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miku · Nov 21, 2015

I just saw someone retweeted this

Tyrone Rodriguez:

Stop lying to yourself, the Wii U is not much more powerful than a PS Vita

Apparently, 70% of his body is made of Kojima also:

Are both of these true?

JDSN · Nov 21, 2015

Its Nicalis.

Shiggy · Nov 21, 2015

It's true. That's why there's no Borderlands 2 port for Wii U, it simply couldn't run it. Same for the Uncharted game for Vita.

BY2K · Nov 21, 2015

Trying to save faces because they can't port Afterbirth to the WIi U, huh?

KooopaKid · Nov 21, 2015

Define "much more".

Broken Joystick · Nov 21, 2015

Was already being discussed in this thread, but I'm sure we can have 500 posts of "lol Nicalis" as well.

NotLiquid · Nov 21, 2015

The last indie I would ask for opinions on port optimization is Nicalis tbh

peanutbutterlatte · Nov 21, 2015

You don't release games in Europe on either.

Where's our Rebirth DLC.

Hero of Legend · Nov 21, 2015

Obligatory I feel: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=817525

Sora the Cat · Nov 21, 2015

I don't think this guy/tweet deserves a thread.

Shiggy · Nov 21, 2015

peanutbutterlatte said:
You don't release games in Europe on either.

Where's our Rebirth DLC.

European consoles are usually weaker.

DownGrader · Nov 21, 2015

miku said:

"70% of my body is made of Hideo Kojima."

But...

He says in particular that Metal Gear Solid developer Hideo Kojima should stop making games and start making bad movies (ironically, Kojima just might). "He's terrible at making games. Metal Gear is good in spite of him. I haven't enjoyed a game of his since maybe the original Metal Gear Solid, maybe." He feels the recent ones are tedious, riddled with bad writing, bad story-telling, and bad control.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/116513-NightSky-Dev-Kojima-is-Terrible-At-Making-Games

Riki · Nov 21, 2015

Hero of Legend said:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=817525

This sums up why you should never buy from Nicalis pretty nicely.

Dee Dee · Nov 21, 2015

Depends on how much "not much" actually is.

Either way, sure, whatever, the Wii U is not a powerhouse console, and the Vita is really powerful. No lies detected.

Danchi · Nov 21, 2015

Shiggy said:
European consoles are usually weaker.

Not as many Hz.

Blobbers · Nov 21, 2015

This guy always comes off as abrasive, even in the duckroll thread.

However, he is obviously right in this case.
Vita = PS2.5
WiiU= PS3.1

oti · Nov 21, 2015

How many Gamecubes are one Vita?

Hero of Legend · Nov 21, 2015

Riki said:
This sums up why you should never buy from Nicalis pretty nicely.

Yep.

Corpekata · Nov 21, 2015

Maybe he meant in terms of audience size.

ninjablade · Nov 21, 2015

Pretty bad comparison, wiiu is on par with ps3/360 overall and the ps vita is a good step down.

Ivan Amiibo · Nov 21, 2015

DownGrader said:
"70% of my body is made of Hideo Kojima."

But...

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/116513-NightSky-Dev-Kojima-is-Terrible-At-Making-Games

lol wtf!

Nicalis founder, Tyrone Rodriguez, talks about Hideo Kojima and the "indie" label. It turns out he doesn't particularly care for either of them.

maybe he hates 70% of himself

TheAutomator · Nov 21, 2015

I think it's true. Vita is like a PS2.5 and WiiU is not much better.

Godzilla's Left Toe · Nov 21, 2015

TheAutomator said:
I think it's true. Vita is like a PS2.5 and WiiU is not much better.

lol

Foffy · Nov 21, 2015

Should the title of the thread include a Nicalis warning?

These guys couldn't even port Cave Story to the Wii without issues...

ffdgh · Nov 21, 2015

So...how many gamecubes is that?

Godzilla's Left Toe · Nov 21, 2015

Foffy said:
Should the title include a Nicalis warning?

More like a Tyrone Rodriguez warning

Leonsito · Nov 21, 2015

I guess they published their Unity 3D project through the same wizard to both Vita and WiiU and saw that it ran equally bad on both, jumping to this retarded conclusion.

LeleSocho · Nov 21, 2015

Still waiting on him to comment on his tweet here since he has a GAF account.

MrBigBoy · Nov 21, 2015

Let the Vita run Mario Kart 8 on 720p with 60fps and tell me how it runs.

OminoMichelin · Nov 21, 2015

Leonsito said:
I guess they published their Unity 3D project through the same wizard to both Vita and WiiU and saw that it ran equally bad on both, jumping to this retarded conclusion.

Yeah i suggested that on the last thread.
Which by the way is virtually identical to the other one. Should be closed.

Vandole · Nov 21, 2015

fantastic_planet said:
lol wtf!

maybe he hates 70% of himself

Maybe he's on vacation 70% of the time?

……forgetit · Nov 21, 2015

That's just silly. You can get comparable visuals by mucking around with the Vita's framerate and resolution, but you'd never get Super Mario 3D World or a smiliar game running on Vita at 60fps.

Durante · Nov 21, 2015

Well, it depends on whether you're talking GPU or CPU.

Karspankey · Nov 21, 2015

I don't even have a Wii U or care about it all that much, but Xenoblade X. C'mon dude.

SenkiDala · Nov 21, 2015

For the same reason that the New 3DS can run Binding of Isaac but the usual 3DS couldn't because not powerful enough?

Yeah, those graphics are so great, I wonder how they managed to make it run on N3DS...

Prime crotch · Nov 21, 2015

Durante said:
Well, it depends on whether you're talking GPU or CPU.

that's why people should be more mindful about context when tweeting, where there's none; because now, coupled with Niscalis rep, I ain't even giving him the benefit of the doubt

LordOcidax · Nov 21, 2015

MrBigBoy said:
Let the Vita run Mario Kart 8 on 720p with 60fps and tell me how it runs.

lolol

Possumowner · Nov 21, 2015

Dammit,that's it I'm throwing my Wii U in the bin,I mean,now I know this those once wonderful games,MK8,Splatoon,Wind Waker,Wonderful 101,Mario World 3d,Mario Maker,Bayonetta 1+2,Super Mario Bros,Smash Bros,Kirby,Toad,Donkey Kong,Pikmin 3 are all garbage.Where's my pitchfork.

TheAutomator · Nov 21, 2015

MrBigBoy said:
Let the Vita run Mario Kart 8 on 720p with 60fps and tell me how it runs.

Can probably run it at 480p just fine. Have you seen sonic racing transformed on the vita?

Kataploom · Nov 21, 2015

Isn't the Vita not more powerful than New N3DS but just with more advance technology? I think some posters stated something like that in the NX speculation threads

……forgetit · Nov 21, 2015

ffdgh said:
So...how many gamecubes is that?

1.67 for Vita and 5.78324 for Wii U.

Davey said:
Isn't the Vita not more powerful than New N3DS but just with more advance technology? I think some posters stated something like that in the NX speculation threads

Main difference is the GPU I believe, but if a Dec decided to make a game from scratch for the new 3ds it could more than likely look comparable to one of the bigger Vita games.

entremet · Nov 21, 2015

TheAutomator said:
Can probably run it at 480p just fine. Have you seen sonic racing transformed on the vita?

I have and it's sub 30PFS most times.

Vita is nice for portable hardware, but it's not near the Wii U in power. Not that the Wii U is a powerhouse anyway.

Daedardus · Nov 21, 2015

By simple physics approximation, it's highly unlikely that a SoC that consumes ~2 W is performing the same as a SoC consuming ~30 W. That would mean a power efficiency factor of 10 or more compared to the Wii U. However, for the full resolution the devices are capable off, the apparant power may be around the same (within a range of factor 2 or so). That still doesn't mean it's impossible to port over a relatively simple game as this one, since the resolution can be made lower if needed. Plus the fact that other, more (apparant) intensive games seem to be running on both handhelds as well.

massoluk · Nov 21, 2015

Come on now, Xenoblade X is coming out like in weeks.

LordOcidax · Nov 21, 2015

Shinen vs Nicalis? Lol... Just for fun..

qko · Nov 21, 2015

peanutbutterlatte said:
You don't release games in Europe on either.

Where's our Rebirth DLC.

Using Nicalis logic, Europe is probably not much more powerful than a PS2.

Portugeezer · Nov 21, 2015

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Yasumi · Nov 21, 2015

MrBigBoy said:
Let the Vita run Mario Kart 8 on 720p with 60fps and tell me how it runs.

Well, MK8 does have the 59fps duplicate frame issue, so not even the WiiU can play it at 60fps.

Deleted member 284 · Nov 21, 2015

LordOcidax said:
Shinen vs Nicalis? Lol... Just for fun..

I don't hate or have any issues with Nicalis, but you don't compare a Tesla to a Plymouth Reliant.

Windforce · Nov 21, 2015

He's right.

PS Vita is weaker than PS3 but runs many ports of its games just fine.

Wii U is about same power as PS3.

So, Wii U not that much above Vita...

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