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Bullshots: How close did PS4/XB1 games come to the E3 builds? Let's see!
- Thread starter chubigans
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Xbox One's hardware isn't powerful enough to properly handle Native 1080p & 60 FPS without big compromises/sacrifices.
Turn 10 should've at least had this game in 900p w/60 FPS.
Jack Scofield
Member
The haze in that Killzone shot really adds to the scale. Shame it isn't in the final game.
I haven't played Forza 5 yet, does the final game look anything like this?
Not during actual gameplay. The replay mode looks pretty close to that.
Edit: Minus the dynamic lighting. So no, I guess the final game never really looks like that.
It's an Ubisoft game, of course they're going to take one moderately interesting idea and make it tedious and boring.
That GIF is from The Division, not Watch_Doge.
RugbyPlayer
Banned
Seriously? the first 3 posts i saw say that killzone matches 1:1? Its not even close, the clarity on the first building is no where near what the reveal was. not even close
Wishmaster92
Member
No
Hey op, i found these screens that are much better quality if you want to add them.
Dalibor_San
Member
Welp I'm not rewarding Turn10 for this shit, I'll cancel my pre-order for this game, I was already 50/50 on it, however now that I know they cut corners for a few things, I'll reward them by buying the GOTY version for $20!
weekend_warrior
Banned
Top looks much better, that's the E3 version isn't it?
ElfArmy177
Member
the irony in that statement this Gen...
No
Hey op, i found these screens that are much better quality if you want to add them.
Is the one with his helmet on the E3 reveal or the release capture? The pic where he has his helmet on has higher resolution textures on the mountain on the left, what looks like more detailed armor (although that's hard to judge since they look like two different armor sets), and a chain mail under armor that's casting a pretty sweet shadow on his arm. It also looks generally sharper, image without the helmet looks blurred.
None of those are major differences that would pop out to me as I played the games but in a side by side they're noticeable.
Yeah I prefer the top one too, the character model is much better, the flying rock is better on the bottom one though. The background on both look a blurry mess though.
UnObtainium17
Member
I think KZ and Ryse improved, all others bulshotted.
Dat Killzone downgrade. The lighting and color looked more natural in the original, the waterfall seemed more pronounced/less flat, Reflections everywhere.
The AA seems a little better in the newer pic at least. And what happened to those clouds and the space ships in the newer build..
The AA seems a little better in the newer pic at least. And what happened to those clouds and the space ships in the newer build..
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
Never mind the textures, where the hell is the lighting meant to be coming from in the second picture? There's a big ass shadow on the building in the background being cast by seemingly nothing. If the lighting is coming slightly diagonally from the direction of the camera (which the soldiers arm shadow suggests) then why are the front of the castle walls in shadow?
Am I taking crazy pills or does that whole picture make no sense?
RugbyPlayer
Banned
Seriously, people nitpicked the hell out of the forza difference but completely ignore massive ones in killzone. The reflections, the shrubbery on the ground its significantly less detailed, the individual floor seperation on the tallest building is no where near as clear as it was
Wishmaster92
Member
He get's the armor in the following mission because he was promoted.
Wishmaster92
Member
I love how the bottom picture is jaggie free. The jaggies in the top picture are distracting as hell.
Y'know other than the insane resolution and AA, I'd say the final game looks better.
can someone take a screenshot of this moment in-game?
If anyone wants an actual reference point for the final version of Forza 5, there's high quality footage up at Digital Foundry of both gameplay and replay footage. I grabbed some quick snips as gifs in another thread. There's nothing too fancy about these, they're from the standard replay angles from the retail release.
Also, bonus roadside insanity gif that's a little larger, so I'll just leave that as a link.
Worth noting the changes to trackside detail from reveal to release. From my overview, the examples below were representative of the majority of the track detail changes. They're taken from direct-feed gameplay and the highest-resolution available from the gameplay reveal. Elements were moved around a lot, but the tendency was to have both geometry and texture-work improved from reveal. There are also some instanced where buildings in certain stretches saw less window detail, or particular shadows were moved, but the overall impression was more realistic lighting (at the expense of videogame-style color saturation and contrast).
Example 1
Example 2
Example 3
Also, bonus roadside insanity gif that's a little larger, so I'll just leave that as a link.
Worth noting the changes to trackside detail from reveal to release. From my overview, the examples below were representative of the majority of the track detail changes. They're taken from direct-feed gameplay and the highest-resolution available from the gameplay reveal. Elements were moved around a lot, but the tendency was to have both geometry and texture-work improved from reveal. There are also some instanced where buildings in certain stretches saw less window detail, or particular shadows were moved, but the overall impression was more realistic lighting (at the expense of videogame-style color saturation and contrast).
Example 1
Example 2
Example 3
Running with much higher image quality with higher resolutions and higher levels of detail and post processed effects require, you know, more hardware grunt than what is available. That killzone looks great is the result of guerrilla's fantastic artistry, but super sampled reveal footage with crazy AA means "bullshot"
noonespecial
Member
Oh my God this thread delivered the goods.
LMAO at all the Forza crowd nonsense and photoshopped crowd shots. Bravo GAF! Made my day...
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LMAO at all the Forza crowd nonsense and photoshopped crowd shots. Bravo GAF! Made my day...
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rokkerkory
Member
I don't see a huge downgrade in some of these games.
shrugs.
shrugs.
Anticitizen One
Banned
Forza is just sloppy
NTIETS13A_Superiority
Banned
KZ got some massive upgrades. And some minor downgrades (edit. well from uber high res press shots res ofcourse took major hit 
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Ryse is way bigger mix of downs and ups. Looks great anyway (at least when not getting too close to anything. Not holding up as well upclose)
EA is lol. Forza paid some hefty price for 1080/60.
Needs more comparasions.
. Ryse is way bigger mix of downs and ups. Looks great anyway (at least when not getting too close to anything. Not holding up as well upclose)
EA is lol. Forza paid some hefty price for 1080/60.
Needs more comparasions.
abracadaver
Member
Dead Rising 3 was announced as 1080p but the release is 720p
Are there comparison screenshots ?
Are there comparison screenshots ?
hokagespit
Member
Forza:
That crowd...
You can even see it in the shot up there. Look at the crowd. The E3 one is all shaded and not obvious. The launch one is all shit straight out of Mortal Kombat 1.
i didnt know this happened anymore! what is this a a n64 wrestling game?
robertsan21
Member
rise looks more blurry now than during the reveal.
Forza looks, worse hahaha that crowd!
killzone looks better now than at the reveal IMPRESSIVE
Forza looks, worse hahaha that crowd!
killzone looks better now than at the reveal IMPRESSIVE
Forza:
That crowd...
You can even see it in the shot up there. Look at the crowd. The E3 one is all shaded and not obvious. The launch one is all shit straight out of Mortal Kombat 1.
this can't be real
i refuse to believe
katsubento
Member
Killzone is even better at times in the final.
Everything else is not so much.
EA: Fail
Everything else is not so much.
EA: Fail
CosmicGroinPull
Member
Forza:
That crowd...
You can even see it in the shot up there. Look at the crowd. The E3 one is all shaded and not obvious. The launch one is all shit straight out of Mortal Kombat 1.
Could it be that The Cloud wasn't done loading the spectator polygons, textures, lighting, and AI reactions?
The_Afroman
Member
Backfoggen
Banned
It's pretty bad. Like they said "We can't lock 60 fps on this level so everyone just stand in front of this camera real quick" during like the last week of development.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
Madden and NBA Live are the only real insults. And neither of those are surprising.
The Forza crowd is pretty hilarious though.
The Forza crowd is pretty hilarious though.