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How companies make millions off lead-poisoned, poor blacks - WaPo

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WedgeX

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Courtesy the Washington Post.

The letter arrived in April last year, a mishmash of strange numbers and words. This at first did not alarm Rose. Most letters are that way for her — frustrating puzzles she can’t solve. Rose, who can scarcely read or write, calls herself a “lead kid.” Her childhood home, where lead paint chips blanketed her bedsheets like snowflakes, “affected me really bad,” she says. “In everything I do.”

She says she can’t work a professional job. She can’t live alone. And, she says, she surely couldn’t understand this letter.

So on that April day, the 20-year-old says she asked her mom to give it a look. Her mother glanced at the words, then back at her daughter. “What does this mean all of your payments were sold to a third party?” her mother recalls saying.

...

The reality, however, was substantially different. Rose sold everything to Access Funding — 420 monthly lead checks between 2017 and 2052. They amounted to a total of nearly $574,000 and had a present value of roughly $338,000.

In return, Access Funding paid her less than $63,000.

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Before his April death after being severely injured in police custody, before this hollowed-out city plunged into rioting, the life of Freddie Gray was a case study in the effect of lead paint on poor blacks. The lead poisoning Gray suffered as a child may have contributed to his difficulties with learning, truancy and arrests — all of it culminating in a 2008 lead-paint lawsuit and a windfall of cash locked inside a structured settlement. By late 2013, Gray was striking deals with Access Funding.

People like Gray who have suffered lead-poisoning as children are especially vulnerable to predatory transactions. Many are impulsive and mentally disabled, but not so much that the law regards them as incapable of acting on their own behalf, as long as they’re 18.

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Access Funding, located in Chevy Chase, isn’t the biggest player in the industry. But the company’s court documents nonetheless illuminate the mechanics of this trade, as well as how little scrutiny it receives. The firm has filed nearly 200 structured settlement purchases in Maryland since 2013. A review of two-thirds of those cases, which primarily funnel through one judge’s courtroom in Prince George’s County Circuit Court, shows nearly three-fourths involved victims of lead poisoning.

Every case spells out the deal’s worth. It lists the aggregate value of the lead victim’s payments, their present value and the agreed purchase price. A random survey of 52 of those deals shows Access Funding generally offers to pay around 33 cents on the present value of a dollar. Sometimes, it offers more. And sometimes, much less. One 24-year-old lead victim sold nearly $327,000 worth of payments, which had a present value of $179,000, for less than $16,200 — or about 9 cents on the dollar. Another relinquished $256,000 worth of payments, which had a present value of $166,000, for $35,000 — or about 21 cents on the dollar.

Taken together, the sample shows Access Funding petitioned to buy roughly $6.9 million worth of future payments — which had a present value of $5.3 million — for around $1.7 million.

These "instant cash for structured settlement payout" companies are scum. Right up there with payday loan companies.
 

Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Well, we know another John Oliver skit coming up soon.
 

Casimir

Unconfirmed Member
The real shame is the right has convinced the poor to hate the poor.


I don't know what you're talking about. If the government would get out of the way with it's regulation of businesses and job creators, things like this wouldn't happen.
 

Bboy AJ

My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
So the victims voluntarily took a lump sum payout as opposed to payments over time?
 
This is really fucked up.

My office tells all of our clients to avoid these type of companies.

Many don't listen. Especially the ones that are less fortunate.
 
So the victims voluntarily took a lump sum payout as opposed to payments over time?

Some may have, but it's hard to tell if it's voluntary or involuntary, as mentioned in the article in the OP:

People like Gray who have suffered lead-poisoning as children are especially vulnerable to predatory transactions. Many are impulsive and mentally disabled, but not so much that the law regards them as incapable of acting on their own behalf, as long as they’re 18.

The lead poisoning has affected the mental state of these people. It's hard for my grandparents to not fall for scams, just like it would be hard for these people to not fall for them as well. Factor in that they're in poor neighborhoods, they don't really understand the legal system and what the settlement means, and someone tells them they can have X amount now instead of x amount over time when money is sure to be tight, and the bigger number seems attractive every time.

What the company should have done, ethically, is offer to set up some form of investment for them so they get an allowance and then also have some form of long term savings for emergencies and / or retirement, for a nominal investment fee. Sort of like a settlement financial advisor, or someone who would help people who win the lottery not lose all their money because they've never had that much income.

But instead they took the cost of paying these people out up front because they can afford it, and in return paid in some cases less than 10 cents for every dollar the settlement was to give them for their misfortune of being affected by lead poisoning, and made 3.5 million dollars off these people.
 

Bboy AJ

My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
I see. It's predatory for sure. I won't edit my post and let's see how many people want to grand stand.
 

WedgeX

Banned
So the victims voluntarily took a lump sum payout as opposed to payments over time?

Due to laws allowing structured settlements as opposed to lump sum settlements by those that have broken the law, companies/law firms have jumped in to take advantage of those in poverty and those with intellectual disabilities/cognitive delays to offer them any where from $0.09 to $0.30 on the dollar for a meager lump sum while collecting the remaining payouts. These companies are able to do so by working with affiliated lawyers and "advocates" as well as county judges who give the cases a rubber stamp.
 

Casimir

Unconfirmed Member
I must be missing something, where is all of this lead coming from?

Peeling and flaking lead paint on and in older housing. A combination that often still exists in Gettos and other low income areas.

Sad thing is I can't tell if you're serious

The idea that "regulation and the (liberal) government is bad" is the thought process for many in America.
 

novenD

Member
I didn't believe it was possible to have a business scummier than a payday loan chain.

I should have known better.
 
Lead paint on the walls of old buildings.
Huh, lead paint has been mostly eradicated where I live. I didn't expect it to still be such a big problem. I'm guessing the authorities in this poor black areas aren't educating their citizens on how to deal with lead paint.
 
I must be missing something, where is all of this lead coming from?

From the article in the OP:

Rose, who can scarcely read or write, calls herself a “lead kid.” Her childhood home, where lead paint chips blanketed her bedsheets like snowflakes, “affected me really bad,” she says. “In everything I do.”

In the past, poor communities often were built by companies who would cut corners because they knew they could. As such, lead paint was widely used in the early 90s, and a lot of kids who grew up in those communities, like this article states:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/freddie-grays-life-a-study-in-the-sad-effects-of-lead-paint-on-poor-blacks/2015/04/29/0be898e6-eea8-11e4-8abc-d6aa3bad79dd_story.html

But it wasn’t always this way. When Gray lived here between 1992 and 1996, paint chips flaked off the walls and littered the hardwood floor, according to a 2008 lawsuit filed in Baltimore City Circuit Court. The front window­sills shed white strips of paint.

Have had serious developmental issues decades later as a result.

I grew up in the suburbs in 1992. If I had grown up in the projects, I might not have been posting on GAF.

Huh, lead paint has been mostly eradicated where I live. I didn't expect it to still be such a big problem. I'm guessing the authorities in this poor black areas aren't educating their citizens on how to deal with lead paint.

The thing is, it may not be as prevalent now (but it could still be around, who knows) but the affects on the mental state of children who grew up in these houses is really starting to show as they come to the age of adulthood, which is why the settlements started occurring only a few years ago.
 

ezrarh

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Huh, lead paint has been mostly eradicated where I live. I didn't expect it to still be such a big problem. I'm guessing the authorities in this poor black areas aren't educating their citizens on how to deal with lead paint.

If we divert some of our drug war money toward eliminating lead in our low income communities, we'd probably see a big drop in crime.
 

Htown

STOP SHITTING ON MY MOTHER'S HEADSTONE
Why did I read the comments?

I think it was actually a good decision.

Helps to see how things stay the way they are. When a common response to an article about a lead-poisoned, vulnerable black people is "what about black on black crime" and "people in those neighborhoods buy drugs", you can see very clearly that the real problem is that no one gives a shit because this isn't little Becky from down the street being affected; it's just one of THOSE people.
 

commedieu

Banned
I think it was actually a good decision.

Helps to see how things stay the way they are. When a common response to an article about a lead-poisoned, vulnerable black people is "what about black on black crime" and "people in those neighborhoods buy drugs", you can see very clearly that the real problem is that no one gives a shit because this isn't little Becky from down the street being affected; it's just one of THOSE people.

Thank you. Everyone needs to stop pretending America doesn't have significant racial problems.

No one gives a shit, because no one gives a shit. This has been happening.
 
this is the first time I've heard of lead paint (in its entirety), but especially as affecting mostly black people? I'm assuming it's basically 'you're poor, so here is some lead stuff and we don't care', but that sounded a little 'huh?' to me.

offtopic:
It also made me think of the many different thesis (like, dozens) that I've read on why crime dropped spectacularly in New York in the '90s, and yet none of them have considered lead poisoning as an explanation. Those of you who have read Freakonomics may recognize the legal abortion argument they made, yet the year of lead becoming illegal seems to be a match for it and was permanent instead of temporary, making it a better fit for the data. Strange how that never occurred to anyone writing on that topic.

/offtopic


I think I've heard of this shit before though. Or the same practise, but a slightly different topic. Either way, scum predation on disadvantaged people is pretty much a given anywhere. :(
 

entremet

Member
How common is this lead poisoning? I've never heard of it.

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Seems like a regional thing. It was common in public and tenement style housing.

Lawsuits happened decades ago after research showed its affects on brain development. Lawyers got really rich.
 

oneils

Member
this is the first time I've heard of lead paint (in its entirety), but especially as affecting mostly black people? I'm assuming it's basically 'you're poor, so here is some lead stuff and we don't care', but that sounded a little 'huh?' to me.

offtopic:
It also made me think of the many different thesis (like, dozens) that I've read on why crime dropped spectacularly in New York in the '90s, and yet none of them have considered lead poisoning as an explanation. Those of you who have read Freakonomics may recognize the legal abortion argument they made, yet the year of lead becoming illegal seems to be a match for it and was permanent instead of temporary, making it a better fit for the data. Strange how that never occurred to anyone writing on that topic.
(btw: if you're thinking: "education, race, and crime aren't related, you racist fuck", you are unfortunately wrong, and this is pretty much a social fact at this point, especially in the US. Whether all the arrests and cases that causes that -huge- discrepancy are actually legit, is the question you're looking for.)
/offtopic


I think I've heard of this shit before though. Or the same practise, but a slightly different topic. Either way, scum predation on disadvantaged people is pretty much a given anywhere. :(

There is lots of literature linking the introduction of unleaded gasoline to the dropping crime rate. The new version of cosmos has an episode dedicated to it, you can catch it on Netflix.
 

WedgeX

Banned
How common is this lead poisoning? I've never heard of it.

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It was very common. Really surprising that people have not heard of it. The Romans suffered mightily from it. It's still a huge problem in many modern cities due to the lead released by factories and from leaded gas prior that persists in soil despite it having been banned since the 1980s. My dad gets checked yearly, if not more, due to working around lead paint at a historic museum. My mentor's daughter had elevated lead levels in 2009 from a suburban home due to traces of lead paint. It's so common that approximately one in twenty pre-schoolers have elevated lead levels in their blood and that Michigan mandated lead testing for families in the WIC program within the last 15 years to help prevent poisoning.
 

Casimir

Unconfirmed Member
How common is this lead poisoning? I've never heard of it.

That's not surprising, lead was banned for house paint use in 1978. The cases such as this are due to older homes painted prior to the ban, and lacking the necessary remediation. The lawsuits in question are due to unscrupulous landlords, who are responsible for the remediation, not taking the necessary steps to protect their tenants.
 
My current apartment was built pre lead pant ban, though thankfully i've not noticed any pant chips, most having been stripped and repainted with latex paint ages ago.

Still, my baby will get a lead check at his 12 month checkup, as is routine, to check for any lead build ups. Thankfully we should be out of this aparetment soon though.

As for these lump sum scams? They tend to pray on anyone who suddenly comes into money who isn't previously rich. Settlements, lotto winnings, any other sorts of large publicly known payments.

It's why it's so vital to have a financial adverser, a legit one, when this sort of thing happens. You will get barraged by all sorts of lump sum lenders, bogus charities, etc.
 
This is how angry i am after reading this
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Odoul

Member
Messed up.

I actually couldn't finish the entire article.

Got to the part about the agent Brendan taking the lead lady out to a nice restaurant and had to close it.

After so many years of shaking it off I think story after story of people saying in word and action "I hate your black ass." is starting to get me down.
 
My current apartment was built pre lead pant ban, though thankfully i've not noticed any pant chips, most having been stripped and repainted with latex paint ages ago.

Still, my baby will get a lead check at his 12 month checkup, as is routine, to check for any lead build ups. Thankfully we should be out of this aparetment soon though.

As for these lump sum scams? They tend to pray on anyone who suddenly comes into money who isn't previously rich. Settlements, lotto winnings, any other sorts of large publicly known payments.

It's why it's so vital to have a financial adverser, a legit one, when this sort of thing happens. You will get barraged by all sorts of lump sum lenders, bogus charities, etc.


Adviser, although this typo is inadvertently funny.
 
Some may have, but it's hard to tell if it's voluntary or involuntary, as mentioned in the article in the OP:



The lead poisoning has affected the mental state of these people. It's hard for my grandparents to not fall for scams, just like it would be hard for these people to not fall for them as well. Factor in that they're in poor neighborhoods, they don't really understand the legal system and what the settlement means, and someone tells them they can have X amount now instead of x amount over time when money is sure to be tight, and the bigger number seems attractive every time.

What the company should have done, ethically, is offer to set up some form of investment for them so they get an allowance and then also have some form of long term savings for emergencies and / or retirement, for a nominal investment fee. Sort of like a settlement financial advisor, or someone who would help people who win the lottery not lose all their money because they've never had that much income.

But instead they took the cost of paying these people out up front because they can afford it, and in return paid in some cases less than 10 cents for every dollar the settlement was to give them for their misfortune of being affected by lead poisoning, and made 3.5 million dollars off these people.

I don't think you understand what went on. These people had a payment coming in every month from a structured lawsuit settlement, like you suggested in the ethical idea, and then this company bought those payments from them.
 
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