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Nerix · Jul 15, 2015

"Grand Ages: Medieval will be launching on PS4 September 29th"
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/07/15/grand-ages-medieval-coming-to-ps4-on-september-29th/

Haven´t heard about the game before. What do you think/expect?

RTS with a gamepad... I don´t know. But will definitely keep an eye on it. On PS3 I once played the demo of RUSE, but wasn´t really convinced. Perhaps they will introduce a similar concept (voice control)?

edit - some early PC gameplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2H4WaYHhB8

eFKac · Jul 15, 2015

Any game that expands and gives some choices for this genre on consoles is cool in my book, even if I'm personally not interested.

Danneee · Jul 15, 2015

I could see myself playing this via remote play, if the in game text is large enough.

Sou Da · Jul 15, 2015

My friend loves RTS but refuses to get a PC so I guess he might be interested in this.

He was pretty big on Endwar.

Man · Jul 15, 2015

You have my interest. Love the setting & genre.

SkyTurnsRed · Jul 15, 2015

Nerix said:
RTS with a gamepad... I don´t know. But if you look at examples like Civ Revolution you can see, that it´s possible to have a good time with a RTS on consoles - even if it´s a total different experience and much slower than on a PC.

Civ Rev wasn't an RTS though. RTS is real time. Civ Rev was turn based, which is fine on console because it doesn't require speed like RTS games often demand.

prudislav · Jul 15, 2015

Strange choice I can understand TBS but RTS? , hopefully it will not cripple PC version and M+K UI
BTW:Since when is Civ Revolution RTS?

Nerix · Jul 15, 2015

SkyTurnsRed said:
Civ Rev wasn't an RTS though. RTS is real time. Civ Rev was turn based, which is fine on console because it doesn't require speed like RTS games often demand.

You´re right, my bad

Corpekata · Jul 15, 2015

Series is traditionally somewhat combat heavy so surprised this is making the leap. Usually the ones that do tend to be a bit more relaxed (and usually turn based).

Shengar · Jul 15, 2015

I remember despite having ultra generic name I've slight interest in this. Who's the dev again?

Heartfyre · Jul 15, 2015

The game's not out on PC yet either, so none can speak to the quality of it. I have played Grand Ages: Rome, though, and although I didn't spend a lot of time with it, I found it enjoyable. Might give it another try on the back of this news.

I wonder if the touchpad will be a gamechanger for RTS on console. I always expected it would be, but besides Tropico 5 (which isn't a great comparison to begin with), nothing resembling a strategy game has really been attempted.

funkypie · Jul 15, 2015

will it chug hard when more units are on the screen? RTS on console are notorious for that, especially with weak cpus.

backbreaker65 · Jul 15, 2015

I'm still waiting on an announcement "Full Spectrum Warrior: Ten Hammers" HD in VR. I would love an RTS game in VR.

Corpekata · Jul 15, 2015

Heartfyre said:
I wonder if the touchpad will be a gamechanger for RTS on console. I always expected it would be, but besides Tropico 5 (which isn't a great comparison to begin with), nothing resembling a strategy game has really been attempted.

It won't. Touchpad is just not good for accurate fast movements. There's a reason that even a slow game like Tropico just uses the traditional gamepad controls.

Sinatar · Jul 15, 2015

The 'Grand Ages' series are city builders not RTS games.

Shuggananas · Jul 15, 2015

RTS are already hard enough on PC, so with a gamepad ? Nah.

Hibiki Kurosawa · Jul 15, 2015

I've always rooted for RTS on console. I enjoyed a few of them and think they're good fun. I hope this one does well.

Nerix · Jul 15, 2015

Corpekata said:
It won't. Touchpad is just not good for accurate fast movements. There's a reason that even a slow game like Tropico just uses the traditional gamepad controls.

That´s right. E.g. when trying to control the map in AC IV... It´s a nice gimmick but it´s more accurate and faster when using the sticks.

Some early gameplay of the PC version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2H4WaYHhB8

Anyone who played RUSE on consoles? That´s the last console RTS that comes to my mind. But it was something special, as they relied heavily on voice control.

Sinatar said:
The 'Grand Ages' series are city builders not RTS games.

At least the developer itself states, that it´s an RTS
http://www.grandages.com/en/gam/game-info/

serversurfer · Jul 15, 2015

I found a "how to play" trailer in English. Game looks pretty interesting; seems to be a fair bit of depth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD2AoiQX8mo

Xaero Gravity · Jul 15, 2015

I'm probably in the minority, but I loved Halo Wars and Red Alert 3 on consoles, so I'll be keeping an eye on this one.

Poodlestrike · Jul 15, 2015

This looks to have some base building, which is an interesting choice. Most console RTS have forgone that sort of thing.

Kresnik258 · Jul 15, 2015

First Tropico and now this. Loving Kalypso's output on PS4.

Put me in with the camp of people that had fun with Red Alert 3 on consoles despite control issues.

Likely buying this.

serversurfer · Jul 15, 2015

Xaero Gravity said:
I'm probably in the minority, but I moved Halo Wars and Red Alert 3 on consoles, so I'll be keeping an eye on this one.

Could be; I didn't sell a single copy of either.

Xaero Gravity · Jul 15, 2015

serversurfer said:
Could be; I didn't sell a single copy of either.

>_>

serversurfer · Jul 15, 2015

lol <3

The Mad Draklor · Jul 15, 2015

I was not aware that this game is coming to the PS4. I'm now interested in trying this game out.

NandyRewman · Jul 15, 2015

Nerix said:
At least the developer itself states, that it´s an RTS
http://www.grandages.com/en/gam/game-info/

The Grand Ages series have always had light RTS elements, but they've mainly been city builders so far. From watching the early gameplay, it doesn't look like much has the changed.

The terrible RTS combat appears pretty much unchanged from previous entries, which is a shame. The new strategic gameplay looks rather fun though, very Civ-like.

KiefbladeMaster · Jul 15, 2015

I'll give it a shot after seeing some impressions. Haven't played a good RTS for a while.

Patrick S. · Jul 15, 2015

Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3 worked fine on the PS3 after a bit of getting used to it. A revival of the RTS genre is needed, if it has to be on consoles, I'm ok with it too.

JSR_Cube · Jul 17, 2015

Kresnik258 said:
First Tropico and now this. Loving Kalypso's output on PS4.

Put me in with the camp of people that had fun with Red Alert 3 on consoles despite control issues.

Likely buying this.

Ya, with the lack of strategy games from bigger publishers on the consoles, it is good to see Kalypso bringing us something. This seems to be mouse heavy though. Will still support though with a purchase.

VicViper · Sep 17, 2015

There's a developer livestream and Q&A on Twitch right now:

http://www.twitch.tv/kalypsomedia

PS4 versions have been delayed to October. Steam release is next week:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/310470/

potatohead · Sep 17, 2015

prudislav said:
Strange choice I can understand TBS but RTS? , hopefully it will not cripple PC version and M+K UI
BTW:Since when is Civ Revolution RTS?

Maybe they have KB/M support for this game.

I don't see why they wouldn't have a KB/M support on PS4 for a RTS these days. There are USB plugs easy to use.

They should definitely do that, along with the controller input.

potatohead · Sep 17, 2015

Q: is there KB/M support for PS4?
drgast: Sorry, no KB/M support since this is not natively supported by the PS4 firmware yet.
Q: In fact we did consider this option, but it would have had to program our own drivers for it basically.
Londonstani: thank you for the answer
Q: But if you're familiar with Tropico on console, the controls for GAM are quite similar and work very well.
Unerde: Want more and newest details about Grand Ages: Medieval? Feel free to join our Community:
Q: thanks!

Got the answer

They replied hella fast!

Keeping an eye on this for PC then.

drgast: PS4 in Europe: 9th of October
drgast: PS4 in Noth America: October 13th

SummitAve · Sep 17, 2015

Patrick S. said:
Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3 worked fine on the PS3 after a bit of getting used to it. A revival of the RTS genre is needed, if it has to be on consoles, I'm ok with it too.

Lord of the rings rts on 360 played great as well.

Kinthalis · Sep 17, 2015

potatohead said:
Maybe they have KB/M support for this game.

I don't see why they wouldn't have a KB/M support on PS4 for a RTS these days. There are USB plugs easy to use.

They should definitely do that, along with the controller input.

Because then out of the 1000 people that woudl have bought it on consoles, 999 wouldn't.

You can require it, that's for sure. Support it, for that one guy that will do this?

Tagyhag · Sep 17, 2015

Shuggananas said:
RTS are already hard enough on PC, so with a gamepad ? Nah.

There's a difference between RTS'es made for PC and RTS'es made with multiplat in mind. This looks like the latter so it should be fine.

For example, LOTR RTS was fine on consoles, but AOK on PS2? Terribad.

IvorB · Sep 17, 2015

More RTS games on PS4 is music to my ears. As long as they make good use of the trackpad it should be fine controlwise.

DieH@rd · Sep 17, 2015

I've finished CnC1 on PS1, had a blast. But I don't think I will ever play a fast RTS on a console again.

coastel · Sep 17, 2015

Keep forgetting about this game. Will have to make a note when its out and just watched the gameplay video, it looks good.

Tizoc · Sep 24, 2015

Sinatar said:
The 'Grand Ages' series are city builders not RTS games.

Bit of a silly question but how is it compared to say Age of Empires/Mythology?
Is it an easy game to get into or the like?

Turin Turambar · Sep 24, 2015

Sinatar said:
The 'Grand Ages' series are city builders not RTS games.

Don't confuse RTS (real time strategy) with RTS B&B (build & battle, in other words the subgenre created by Dune 2, C&C1 and Warcraft).

DigSCCP · Sep 24, 2015

Its nice to see that PS4 success is bringing even RTS games to the plataform.
Oh I wish CIV V come one day...

Tailzo · Sep 24, 2015

DigSCCP said:
Its nice to see that PS4 success is bringing even RTS games to the plataform.
Oh I wish CIV V come one day...

I'd love Civ 5 for a handheld. I'm playing it on a MS surface pro 2, nice but I'd love an even more comfy handheld solution. Ps4 and then remote play to Vita?

CloudWolf · Sep 24, 2015

Strategy games and consoles don't really mix. Halo Wars is the only example I can think of that even remotely worked.

Tagyhag said:
There's a difference between RTS'es made for PC and RTS'es made with multiplat in mind. This looks like the latter so it should be fine.

For example, LOTR RTS was fine on consoles, but AOK on PS2? Terribad.

There are Lord of the Rings real time strategy games on consoles? Enlighten me.

Kresnik258 · Sep 24, 2015

CloudWolf said:
There are Lord of the Rings real time strategy games on consoles? Enlighten me.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings:_The_Battle_for_Middle-earth_II

VicViper · Sep 24, 2015

Another developer livestream is on now: http://www.twitch.tv/kalypsomedia

Showing a multiplayer match (4 players).

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