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8-4 Play 10/21/2016: SWITCHEROO

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8-4 Play 10/21/2016: SWITCHEROO
Switching it up a bit with an emergency podcast all about Nintendo’s surprise console announcement.

Running Time: 49:32
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Time – Topic Discussed:
1:11 – Nintendo Switch
46:16 – Closing Comments
 
I was hoping they would do something like this. Waiting a week before they talked about the Switch reveal would be way to long!
 

Malus

Member
Funny they say it's stylish looking compared to wii and wii u. Personally I think it's the spitting image of a router. At least the Wii had the stand that tilted it. Gave it a little personality.
 

Dylan

Member
Nice to hear the gang become excited about something again.


I think one mega huge strength of the Switch is how it has the ability to weasel itself into the public eye. That is, even if we only get a steady trickle of AAA Nintendo games, for the few months after each (Zelda, Mario, etc) we are going to see people on trains and buses playing these games regularly. So even through the people who buy a Nintendo console and play 3-4 games a year, the exposure these games receive might be magnified simply due to the ease at which people can bring them on the go.

Even though I think Mark is right in saying 'regular' people will probably never carry the Switch around regularly, it might not be a stretch to say these people might carry a Switch around for a few weeks while they play through Zelda and then stash it away until the next game comes out. And if all these people are playing the same game for those few weeks, it has potential to become the "hot topic" du jour; particularly if social hooks come baked into the games.
 
I think Mark is onto something. Kids want a tablet, but parents don't want them having a tablet that has Tinder and F2P games with pornographic ads. However I think a lot of people are comfortable giving their children hand me down tablets.
 

Dylan

Member
I think Mark is onto something. Kids want a tablet, but parents don't want them having a tablet that has Tinder and F2P games with pornographic ads. However I think a lot of people are comfortable giving their children hand me down tablets.

Nintendo needs to get into the dating app game in my opinion.

Like say you match with an attractive person but they are a bit short. Just drag a
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over their profile and voila! Now Terrance is 6'2". You can use a
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too, if you're into that kind of thing.
 

Camwi

Member
I'll ask again in this thread - why do you guys wait until the next week to list the music from the previous episode? I can't remember which music I really liked by the time the next episode comes around.

Btw, thanks for making an emergency episode.
 

Kyoufu

Member
I think I'm on #TeamCard, but if I'm having a conversation about the Switch and someone says cart I'll understand what they mean instead of thinking back to the giant 8/16-bit cartridges.

Thanks for the emergency podcast BTW, nice to not have to wait another week for the Switch reactions.
 

Oregano

Member
I think people might overestimate the price of some components.

Tegra chips are usually super cheap and we don't know what kind of deal Nintendo has with Nvidia considering their level of involvement.

720p displays are also super standard and cheap, especially compared to the cutting edge 3D screen. Multitouch screens probably don't cost much more either.

The only/main thing that stands out as possibly expensive is the joy-con controllers.

I guess we'll see though.

Also might be worth adding that the Shield Tablet has a console mode that turns off the screen and renders in a higher res so that feature wouldn't be a massive surprise.
 

PillarEN

Member
I think Mark is onto something. Kids want a tablet, but parents don't want them having a tablet that has Tinder and F2P games with pornographic ads. However I think a lot of people are comfortable giving their children hand me down tablets.
Which games would have those? Or are you talking about ads with Kate Upton having more clothes on than the average woman at a beach?

This thread needs a 3DS Card/Cart poll. End the war!
Carts.
 
Did the Famitsu story about SKU regional variants break in time for recording? I am convinced Nintendo needs some kind of very cheap, sub-$200 maybe even sub-$150 version of the Switch out in time for Pokemon. You guys talked a lot about form factor and portability so I wonder if they'd even release some kind of Switch Mini down the line.
 

Anth0ny

Member
Mark is right, thing is DOA if it can't appeal to the Pokemon crowd, which is children. Any higher than $250 is a bad sign. $199 would be great.
 
I really don't see Nintendo continuing to develop 2DS games in 2 years. They're going all in on the Switch. Maybe they'll release a smaller form-factor Switch
 

mcw

Member
720p displays are also super standard and cheap, especially compared to the cutting edge 3D screen. Multitouch screens probably don't cost much more either.

That doesn't seem right. Not saying you're wrong, just that I would be very surprised. Can you provide any supporting evidence for this? It's been my main fear regarding the eventual Switch price and I'd love to be wrong about it.
 
Which games would have those? Or are you talking about ads with Kate Upton having more clothes on than the average woman at a beach?
I once overheard a parent saying their child is never playing that again after spotting a pornographic ad. It was an endless runner.
 
I think you try to sell Switch to adults in the Spring and then open up to kids during Holiday 2017 with bundles. I can't see Nintendo ever leaving out kids. But I think it's easier to aim more at 20 somethings early on like PlayStation always did.
 
I once overheard a parent saying their child is never playing that again after spotting a pornographic ad. It was an endless runner.
I would have to assume that Nintendo outright disallows anybody publishing on NS from using ad networks in their apps, or only allows an ad network they heavily police themselves.
 

Thoraxes

Member
I started questioning whether or not I got paid this week seeing this pop up, haha.

Gonna listen to this on my drive to work!
 

popo

Member
I suspect Nintendo could put this out at 200 dollars and break even but, given how high WiiU and 3DS prices still are to this day, I doubt they will. They like to make a profit on hardware from day one. 300 would be my guess.


That doesn't seem right. Not saying you're wrong, just that I would be very surprised. Can you provide any supporting evidence for this? It's been my main fear regarding the eventual Switch price and I'd love to be wrong about it.

Amazon sell an 8 inch 1280x800 Kindle fire for 80 bucks. Even if they are selling at a loss, wholesale cost of the screen can't be more than 30-40 USD. Suggested spec of the Switch is even cheaper than this.
 
I started questioning whether or not I got paid this week seeing this pop up, haha.

Gonna listen to this on my drive to work!

That's so funny! I sort of did the same thing. The 8-4 schedule lines up perfectly with my payday. Every other Friday is GOOD STUFF.

I'm so glad they did a podcast for this week.
 

Oregano

Member
I suspect Nintendo could put this out at 200 dollars and break even but, given how high WiiU and 3DS prices still are to this day, I doubt they will. They like to make a profit on hardware from day one. 300 would be my guess.




Amazon sell an 8 inch 1280x800 Kindle fire for 80 bucks. Even if they are selling at a loss, wholesale cost of the screen can't be more than 30-40 USD. Suggested spec of the Switch is even cheaper than this.

Yeah I was basing it on the fact that there's a ton of cheap multi touch tablets out there with 720p(or better) screens.

To see how expensive the 3DS screen was(as well as dual screens) you just need to look at how dirt cheap the 2DS is.
 

jj984jj

He's a pretty swell guy in my books anyway.
It's time to let carts thing go man, none of the kids today know or care about it unless they're into old consoles.

Although it would be funny if someone went out and did a poll about what people call physical 3DS games.
 

PillarEN

Member
So you go to the beach and think it's pornographic?

No I think you misread. I've never seen pornographic ads but I've seen the ones like "medieval troop game" which is sold by using scantily clad models to get attention. Never ran into anything that was actually pornographic.
 
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