall, and then transmit that data to the clients. Not difficult, been doing that for years.
Click to expand...

Ding ding ding.
 
R

Rogue_Ledr

Banned
sleepykyo said:
Microsoft already busting out them fireworks.


And there were so many that thought Microsoft wouldn't go for the first installments of the promising new franchises.
Click to expand...

The firstworks are gonna explode and burn out pretty fast I presume. From the way they are talking this has the words "Timed exclusive" written all over it.

If it actually makes Spring 2014, then I suspect it will be a 6 month exclusive deal and be on PS4 by the winter of that year.
 
M

Moobabe

Member
Grief.exe said:
Dedicated Servers run Linux or Windows.

I used the Battlefield 3 example earlier.

A player shoots a rocket at a wall, the servers calculate the damage to the wall, and then transmit that data to the clients. Not difficult, been doing that for years.
Click to expand...

Ah I see - so... it's marketing buzz?
 
N

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Moobabe said:
Ah I see - so... it's marketing buzz?
Click to expand...

Yes.

Though this generation most developers used peer to peer, which meant one of the Xboxes/PlayStations was hosting the game, limiting how much they could feasibly run.

EA and sometimes Sony were a few of the exceptions.
 
C

Can Crusher

Banned
Spy said:
So what they're saying is PS4 is going to get a superior version 6 months-1 year later.
Click to expand...

Timed exclusives...

Before they launch "I'll wait for the superior version", after they launch "Of course it didn't do well, who's gonna buy an old game full price??!?!"
 
S

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
Moobabe said:
What IS the cloud?
Click to expand...

A general term for internet resources at a distance. It can be used to refer to storage, or to processing. In this context, Microsoft has a platform for developing applications that use the processing power of their servers, called Azure. Amazon has one called EC2. Basically devs and pubs have access to a bunch of processing power in a Microsoft server farm which they can use to process stuff for their games. But there are limits in what distributed (another word for "cloud") processing can do because of latency/lag.
 
R

Rogue_Ledr

Banned
Can Crusher said:
Timed exclusives...

Before they launch "I'll wait for the superior version", after they launch "Of course it didn't do well, who's gonna buy an old game full price??!?!"
Click to expand...

Yeah, definitely a timed exclusive, but you don't need to wait for the "Superior version". You can get it for PC Day 1 like me!
 
F

famousmortimer

Banned
Klocker said:
they meant with another game, not this one... could also mean a sequel
Click to expand...


You're in their head reading their intentions now?


All they said was that it was on the x1 and PC and they are open to other platforms in the future. Reading any more, or any less, into that would be foolish.


Not gonna gloat about leaking this a while ago after all of the people last night saying "famousmortimer isn't a legit source."


Im totally gloating
 
S

SpaceNun

Banned
Rogue_Ledr said:
The firstworks are gonna explode and burn out pretty fast I presume. From the way they are talking this has the words "Timed exclusive" written all over it.

If it actually makes Spring 2014, then I suspect it will be a 6 month exclusive deal and be on PS4 by the winter of that year.
Click to expand...

Yeah, people with fireworks and shit. HILARIOUS. Okay, guys, cool the fuck down now nothing happened. It looks like.... a decent game. OH MY OH NOES!
 
R

rac

Banned
54-46! said:
It's pretty sad that it has come to a point where COD isn't considered newbie friendly enough.
Click to expand...

Is that something the devs said or the interviewer inferred? I don't think I would want to play a mech game where you die in 2-3 bullets.
 
JimiNutz

JimiNutz

Banned
I've been waiting for info about this for a long time!
Info released so far sounds extremely impressive and this has now gone to the top of my most anticipated list!

This game alone is maybe not enough to convince me to get X1 but it's def a step in the right direction. Two or three big exclusives that sound as exciting as this and I'll be forced to purchace.
 
A

AndyD

aka andydumi
Kyon said:
thought it was 3rd person Lost Planet clone with SoTC elements. I guess shouldnt expect anything less from MS :/
Click to expand...

This would be fantastic. Really giant mechs and small groups of players working together to defeat them.
 
K

Klocker

Member
Moobabe said:
Ah I see - so... it's marketing buzz?
Click to expand...

Cloud is a term they use to allow the masses to understand what it is... the actual dedicated servers that are being built and the software for devs to use to run some AI and physics on the servers while hosting dedicated game worlds is not often done on consoles...

MS is gambling that investing bigin this technology full scale for all Xbox One games will payoff for years to come with better games if devs use it
 
R

Raide

Member
Cloud BS or not, it is certainly an interesting premiss. Mech and human combat mixed together could be awesome. Also the lager scale battles should split them apart from just making another CoD game.

Has to be at the MS E3 event right?
 
M

miso_Jeff

Banned
Cartman86 said:
Xbox One and PC. With a 360 version being developed by someone else. Game uses cloud a bunch apparently.
Click to expand...

So... would the PC version be the lesser version since it doesn't have the "cloud"? Or is the PC version the bench mark and the X1 needs the cloud to achive that PC performance? They did say that this game would not be possible without the cloud.
 
Gumbie

Gumbie

Member
Grief.exe said:
Dedicated Servers run Linux or Windows.

I used the Battlefield 3 example earlier.

A player shoots a rocket at a wall, the servers calculate the damage to the wall, and then transmit that data to the clients. Not difficult, been doing that for years.
Click to expand...

Microsoft's Azure cloud infrastructure also has the ability to use super computing clusters. A whole bunch of computer processors working together is a lot different than just saying it's dedicated servers.
 
K

Klocker

Member
famousmortimer said:
You're in their head reading their intentions now?


All they said was that it was on the x1 and PC and they are open to other platforms in the future. Reading any more, or any less, into that would be foolish.


Not gonna gloat about leaking this a while ago after all of the people last night saying "famousmortimer isn't a legit source."


Im totally gloating
Click to expand...

:)

I'll defer to your inside knowledge but I comprehended from what he said in the GI interview ...paraphrase "we wanted to go exclusive with our first game, but does not mean we will not go multiplat with future games"


edit: looks like cboat confirms 1 year timed
 
M

Moobabe

Member
Nirolak said:
Yes.

Though this generation most developers used peer to peer, which meant one of the Xboxes/PlayStations was hosting the game, limiting how much they could feasibly run.

EA and sometimes Sony were a few of the exceptions.
Click to expand...

Thanks - I wasn't too quick to jump on MS when they announced this because, well, they've had a pretty poor track record explaining themselves.

But if this is "hey we're using dedicated servers now" then.. cool, I guess?
 
G

Gorillaz

Member
crazy buttocks on a train said:
yo'uere weolcom.e.v1yr timee vcluisve.
Click to expand...
So it is time after all? hmm
gladiator-thumbs-up-o.gif


CBoaT kills it again-
 
S

Seanspeed

Banned
Klocker said:
I wonder if part of that strategy of survival is not only or necessarily how many shots to die but the game itself being bigger and more open and varied in scope allows us more things to do besides just respawn, turn, kill/die .... so there is more interaction with the world and maybe direct firefights happen a little les instantly from respawn time or allowing you to perform other operations (like hacking bots etc) rather than strictly shooting?
Click to expand...
That would make sense, definitely.
 
W

Wizman23

Banned
famousmortimer said:
You're in their head reading their intentions now?


All they said was that it was on the x1 and PC and they are open to other platforms in the future. Reading any more, or any less, into that would be foolish.


Not gonna gloat about leaking this a while ago after all of the people last night saying "famousmortimer isn't a legit source."


Im totally gloating
Click to expand...

I know you are legit and am crossing my fingers on your League of Legends rumor!
 
O

Orayn

Member
Kodiak said:
Yet another sci-fi action shooter further solidifies my lack of interest in the Xbone.
Click to expand...

Multiplat: Destiny, TitanFall
Microsoft: Halo
Sony: Killzone

Yeah, Xbox One is completely oversaturated with these, I agree.

(Xbox One is awful and I hope it bombs, but this is the wrong reason not to get one.)
 
R

Rogue_Ledr

Banned
miso_Jeff said:
So... would the PC version be the lesser version since it doesn't have the "cloud"? Or is the PC version the bench mark and the X1 needs the cloud to achive that PC performance? They did say that this game would not be possible without the cloud.
Click to expand...

OH PLEASE! The "Not possible without the Cloud" is pure BS moneyhat hype.

That is just their little nod to M$'s payoff. The game will probably barely use the "Cloud" if it does at all.

The game runs on the Source engine which is an old engine. So this is hardly "State of the art" game development here.

When the game eventually debuts on PS4 later sans Cloud and runs way better we'll see just how "impossible" it was.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Game Hubs Now Available for all PC Players
12
617
Little Chicken replied
Game hubs are available now for Xbox Insiders on PC
News Platform
0
300
Thick Thighs Save Lives replied
Coming to Game Pass: Manor Lords, Another Crab’s Treasure, Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes, and More
22
967
Roberts replied
Phil Spencer interview - Says that their intent is for all Xbox games, including Call of Duty, to be available on Xbox Game Pass Day One
2 3
102
6K
Kenneth Haight replied
Coming to Xbox Game Pass: Diablo IV, The Quarry, Ark: Survival Ascended, and More
News 2
88
4K
adamsapple replied
Top Bottom