Why did the owner pay compensation if it didn't injure you? Mental distress?
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My one-year old son was bit by a pit bull last night
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Why did the owner pay compensation if it didn't injure you? Mental distress?
RoninChaos
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You could do the same with my dog in regards to her food. She's incredibly well behaved around children. My two year old niece accidentally pulled on her ear really hard one time, and my dog just yelped. Afterwards my dog looked at my niece like "... why did you do that to me?!" with these sad ass eyes. lol My dog also doesn't take it as a challenge when you look her in the eye, which is why she gets along with kids. They can be on the same level. My son never leaves the house without my dog, because my dog treats my son like she's in charge of protecting him. It's cute. But she's also like that cause of how she was raised. A lot of people treat their animals like shit. We treat my dog like she's part of the family, so she receives the same love, same scolding, etc. It makes a HUGE difference.
ANY DOG CAN BE DANGEROUS (warning, the pictures are a little graphic) Sorry, I didn't realize that DailyMail was banned and there are other examples on the previous page.
People need to be aware of dogs, even small ones.
I'm not suggesting that people should be terrified of dogs, but it's an animal, not a stuffed animal and should be respected as such.
DurielBlack
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I read the OP and first page, sorry for not spending the next two hours of my life reading the other 11 pages. Sue me.
What the fuck am I reading? Twice? The doctor had to glue up the bite?
I can totally understand about the dog biting your wife. Dog was just being defensive.
But when a dog attacks a kid, unprovoked... smh. Totally agree with you about animals and babies.
Yup then it would be another breed, then another, I am a Pit Bull owner like you I have socialized the hell our of her when she was young and take the proper precautions with her. It kind of sucks when people want to condemn a breed when, there are responsible owners out there. It just gets under my skin.
ZombiePlatypus
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I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say. Yeah, it'd probably not turn out well if he took matters into his own hands and put the dog down himself. I'm just blown away that the grandparents don't wanna do that themselves.
Kano on the Phone
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It's an emotional issue so logic goes out the window. You can show them all the good science in the world that shows that pit bulls aren't especially aggressive and they'll cling to confirmation bias and junk science.
Head of Vengarl
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Well now I've heard of people getting attacked by labs. Though it seems really unusual, as they are supposed to be among the most docile dog breeds. Coming from experience (I've had labs basically my entire life) they won't snap even if you deliberately try to provoke them.
Fix the link please.
KernelPanic
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I don't understand how the pit bull breed isn't a factor in all this. I don't hear many(if at all)stories about other breeds attacking people at random. Is it just media bias?
I hear "bad owners" as the cause, there's no bad owners of other breeds which don't seem to attack as often? Only bad dog owners buy pit bulls?
All dogs can bite, how many dogs go for the kill and latch onto your head like that?
A lot of the stories I read sound like the owners were good and responsible and still the pit bull(with no history of aggression) suddenly snaps one day and attacks.
I hear "bad owners" as the cause, there's no bad owners of other breeds which don't seem to attack as often? Only bad dog owners buy pit bulls?
All dogs can bite, how many dogs go for the kill and latch onto your head like that?
A lot of the stories I read sound like the owners were good and responsible and still the pit bull(with no history of aggression) suddenly snaps one day and attacks.
It's the bite that's dangerous. A pit bull's biting power is far greater than what you get from a lab, a beagle, or some other breed. I don't mean to just single out pit bulls though. I feel the same way about rottweilers and dobermans. They need to be regulated to some degree.
I think a lot of pit bull fans are understanding the gun argument right now. Responsibility can remove risk and danger, but under the right circumstances, bad things can happen. Only extremely responsible owners can make sure that those circumstances never materialize (and yes, I support gun ownership for responsible people).
The problem with dogs is that it's just too easy to get one and raise it incorrectly. Be it a lab or a pit bull, it can be dangerous. But compared head to head, that pit bull is capable of far more damage output than that lab.
Pit bulls are just another media scapegoat. Another simple way for humans to avoid understanding a complex issue and taking responsibility for their own actions. Every major veterinary association, from the ASPCA to the Humane Society says the same thing, that pit bulls are not any more dangerous than any other large dog breed. Unfortunately, because of the reputation placed on them by the media over the years, bad owners often choose pit bull like dogs and any attack by a large dog is reported as being a pit bull because it is more sensational (even though the animal's bloodline is rarely if ever verified):
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You also gotta remember this: my gun(s) aren't going to go out on their own and attack people.
An unstable/ill-trained dog, especially a bigger, more aggressive breed, can go out and do serious damage of its own accord. So while it can be compared to gun ownership on some merits, the whole 'inanimate object vs living creature' thing also makes it an unfair comparison.
Very true. I'm just trying to find some common ground here, but it's not a perfect 1:1 comparison.
It's a hard thing to compare, I think. Also, very sorry for what happened to your son. My son is a bit over 1.5 years and I have almost smashed my aunt's small dog which snapped at him a couple of times. I hope everything works out OK and that he recovers with minimal scarring/trauma.
Kano on the Phone
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I wasn't trying to call you out specifically. I don't disagree with what you're saying about responsibility, I just think that's not the conversation people are having. I was more so talking about previous posters where one guy posted some junky study about one urban hospital and another just said the breed needed to be ended. Things like that where brains go out the window and no one is having a conversation anymore.
We do have a dog as well. Here's our little monster, Bowser.
In the end, this was a close call that was aggravating and annoying. It will teach our son some caution, however. It's a bad way to learn it, but both my kids know very well what dogs are capable of. They crawl all over Bowser and he's fine with it, but now they understand that dogs are like people, and they're not all big, dopey, and playful creatures.
In the end, this was a close call that was aggravating and annoying. It will teach our son some caution, however. It's a bad way to learn it, but both my kids know very well what dogs are capable of. They crawl all over Bowser and he's fine with it, but now they understand that dogs are like people, and they're not all big, dopey, and playful creatures.
Foghorn Leghorn
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Yeah about 3 months apart. Just kind if a tiny gash, from the sharp puppy teeth. I would have just put some peroxide on it, but my wife took him in. The doc said it happens all the time.
I think this isn't so much a pit bull debate (I'm in they attract to many asshole owners camp) but more your in-laws being utterly irresponsible.
If they want to keep the pet, they better have a stronger plan for keeping him away from kids (the nephews/nieces you mentioned). And it's something I would get a concession from or severe ties, because its pretty stupid.
R10Neymarfan
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When I saw the title of the thread I knew the GAF witchunt on a breed of dog will begin
You guys are the ignorant hive mind of society. Thought you guys were different smh...
Then again I should have known better from countless other threads
You guys are the ignorant hive mind of society. Thought you guys were different smh...
Then again I should have known better from countless other threads
^ Wow, that was a quick judgement.
I'm surprised you still let him play with the dog after that.
I'm surprised you still let him play with the dog after that.
Kano on the Phone
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That's cool, man. I'm glad everyone is ok and that's what you're taking away from it.
I really think some dogs are perfectly safe. My 15.5 years old dog (who died last July) absolutely never attacked anyone. I know it doesn't sound rational, but I truly knew he would never do it, and with total confidence I'd tell people he was harmless. He was half poodle and half maltese. His personality was simply not that of an aggressive dog, at 10 years of age I introduced him somewhat irresponsibly to a young rabbit and he just licked him (I still separated them as soon as I noticed).
Bleeeh, I'll never have such a great dog again. It's better to be safe than sorry, I guess, as you simply can't generalize based on one dog.
Bleeeh, I'll never have such a great dog again. It's better to be safe than sorry, I guess, as you simply can't generalize based on one dog.
triplestation
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fuck that dogOk, here's the full story...not quite as vicious as originally relayed, but still ridiculous.
My wife had Jason (our 1-year old) in the bathroom with her. She was taking him with her to avoid letting him walk around the house by himself. She had been doing this the whole trip, actually. Anyway, our 4-year old, Tyson, was out in the living room on the couch, playing with his tablet. My brother-in-law, who is 15, was playing Xbox on the couch next to him.
Jason started pounding on the door, wanting out. My wife had put the dog out, so she called out to Tyson and told him to watch Jason for a minute. It was literally going to be less than a minute. Jason walked out to Tyson and was watching him play. Someone went and let the dog in, and it came up to my kids. My brother-in-law at this point was supposed to put her back out, but he kept on with his game.
My older son, grabbed Jason's hand and started to move him back, because he'd seen us move him away from the dog the whole time. When he pulled on Jason, the dog snapped. Luckily he was pulling on Jason, because it caused it to just graze him rather than clamp down. At that my wife was coming back into the room and she grabbed Jason and my brother-in-law had pulled the dog back. My father-in-law was on the other side of the room and he was just dumbfounded.
Scary situation, and it's more of a close call than something serious. Thank goodness.
Here he is late last night, after he got treatment. He has another puncture lower on his cheek, which is the one that will scar. That one next to his eye should not. The cut on his forehead most definitely will scar.
Stupid question, i live in the UK anyway
Can you just take a dog in to be put down for whatever reason?
neoism
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no no I've had 4 dogs in the past 20 years and 3 have died...
Misty died at 19 years she was old and in real bad shape.. mom took her to the vet without telling me..
Mickey died at 9 years poisoned by something he ate.. I cried for days... my favorite dog ever
Chole died last November she had stomach problems... I buried Mickey and Chole myself... made them a nice grave. <3
My dog now is Zander 2 year Rat Terrier doesn't afraid of anything.
I meant what I said though I'm talking about a real bite.. I would fuckem up.. but I've always had a ways with dogs...
<3 Dogs
Like dogs more than people lol ;p
when i read the op today on my commute to work i got really really angry at the dog as well. But as a father of a 1 1/2 year old and owner of a big dog from one of those "bad breads" (no pit bull) i thought about the situation way more.
1. If my dog ever attacks my daughter ,like the ops did, his live is over. I love him very much but my kid is like 10.00000 levels above everything.
2. i would have been at the local hospital within not more than 10 min. after the attack.
3. if the dog is not mine but lets say my parents dog. And they won't remove him they wouldn't see my kid around their house ever again. In case of the op i would also seriously send a big big fuck you to the father in law and at least have a big debate with my wife if she still protects the dog too.
I don´t want to shit on you op but honestly, not taking you kid to the hospital right after the attack is seriously bad parenting. Even if it might have been expensive - so what? The kid is worth way way more than any money in the world.
yeah but whatever
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seeing those pictures, thinking this would be my kid i would seriously go wild at the dog and its owners, no shit.
1. If my dog ever attacks my daughter ,like the ops did, his live is over. I love him very much but my kid is like 10.00000 levels above everything.
2. i would have been at the local hospital within not more than 10 min. after the attack.
3. if the dog is not mine but lets say my parents dog. And they won't remove him they wouldn't see my kid around their house ever again. In case of the op i would also seriously send a big big fuck you to the father in law and at least have a big debate with my wife if she still protects the dog too.
I don´t want to shit on you op but honestly, not taking you kid to the hospital right after the attack is seriously bad parenting. Even if it might have been expensive - so what? The kid is worth way way more than any money in the world.
yeah but whatever
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seeing those pictures, thinking this would be my kid i would seriously go wild at the dog and its owners, no shit.
Misty died at 19 years she was old and in real bad shape.. mom took her to the vet without telling me..
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I had a black lab named Misty. Went to camp, came back, no more Misty. Dad took her to the vet. Shame, seems that dogs named Misty get shafted.
blainethemono
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Well said.
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vas_a_morir
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Got bit by a dog tonight!
It was a yip yip chihuahua type dog.
It's name is Barkley. I call him 'Bitely"
Did it hurt? Well, I don't know how to explain it. I laughed it off with a smile, but If I were 11 or younger, I probably would have cried. lol
It was a yip yip chihuahua type dog.
It's name is Barkley. I call him 'Bitely"
Did it hurt? Well, I don't know how to explain it. I laughed it off with a smile, but If I were 11 or younger, I probably would have cried. lol
The One and Done
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Parents fault. Poor kid.
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Retro_
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Yes.
This is my biggest fear of having a child. You want them to grow up close with your pet and have them develop a mutual fondness of each other like in the movies.
but the reality is more like this. It just takes one isolated incident to set off what could be a lifetime of preventable consequences.
Not that it means much but you have my sincerest condolences OP.
Really hoping that there's no long term issues with your son as a result of this.
Edit: saw the update. Glad it's not as serious as it could have been.
but I mean that the dog even drew blood is a reason to be concerned.
MilesWebber
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Definitly the dogs fault and not the fault of anyone who let a one year old hang around with an 80lbs animal with sharp teeth.
Yup. Definily the dog.
I don't care how friendly the dog is. If there's a fucking BABY around, you put that dog in a kennel.
Yup. Definily the dog.
I don't care how friendly the dog is. If there's a fucking BABY around, you put that dog in a kennel.
People would be very surprised what dog body language means.
A dog yawning and turning its head away as you approach will often mean it wants you to leave it alone. If that is ignored, the more common signs of aggression might show. The baring of teeth, and growling. Maybe even a bark. But even these signs can be barely noticeable to a human.
In addition, many people think a dog wagging its tail is happy. In reality it actually means it's alert. However, dogs don't pant unless they're relaxed. So if a dog is panting and wagging its tail, you can safely assume it's in a friendly mood. The mistake people make is thinking that a dog with a wagging tail is safe to approach. It may not be the case at all unless you know the other body language signs to look for.
This.
All adults involved in this scenario are at fault.
We have a Golden Retriever whose mother works as a therapy dog with handicapped children. Our dog is very friendly towards children, but we would never leave her alone with a kid. Ever.
Thinking that a dog and a child would get along just fine without adult supervision is incredibly stupid and indeed a recipe for disaster. Don't blame the dog prematurely, pretty much every pet would be overwhelmed when put into a room alone with 2 kids present. Especially if they aren't used to having children around them. This situation should have been avoided at all costs by both the dog's owner and the parents.
I'm not too fond of pit bulls myself, but this accident we're talking about here could have happened with pretty much every kind of dog breed.
So two people close to you had been bitten by seemingly docile pit bulls and yet your wife thought it was ok to leave her 1-year-old child within reach of one? Seems like everyone in that room but the child and the dog were to blame, starting with your wife.
vas_a_morir
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I agree. The kid shouldn't have been talkin' shit. Give that dog a mofuckin' Beggin' Strip for keepin' shit real.
I'm six pages in on the thread, but one of the worst things about it is that so many people are damning the dog ("Kill it! Euthanize the breed!") when we've heard one side of the story. Maybe the kid poked the dog in the eye? Maybe something else happened? Then again, what OP said could be true, too. Just remember, there are three sides to every story: yours, theirs, and the truth.
EDIT: I've now seen the full side of the OP's story but for people to shout "KILL THEM ALL!" from the original post, a small paragraph from a justifiably upset parent, is a bummer.
EDIT: I've now seen the full side of the OP's story but for people to shout "KILL THEM ALL!" from the original post, a small paragraph from a justifiably upset parent, is a bummer.
Albino_Samurai
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I don't know every single detail and i hate speculation, but how come the wife never even thought of keeping the child far from reach from the dog in the first place?
Yep the defenseless/IQless dog and baby are either at fault here. Not them parents/supervisors/guys with enough sense to keep biting dogs away from infants
Mr. Enigma
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I love how OP's first priority was to come bitch on Gaf about it instead of, you know, take his son to get medical treatment. :lol
Keep dogs away from babies. They are on the same size level and dogs get really confused. Some react badly.
Keep dogs away from babies. They are on the same size level and dogs get really confused. Some react badly.
Jeff-DSA was in Utah and the wife and kid were visiting in California.
Mr. Enigma
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Okay, that explains things a little better. The first few pages were a bit chaotic.
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