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Where is Unreal Engine 4?
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ThoseDeafMutes
Member
E3 itself was running on UE4. The whole event was CGI.
thekonamicode
Member
They should just skip right to UE5.
this e3 was the first time Epic Games wasn't present at MS conference since 2005 (or 6?) in some form...
2005-6 Gears of War
2007 Gears of War PC
2008 Gears of War 2
2009 Shadow Complex
2010 Gears of War 3
2011 Gears of War 3
2012 Gears of War Judgment
it's pretty odd that they haven't even shown UE4 tech demos on One. Does Epic have no games to showcase UE4 on ng consoles? seems really odd, if there was one here was the time to show it.
2005-6 Gears of War
2007 Gears of War PC
2008 Gears of War 2
2009 Shadow Complex
2010 Gears of War 3
2011 Gears of War 3
2012 Gears of War Judgment
it's pretty odd that they haven't even shown UE4 tech demos on One. Does Epic have no games to showcase UE4 on ng consoles? seems really odd, if there was one here was the time to show it.
Zombie James
Banned
Wait, you think studios closed because of UE3?
TeamCG annoys me.
Bluekaveli
Member
IDK but the way UE3 was running this past gen, I'm kinda glad it wasn't there. I wish more teams and studios would build their own stuff to be honest.
HanShotFirst
Member
I think Mark Rein said that launch games would still be Unreal Engine 3 so we'll probably see more UE4 games next year.
# teamcgi
# teamcgi
Altered Juice
Member
who cares? Unreal engine has a garbage physics engine, anyway.
guess getting owned by a chinese company screwed them over
guess getting owned by a chinese company screwed them over
No, I'm saying the studios that once used UE are no longer in business.
Lol I see what you did there lol
Pretty sure I may have gone on record stating that many companies will be tuning their own engines from now on. The rise in costs was too much, especially when you add in additional licensing fees on top of that.
A lot of people dismissed that notion on the perceived basis that since it worked for the 360 and PS3, it must work every time after. And here we are...
A lot of people dismissed that notion on the perceived basis that since it worked for the 360 and PS3, it must work every time after. And here we are...
Must have missed that one.
I read that Thief is on Unreal Engine 3.
http://www.videogamer.com/ps4/thief/news/confirmed_thief_uses_unreal_engine_3_not_ue4.html
http://www.videogamer.com/ps4/thief/news/confirmed_thief_uses_unreal_engine_3_not_ue4.html
kutthoat5150
Member
with all the amazing looking games they showed like the division, mgs5, mirrors edge, who the hell needs unreal engine anymore
SpinningBirdKick
Banned
It's more lucrative to sell picks and shovels to hopeful prospectors than it is to try and mine gold yourself.
An internally developed AAA flop could pretty much wipe out any profits that they make from engine licensing and more besides.
If Epic has any sense they will be steering clear of AAA titles of their own.
I wouldn't be surprised if this is why most of Epic's old guard have departed.
An internally developed AAA flop could pretty much wipe out any profits that they make from engine licensing and more besides.
If Epic has any sense they will be steering clear of AAA titles of their own.
I wouldn't be surprised if this is why most of Epic's old guard have departed.
jfoul
Member
Eh, thought Tencent owned 40% of Epic. Maybe a buyout is on the horizon.
Uh... all the companies that can't spend the money on their own engine? There are still a lot out there, you know?
SneakyStephan
Banned
I was really happy not to see unreal engine at e3. (except for thief)
Ue3 was a fucking blight on this gen.
Thank god many publishers and first party studios use their own engines now.
Ue3 was a fucking blight on this gen.
Thank god many publishers and first party studios use their own engines now.
A lot of licensing of UE3 happened out of need after the Renderware exodus.
Long generation resulted in companies having plenty of time to get their internal software up to speed and save money by not having to pay royalties on their engine.
UE4 is failing to acquire many licensees, and nobody is desperate to escape having to pay EA royalties on Renderware this time. Epic didn't do themselves much favors by having piss poor support. If your software stack is good enough, you don't need UE4. If you've built up your UE3 stack, you don't need UE4. Some publishers are still using their stuff built off UE2 on PS4. Some developers are still using engines based off idtech that was old by the time Valve released Source.
The era of engine turnover every few years has passed us by, I think. It's all about the middleware tools now. Programmable texture/vertex/whateverthefuck shaders pretty much genericized engines.
And if anyone has noticed, Epic has been bleeding high profile employees lately.
Long generation resulted in companies having plenty of time to get their internal software up to speed and save money by not having to pay royalties on their engine.
UE4 is failing to acquire many licensees, and nobody is desperate to escape having to pay EA royalties on Renderware this time. Epic didn't do themselves much favors by having piss poor support. If your software stack is good enough, you don't need UE4. If you've built up your UE3 stack, you don't need UE4. Some publishers are still using their stuff built off UE2 on PS4. Some developers are still using engines based off idtech that was old by the time Valve released Source.
The era of engine turnover every few years has passed us by, I think. It's all about the middleware tools now. Programmable texture/vertex/whateverthefuck shaders pretty much genericized engines.
And if anyone has noticed, Epic has been bleeding high profile employees lately.
Also, to add: I believe a GIANT misstep they took was promoting it has next-gen only. Tying your engine to a specific hardware is never good.
If they were smart, they would have released UE4 for 360/PS3, then shown that it was next gen ready with the tech demos they displayed. They wanted people to think UE4 only = megagraphics, though. As it was, developers will transition by releasing their games for 360/PS3 and Xbone/PS4 this holiday season and beyond, meaning they'll do a smooth update of their UE3 codebase or homegrown codebase to the next gen. At that point, it'd be really stupid to throw out all that work and license UE4 and miss out on potential PS3/360 sales because Epic won't provide official support.
They should be porting UE4 to everywhere and everything in sight. This "we'll wait for people to come to us" attitude isn't doing them any favors.
If they were smart, they would have released UE4 for 360/PS3, then shown that it was next gen ready with the tech demos they displayed. They wanted people to think UE4 only = megagraphics, though. As it was, developers will transition by releasing their games for 360/PS3 and Xbone/PS4 this holiday season and beyond, meaning they'll do a smooth update of their UE3 codebase or homegrown codebase to the next gen. At that point, it'd be really stupid to throw out all that work and license UE4 and miss out on potential PS3/360 sales because Epic won't provide official support.
They should be porting UE4 to everywhere and everything in sight. This "we'll wait for people to come to us" attitude isn't doing them any favors.
akachan ningen
Member
another generation of UE=brown jokes...
UnrealEngine
Epic Games
Whoa Whoa Whoa guys. I see a lot of assumptions here...wanted to take a second to clarify a few things.
Where is Unreal Engine!?!
We're still here...lurking in the darkness... MWahahahaha. Ok, no really, Unreal Engine specifically targets events like GDC, and other development centric shows, where Devs go to see, learn, and evaluate. That's why you won't see something like the Infiltrator Demo at E3, but instead will see them at Dev events.
This E3, we focused on meetings with our licensees, and getting them additional support to get their games done and out the door, whichever version of the Engine they use.
What games were at E3 that used Unreal Engine?
We must always be respectful of our licensees first. Oftentimes, we may want to tell you guys about all the goings on, but we have to wait for official announces and releases, and we don't always know exactly how much a company will announce when they do make a release, so we have to be a bit cautious. The last thing we'd want to do is endanger the plans of a licensee.
That said, here is the list of what I know was shown on the show floor or announced at the press conferences that use Unreal Engine 3 or Unreal Engine 4. This does not include any games that were shown in closed meetings or behind closed doors, or anything with an embargo. Some are mobile, some are current gen, some are PC, and some are next gen. Some have not yet released platforms.
(I tried to use trailers from the developer or publisher channels, but in some cases they were using a proprietary player with no share. In those instances, I tried to use reputable press channels)
- D4
- Batman: Arkham Origins
- Blood Masque
- Blacklight Retribution
- Contrast
- Crimson Dragon
- Daylight
- Deadfall Adventures
- Deadpool
- Lost Planet 3
- Magrunner
- Outlast
- Sherlock Holmes: Crimes & Punishments (I believe they've only released a tech demo at this point, as opposed to a trailer)
- Thief
- Yaiba: Niinja Gaiden Z
- Fable Anniversary
There were also games that had some presence, either focused on updates or DLC, but have already been released, like Hawken, Primal Carnage, and Injustice.
If you have any questions...
I'll do my best to answer.
Where is Unreal Engine!?!
We're still here...lurking in the darkness... MWahahahaha. Ok, no really, Unreal Engine specifically targets events like GDC, and other development centric shows, where Devs go to see, learn, and evaluate. That's why you won't see something like the Infiltrator Demo at E3, but instead will see them at Dev events.
This E3, we focused on meetings with our licensees, and getting them additional support to get their games done and out the door, whichever version of the Engine they use.
What games were at E3 that used Unreal Engine?
We must always be respectful of our licensees first. Oftentimes, we may want to tell you guys about all the goings on, but we have to wait for official announces and releases, and we don't always know exactly how much a company will announce when they do make a release, so we have to be a bit cautious. The last thing we'd want to do is endanger the plans of a licensee.
That said, here is the list of what I know was shown on the show floor or announced at the press conferences that use Unreal Engine 3 or Unreal Engine 4. This does not include any games that were shown in closed meetings or behind closed doors, or anything with an embargo. Some are mobile, some are current gen, some are PC, and some are next gen. Some have not yet released platforms.
(I tried to use trailers from the developer or publisher channels, but in some cases they were using a proprietary player with no share. In those instances, I tried to use reputable press channels)
- D4
- Batman: Arkham Origins
- Blood Masque
- Blacklight Retribution
- Contrast
- Crimson Dragon
- Daylight
- Deadfall Adventures
- Deadpool
- Lost Planet 3
- Magrunner
- Outlast
- Sherlock Holmes: Crimes & Punishments (I believe they've only released a tech demo at this point, as opposed to a trailer)
- Thief
- Yaiba: Niinja Gaiden Z
- Fable Anniversary
There were also games that had some presence, either focused on updates or DLC, but have already been released, like Hawken, Primal Carnage, and Injustice.
If you have any questions...
I'll do my best to answer.
The Librarian
Banned
Are you here to just promote the Unreal Engine?
Fried Food
Banned
Sounds like he is here to answer the threads question
Didn't know that the PS4's system architect's game is using Unreal Engine 4. (Source: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-02-20-playstation-4-action-platformer-knack-revealed)
The Abominable Snowman
Member
Daylight and Knack are UE4 games I think. Can you confirm ? Any other on that list ?
Thank you for the post, finally i have the confirmation that Knack uses Unreal Engine.
Just a little question ...do you plan to release some papers of your "Infiltrator" tech demo (like you did with Samaritan)? Can't wait to see the tech behind that amazing demo
JordanN
Banned
Eurogamer seems to be the only site reporting it. Not that I find the game using UE4 unbelievable, although it would be nice if there was another confirmation.
Maybe UnrealEngine can help me out.
He just gave us a nice summary of all UE games that were at E3. That's nice of him.
I didn't know that Knack was UE. Nice.
Seems to be plausible given the fact that Cerny showed a UE4 demo during the PS4 reveal.
- D4 - ?
- Batman: Arkham Origins - UE3
- Blood Masque - UE3
- Blacklight Retribution - UE3
- Contrast - UE3
- Crimson Dragon - UE3
- Daylight - UE4
- Deadfall Adventures - UE3
- Deadpool - UE3
- Lost Planet 3 - UE3
- Magrunner - UE3
- Outlast - UE3
- Thief - UE3
- Yaiba: Niinja Gaiden Z - UE3
- Fable Anniversary - UE3
- Knack - UE4
- Batman: Arkham Origins - UE3
- Blood Masque - UE3
- Blacklight Retribution - UE3
- Contrast - UE3
- Crimson Dragon - UE3
- Daylight - UE4
- Deadfall Adventures - UE3
- Deadpool - UE3
- Lost Planet 3 - UE3
- Magrunner - UE3
- Outlast - UE3
- Thief - UE3
- Yaiba: Niinja Gaiden Z - UE3
- Fable Anniversary - UE3
- Knack - UE4
Will there be a new build of UDK by the end of the year?
Portugeezer
Member
You didn't do a good job answering where UE4 was...
... and now I see why.
To my knowledge Black Tusk's project was the only AAA UE4 game at the show: www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtYWreJmW7Y&hd=1