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luca_29_bg · Dec 30, 2015

http://streaming.media.ccc.de/32c3/relive/7560/ at 1:30 mark i believe

it's done.

Ivan Amiibo · Dec 30, 2015

You know Sony, we really are jailbroken

edit: fuck, first post and feeling immediate joke regret

Dredd97 · Dec 30, 2015

Sony will just patch the exploit and the cycle will renew again...

Hasney · Dec 30, 2015

Dredd97 said:
Sony will just patch the exploit and the cycle will renew again...

They're actually not showing the exploit. They're showing you what you can do when you have access.

They did the same thing with the Wii U shortly after launch. With this being more popular though, other people might make the exploit quicker.

StereoVsn · Dec 30, 2015

The only reason I would like home brew is if the PS2 emulator could be released. Well, PS1 as well.

TC McQueen · Dec 30, 2015

StereoVsn said:
The only reason I would like home brew is if the PS2 emulator could be released. Well, PS1 as well.

Unless someone manages to make PSCX2 way more efficient, that's not going to happen anytime soon.

PS1 and PSP with decent upscaling & AA is totally possible though.

Hasney · Dec 30, 2015

TC McQueen said:
Unless someone manages to make PSCX2 way more efficient, that's not going to happen anytime soon.

PS1 and PSP with decent upscaling & AA is totally possible though.

I think they mean using the built-in PS2 emulator, like they did on PS3 with CFW.

luca_29_bg · Dec 30, 2015

"ps4 security is crap enough that you don't need us for that"

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! it's x86, i suppose this don't help!

Hasney · Dec 30, 2015

luca_29_bg said:
"ps4 security is crap enough that you don't need us for that"

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! it's x86, i suppose this don't help!

I really hope they touch on why the security is bad. I think on PS3 it wasn't generating a random number when it should or something ridiculous?

The Wii conference they did about the password on the drives still kills me.

wapplew · Dec 30, 2015

Wow, conference for PS4 every month!

Asd202 · Dec 30, 2015

luca_29_bg said:
"ps4 security is crap enough that you don't need us for that"

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! it's x86, i suppose this don't help!

Xbone is probably not much different in that regard. I mean x86.

Darkangel · Dec 30, 2015

Custom firmware on PS4 would basically turn it into the modded Xbox 2.0.

I say bring it on.

On a related note, its kind of disappointing how the 360 never got a softmod even after a decade.

Ivan Amiibo · Dec 30, 2015

wapplew said:
Wow, conference for PS4 every month!

no montages set to hipster techno at this one though

luca_29_bg · Dec 30, 2015

linux on ps4

LordOfChaos · Dec 30, 2015

Hasney said:
The Wii conference they did about the password on the drives still kills me.

On the Wii U one they also said the security chip was largely similar to the easily exploited Wii one.

These talks are pretty interesting.

Hasney · Dec 30, 2015

I remembered right about the PS3!

If anyones interested, this is still a really good wtach on exactly how they got through to the PS3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4loZGYqaZ7I

Vuze · Dec 30, 2015

Hasney said:
I really hope they touch on why the security is bad. I think on PS3 it wasn't generating a random number when it should or something ridiculous?

The Wii conference they did about the password on the drives still kills me.

Yeah, I always think of this slide lol

Pretty cool they got Linux working, wish they had an actual, longer talk or sth but w/e

E: Haha, beaten

Jockel · Dec 30, 2015

This is getting really interesting with all the stuff coming up for 3DS, WiiU and PS4.
A few slides of presentation is hardly a conference, though. Bummed that they didn't share more information.

TheAdmiester · Dec 30, 2015

Asd202 said:
Xbone is probably not much different in that regard. I mean x86.

Microsoft is the software company of the two while Sony is the hardware one, I wouldn't be surprised if the Xbox was more difficult to crack.

Patapwn · Dec 30, 2015

Ivan Amiibo said:
You know Sony, we really are jailbroken

edit: fuck, first post and feeling immediate joke regret

A (neogaf pseudo) tlou reference is always welcome. Live on without regret my son.

Fewr · Dec 30, 2015

Ivan Amiibo said:
You know Sony, we really are jailbroken

edit: fuck, first post and feeling immediate joke regret

It was a good one. I liked it.

Hasney · Dec 30, 2015

Ogawa-san said:
And what would you do with it that you can't do with a RPI2 nowadays?

Although I'm more interested in the technical security things for this specific conference, a Linux partition with Steam streaming would be really as would a USB loader. 2TB isn't enough for me now.

luca_29_bg · Dec 30, 2015

ps1 emulated under linux

Pachimari · Dec 30, 2015

Hasney said:
I think they mean using the built-in PS2 emulator, like they did on PS3 with CFW.

You could play PS2-disc games on a PS3 with CFW?

Hasney · Dec 30, 2015

Madridista said:
You could play PS2-disc games on a PS3 with CFW?

Yup!

TheSeks · Dec 30, 2015

Hasney said:
The Wii conference they did about the password on the drives still kills me.

Wait, what?

AcademicSaucer · Dec 30, 2015

Hasney said:
I remembered right about the PS3!

If anyones interested, this is still a really good wtach on exactly how they got through to the PS3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4loZGYqaZ7I

oh lol, I should begin using that to get random numbers from now on.

luca_29_bg · Dec 30, 2015

Hasney said:
They're not showing an exploit.

Since they can patch the kernel and change the bootstrap, they probably could. But that would require someone else getting the same access as they have.

there are other people that have this exploit and are working on it...it's only a matter of time!

marink · Dec 30, 2015

TheSeks said:
Wait, what?

The Wii Password was the GC password in all caps if I remember correctly.

Hasney · Dec 30, 2015

TheSeks said:
Wait, what?

I can't find that one archived, but the chips for GameCube injected a password to authorise the disc as legit and it was 'matshita dvd-rom'. For Wii, that was still there, but they changed the password. It was now 'MATSHITA DVD-ROM:

Social · Dec 30, 2015

ok, never update the ps4 again, check

Noobcraft · Dec 30, 2015

BramVD said:
ok, never update the ps4 again, check

That's where I'm at lol. I'm just worried that UC4 won't be playable with current firmware.

Dragon · Dec 30, 2015

Hasney said:
I can't find that one archived, but the chips for GameCube injected a password to authorise the disc as legit and it was 'matshita dvd-rom'. For Wii, that was still there, but they changed the password. It was now 'MATSHITA DVD-ROM:

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Pachimari · Dec 30, 2015

Hasney said:
Yup!

Oh wow, never knew this! Now I'll rebuy a PS3 Slim.

Caronte · Dec 30, 2015

wapplew said:
Wow, conference for PS4 every month!

lol

Guymelef · Dec 30, 2015

BramVD said:
ok, never update the ps4 again, check

They are not using the latest firmware to run Linux, we don't know if it's even possible with current firmwares.

Uhyve · Dec 30, 2015

luca_29_bg said:
linux on ps4

I'm really interested to see if they can install Windows. Even SteamOS would be really cool. It'd be the ultimate console.

Noobcraft · Dec 30, 2015

Uhyve said:
I'm really interested to see if they can install Windows. Even SteamOS would be really cool. It'd be the ultimate console.

I want to install Windows 10, steam, and play my PC copy of Portal 2 on my PS4.

TheSeks · Dec 30, 2015

Madridista said:
Oh wow, never knew this! Now I'll rebuy a PS3 Slim.

Is that even possible to downgrade past a certain firmware anymore?

Canis lupus · Dec 30, 2015

I just want my Gamecube and Dreamcast emus on PS4.

GhostTrick · Dec 30, 2015

PS4 to become a Steam machine hehehe

Canis lupus said:
I just want my Gamecube and Dreamcast emus on PS4.

GC seems out of reach because of the CPU. Dreamcast on the other hand is likely.

AlucardGV · Dec 30, 2015

luca_29_bg said:
ps1 emulated under linux

hackers doing what sony doesn't

Canis lupus · Dec 30, 2015

GhostTrick said:
PS4 to become a Steam machine hehehe

GC seems out of reach because of the CPU. Dreamcast on the other hand is likely.

Doesn't Dolphin run on everything now, even on Intel Atoms? Sure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPMYH26ingc

luca_29_bg · Dec 30, 2015

AlucardGV said:
hackers doing what sony doesn't

indeed!

chronic_archaic · Dec 30, 2015

Darkangel said:
Custom firmware on PS4 would basically turn it into the modded Xbox 2.0.

I say bring it on.

On a related note, its kind of disappointing how the 360 never got a softmod even after a decade.

I have read into this and despite a lot of trying in the search of a software exploit apparently the 360 was just really super secure - the only softmod that ever came up was the Shader Hack that only ran on a dashboard from 2006, required a flashed DVD drive and only ran Linux.

PezDispenser · Dec 30, 2015

Darkangel said:
Custom firmware on PS4 would basically turn it into the modded Xbox 2.0.

Modded PS3 was the modded Xbox 2.billion

funkystudent · Dec 30, 2015

Sony is going to patch out the web browser now and Jeff Rigby is gonna be super sad.

FrsDvl · Dec 30, 2015

This is kind of neat actually, what are the chances of turning a PS4 into a decent low budget steam machine eventually?

Pachimari · Dec 30, 2015

TheSeks said:
Is that even possible to downgrade past a certain firmware anymore?

I have no idea. Which is the latest firmware your PS3 needs to be on?

GhostTrick · Dec 30, 2015

Canis lupus said:
Doesn't Dolphin run on everything now, even on Intel Atoms? Sure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPMYH26ingc

It does run indeed. Although run is a big word as you can see on that video.
Dolphin is dual threaded. So it would run on two PS4 cores.

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