Source: http://www.polygon.com/2015/6/23/8823747/recore-trailer-story-behind-scenes-interview-inafunePolygon said:
Do we know if this is a downloadable game btw? That's a relatively tight full production schedule.
It's out Spring 2016.
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ReCore has been in development for 14 months, just going into production
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Do we know if this is a downloadable game btw? That's a relatively tight full production schedule.
It's out Spring 2016.
rokkerkory
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That's great to hear but looking more like it'll be out a year from now at the earliest?
MS was able to keep this quiet for 14 months, that's pretty good. lol
MS was able to keep this quiet for 14 months, that's pretty good. lol
They had a pre-production team of a pretty limited number of people (usually say 10-20 or so) and now they'll have everyone on it they need to make the content.
Like Dragon Age: Inquisition had a team of 30 for a long time and then ballooned up to 400+ for production.
Nightengale
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14 months of pre-production and 12 months of full-production.
That's... super tight for a small team.
That's... super tight for a small team.
Asset creation and prototyping versus hard programming, I would think.
SEGAvangelist
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That will be just over 2 years if the game comes out in May. That's a decent dev cycle if multiplayer isn't a thing. I also assume the game will be pretty repayable given the developers working on it.
It might be a bigger team than we think. Comcept, Armature, and MS Studios all have people working on it. Inafune called it a 3-way collaboration in an interview.
dugdug
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Placeholder prices at $59.99, which, implies a retail release.
Phil labeled it as a "new exclusive franchise" so I'd think it would be more than a budget title.
Inferno313
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From what I understand with game development, you do a lot of the concepting of both world and mechanics with a small team early on, and then when you have an idea of where you're going is when you get the whole studio working to make content for the game. That's when it enters full production.
Just like how a film has a "pre-production" phase of planning and making creative decisions before filming begins.
Banjo-Kazooie
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I'm guessing it will be a smaller game(?) or a budget game at $40. I can't see how it will be out Spring 2016 otherwise(?) just seems too short to me
Nightengale
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Big AAA titles generally have a production cycle (not pre-production, full production) cycle of 18+ months.
12 months isn't unheard of, but it's getting rarer these days.
The Albatross
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Omg Polygon's writing is just so bad.
It's like the editors at Polygon say "Challenge: Say as little as possible about a topic in as many words as possible. GO"
It's like the editors at Polygon say "Challenge: Say as little as possible about a topic in as many words as possible. GO"
Impeccable
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Uh, and it comes out in Spring? :/
Yes. A lot of studios roll two projects due to this (shifting staff between them) and/or have the extra staff work on DLC for the previous game.
It prevents cyclical layoffs or having to hire so many temps.
Nightengale
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Spring kinda ends near June, so 12 months is a stretch estimate even.
SEGAvangelist
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The devs are calling it a AAA title, though I guess that doesn't mean much with the way that term is throw around now.
Game Informer has a good interview with Inafune and Pacini about Recore and other things (Mega Man Legends 3, Iga's Kickstarter)
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/featu...-man-legends-3-and-iga-39-s-bloodstained.aspx
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/featu...-man-legends-3-and-iga-39-s-bloodstained.aspx
Less if you consider QA usually takes a couple months.
Congrats to Recore on inventing the CG reveal trailer.
SEGAvangelist
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I think in the Kinda Funny interview Inafune mentioned wanting to show a playable prototype but that it was held for marketing reasons. Not sure if that was the correct wording or if something got lost in translation, though.
Nightengale
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Cool, wasn't aware of that detail. Thought Armature is the bulk of the development. My bad.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Actually dig into your fund buttholes and give this one another quarter in the can, Microsoft. Summer is a good time to launch a new IP, while Spring 2016 is already looking fairly crazy.
SEGAvangelist
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I think they are doing the bulk but they mentioned MS's dev work as well in the Game Informer article just posted. Comcept's work is mostly creative it seems.
No way, Quantum Break won't get delayed again.
I would expect this to get pushed back before that happens, especially with this schedule.
This isn't even the first time Pacini has had to crunch really hard, given how quickly Metroid Prime 2 followed on the heels of the first game and, shockingly, had pretty much nothing recycled between the two games.
Nightengale
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If QB gets another delay, Remedy should never be allowed to talk release windows until their game is in beta.
Well if things get complicated, they can always Phantom Dust it.
Armature isn't Retro, though, this is a new IP, and that was more than a decade ago.
It still took them 2 years.
SEGAvangelist
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I can't imagine they'll do that and mess up their relationship with Inafune. That would just be stupid. Also, Phantom Dust didn't even have a release window at its announcement.
sixteen-bit
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Yeah...i hope it actually comes out next year. They better announce a release date at Gamescom.
Nightengale
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And production value expectations, aka "omg why does this character model take 3x longer to make than last gen!?"
If you want to educate yourself about game development more, especially when it comes to the really, really important pre-production versus production, I can heartily recommend watching an oldie but goodie: DICE 2002 - The Cerny Method.
Basically pre-production and production are two, very, very different parts of game development. Pre-production is about finding the technology, the production pipelines, the game and and more importantly finding the fun and defining the core vision. It results in a playable version of the game, in a good pre-production it usually results in a vertical slice that "feels" like a part of a proper game.
Production on the other hand is the process of building the full game and everything necessary to succesfully launch the game. You should have a core vision to go towards with a necessary pipelines and technology to reach it and being able to iterate upon that vision to make a really solid product.
14 months of pre-production sounds really good from a production perspective and I think it should help result in a great product for us.
If I remember correctly, Sunset Overdrive also entered full production after E3 2013. People were "worried" about it being an 2015 title. It shipped Oct. 2014. For a open world game with multiplayer I think that was a tight schedule too.
Quantum Break in other hand failed miserably.
Quantum Break in other hand failed miserably.
SEGAvangelist
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I was about to point out Sunset as well.
lol
30 people x 12 months. Looking at studio's history they don't seem to have proper experience with this gen games, mostly ports.
Short development cycle, understaffed and low experience. It is unlikely that this game is going to be any good compared to other 60$ games. The game must be between 20-40$.
Keep in mind that this studio is also working on the Bloodstained port (as well as UE4 technology for unsupported platforms), so the studio isn't dedicating 100% resources to Recore.
Short development cycle, understaffed and low experience. It is unlikely that this game is going to be any good compared to other 60$ games. The game must be between 20-40$.
Keep in mind that this studio is also working on the Bloodstained port (as well as UE4 technology for unsupported platforms), so the studio isn't dedicating 100% resources to Recore.
Quantum Break was delayed for Uncharted. MS needs a game for that time.
14 months plus another year before it releases not worried plenty of time to develop the game.. No actual gameplay seen before end of 2015 that's a problem, but not worried just yet.
rokkerkory
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Hoping for the best here but if it slips then that's okay as long as it makes the game better. Fall 2016 at the latest please.