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mcfrank · Jun 3, 2015

Watch this video from Chumpp which shows how 343 has turned off bullet magnetism in the latest patch. This change ruins the entire feel of aiming in Halo CE. I know some will say "this looks better, bullet magnetism is bad" but you are wrong for a few reasons:

1.) try running around in any Halo game and try to 1v1 people on your team - notice how you cannot hit each other. That is what halo CE feels like trying to shoot your enemies now. It is not fun.

2.) we were promised Halo exactly was we remembered it. Once again, this is 343 not respecting halo fans by making sure the games are right BEFORE they ship it. I could tell that this was wrong the very first game I played after the patch. If no one from 343 noticed it in their "testing" it really worries me about what kind of halo fans they supposedly are.

343 how many times are you going to keep breaking this game? Just get it right already. Why should we trust you to get halo 5 right if you can't even avoid screwing up a game which was already done right?

Welfare · Jun 3, 2015

Yeah, now I don't want to vote for it anymore.

Oh well, next patch will have to fix it.

mcfrank · Jun 3, 2015

Welfare said:
Yeah, now I don't want to vote for it anymore.

Oh well, next patch will have to fix it.

Sad that this has pretty much become the motto of halo fans.

wanderjahr · Jun 3, 2015

Reminder to preorder Halo 5.

jem0208 · Jun 3, 2015

mcfrank said:
1.) try running around in any Halo game and try to 1v1 people on your team - notice how you cannot hit each other. That is what halo CE feels like trying to shoot your enemies now. It is not fun.

This is slightly disingenuous. Aim assist is still there on the enemy team, it's only bullet magnetism that is reduced.

mcfrank · Jun 3, 2015

jem0208 said:
This is slightly disingenuous. Aim assist is still there on the enemy team, it's only bullet magnetism that is reduced.

A fair point, but it feels much closer to trying to shoot your team mates than trying to shoot your enemies did pre-patch.

FyreWulff · Jun 3, 2015

They know of the regression and they'll fix it in the next patch

McDougles · Jun 3, 2015

wanderjahr said:
Reminder to preorder Halo 5.

$250 CE (that we still don't know what looks like on the inside after its December 2014 reveal) still available!

JumPeRJumPzZ · Jun 3, 2015

No one from 343 is working on the MCC Patches. Its all outsourced stuff.

H5 will work.

Sleight of Jam · Jun 3, 2015

Are we entitled to a refund this far post the games release and it still being an unstable mess?

| Praxis | · Jun 3, 2015

McDougles said:
$250 CE (that we still don't know what looks like on the inside after its December 2014 reveal) still available!

It's a mirror with "Chump" written above it.

knerl · Jun 3, 2015

Personally I've always despised auto-aim in every form in every game. If I have the option off it goes. Don't really see how more accurate aiming/shooting is a negative thing. Practice with this and you'll get better than ever before.

jem0208 · Jun 3, 2015

mcfrank said:
A fair point, but it feels much closer to trying to shoot your team mates than trying to shoot your enemies did pre-patch.

Well to be fair the bullet magnetism was far too high before the patch, it's just too low now. Hopefully they'll put it back to somewhere in between.

lobdale · Jun 3, 2015

I heard Splatoon was pretty good!

Somnia · Jun 3, 2015

Incoming shit posting from people who only read the title. Or don't even discuss the subject.

It does need adjusted back some though for Halo 1's online. It was WAY too high before. Though I typically stick to 2 and 3 for the online stuff.

AllIsOneIsNone · Jun 3, 2015

Eh, I don't like Halo CE multiplayer in MCC collection anyway. Pistol starts and 4v4 (or is it 5v5?) doesn't work very well. Spawns are also terrible.

IXI FalcoN · Jun 3, 2015

Frankie confirmed it was unintentional and will be fixed.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=166211291&postcount=4849

Why the fuck this happened in the first place, who knows. Just another day for MCC. Feels like for every one thing that gets fixed, two more things break

mcfrank · Jun 3, 2015

AllIsOneIsNone said:
Eh, I don't like Halo CE multiplayer in MCC collection anyway. Pistol starts and 4v4 (or is it 5v5?) doesn't work very well. Spawns are also terrible.

It's 2v2

Percy · Jun 3, 2015

mcfrank said:
Sad that this has pretty much become the motto of halo fans.

Either that...

JumPeRJumPzZ said:
No one from 343 is working on the MCC Patches. Its all outsourced stuff.

H5 will work.

...or this.

AllIsOneIsNone · Jun 3, 2015

mcfrank said:
It's 2v2

Oh, I've been playing it when it's occasionally been chosen in the team slayer playlist.

Sleight of Jam · Jun 3, 2015

IXI FalcoN said:
Frankie confirmed it was unintentional and will be fixed.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=166211291&postcount=4849

Ridiculous at this point.

labaronx · Jun 3, 2015

| Praxis | said:
It's a mirror with "Chump" written above it.

Damn i already have one of those.... decisions decisions

mcfrank · Jun 3, 2015

JumPeRJumPzZ said:
No one from 343 is working on the MCC Patches. Its all outsourced stuff.

H5 will work.

Keep making excuses for them. It is their name on the box so it is their responsibility.

Exile20 · Jun 3, 2015

| Praxis | said:
It's a mirror with "Chump" written above it.

sgtmofo · Jun 3, 2015

JumPeRJumPzZ said:
No one from 343 is working on the MCC Patches. Its all outsourced stuff.

H5 will work.

Certain Affinity and Saber Interactive are both past collaborators on other Halo related projects (H1 anniversary, H2 map pack, etc.) There is nothing guaranteed for H5 and waiting to see how H5 fares only hurts their bottom line, nothing else.

343 seemed more than eager up to release to be taking credit for the MCC. Not so much after all these patches.

H4 was a fairly solid release as far as multiplayer stability goes. So at least they have that.

Eduardboon · Jun 3, 2015

I can actually shoot people with the pistol now. Took me forever to learn that the pistol is the only weapon you should ever use in CE though.

Also; after the latest patch I can find games! woohoo! (now they just have to fix the black crush in halo 2 classic.)

Sephzilla · Jun 3, 2015

Pictured: The MCC Patch Team

By now it's obvious that 343 either has their C-Team making patches for this game, or they straight up outsourced patching. It's ridiculous how many patches have ended up breaking things rather than fixing them. Everything regarding MCC has been completely unacceptable and 343 has lost all benefit of the doubt for me.

As someone who's not excited for Halo 5 at all after the beta, it's extra frustrating that I can't go back and play accurate representations of the classic games on my XB1.

malfcn · Jun 3, 2015

Does it effect campaign?
Will it require a CU or TU to fix or will it be a hot fix through a server tweak?

Strange thing to happen, but they are on it.
They can't catch a break. Any minor thing and a part of the community is out for blood.

Finaj · Jun 3, 2015

Well, even running without any problems, I still don't like Halo CE's multiplayer.

SmartWaffles · Jun 3, 2015

From the OT

Stinkles said:
Yes, it's a weird reversion that is being fixed.

mcfrank · Jun 3, 2015

SmartWaffles said:
From the OT

But we want to know when it's being fixed. Breaking things and then promising to fix them later is not acceptable game development.

Here's a gif of what we're talking about

FyreWulff · Jun 3, 2015

mcfrank said:
But we want to know when it's being fixed. Breaking things and then promising to fix them later is not acceptable game development.

Here's a gif of what we're talking about

aim at body mass and then pull up for the headshot scrub

this is basic gun discipline 101

scoobidoo112 · Jun 3, 2015

What an all-around disaster. Microsoft and 343 should be ashamed of the quality they put out, the promises they keep making and the jokes they have become at this point. How the hell do you just fuck up your biggest franchise like that?

I stand by my previous statement, for which I was recently made fun of. What an endless string of fuck ups.

Shin-Ra · Jun 3, 2015

Did they patch the graphics?

AA+AF in a 2001 game remaster would be good.

InsaneTiger · Jun 3, 2015

Coming this October 2015,

Halo 5: Patch 1.0

Herbshire · Jun 3, 2015

I noticed this happening as well. There are still so many issues with the game - personally I don't think I will purchase H5.

If I had it over again I'd have passed on the XB1 + MCC bundle and go with the PS4. Unfortunately I have purchased too many digital games now to switch.

entremet · Jun 3, 2015

So when will this thing be fully fixed for good lol.

This must be costing 343 millions when you consider the man-hours.

shiftplusone · Jun 3, 2015

mcfrank said:
But we want to know when it's being fixed. Breaking things and then promising to fix them later is not acceptable game development.

Here's a gif of what we're talking about

Jesus Christ

That ain't halo CE, that's fucked up

JaggedSac · Jun 3, 2015

FyreWulff said:
aim at body mass and then pull up for the headshot scrub

this is basic gun discipline 101

lol

SocksAndShoes · Jun 3, 2015

mcfrank said:
But we want to know when it's being fixed. Breaking things and then promising to fix them later is not acceptable game development.

Here's a gif of what we're talking about

What in the FUCK....

GRIMREEFZ · Jun 3, 2015

#RIPHALO

Xamtheking · Jun 3, 2015

mcfrank said:
But we want to know when it's being fixed. Breaking things and then promising to fix them later is not acceptable game development.

Here's a gif of what we're talking about

Why is that CS:GO gif with the bomb hitbox in this thread

ProvenDeadly · Jun 3, 2015

Hey it's all good guys everyone makes mistakes! Before you head out make sure to head over to your local game store and plop down 200$ for the Halo 5 LE!!!!!!!

Viliger · Jun 3, 2015

Let me get this straight - people complaining that there is no aim assist anymore? Topkek.

| Praxis | · Jun 3, 2015

labaronx said:
Damn i already have one of those.... decisions decisions

It's good to have a backup. Just in case.

InsaneTiger · Jun 3, 2015

ProvenDeadly said:
Hey it's all good guys everyone makes mistakes! Before you head out make sure to head over to your local game store and plop down 200$ for the Halo 5 LE!!!!!!!

You mean $200 on a collectors edition that has mentioned no details whatsoever?

Lets do it!

Kyari · Jun 3, 2015

mcfrank said:
But we want to know when it's being fixed. Breaking things and then promising to fix them later is not acceptable game development.

Here's a gif of what we're talking about

That blue should have died like 3-4 times over in this gif, god damn 343.

Lanrutcon · Jun 3, 2015

What I got from this thread is that there exists a thing in console shooters called 'bullet magnetism'.

That's an actual thing that exists, apparently.

spootime · Jun 3, 2015

mcfrank said:
But we want to know when it's being fixed. Breaking things and then promising to fix them later is not acceptable game development.

Here's a gif of what we're talking about

LMAO its like I'm playing CS:GO

SerTapTap · Jun 3, 2015

mcfrank said:
But we want to know when it's being fixed. Breaking things and then promising to fix them later is not acceptable game development.

Here's a gif of what we're talking about

Damn what the fuck I was about to yell at the guy to die

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