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Titanfall 2 Xbox One Frame-Rate Test + Campaign First Look
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JigglesBunny
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The resolution disparity was fairly obvious, but it's still impressive they managed to get IQ like that with a base rez of 720p. I'm surprised at the performance analysis though. In my experience, performance on the XB1 version was pretty unstable in the Bounty Hunter mode, specifically when the Grunt Pod drops and the smoke effects kick up. Meanwhile, that never seemed to stress the PS4 version.
Very interesting performance profile here, nonetheless.
Very interesting performance profile here, nonetheless.
Equanimity
Member
The image quality in motion is great considering it's locked at 720p. Performance is not bad either.
The comparison with Quantum Break is a bit strange, in my opinion. QB is a blurry and ghosting mess in comparison.
The comparison with Quantum Break is a bit strange, in my opinion. QB is a blurry and ghosting mess in comparison.
Bornstellar
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Image quality is honestly shockingly good for a 720p frame buffer.
mocolostrocolos
Member
What? It's 720p? Amazing IQ.
LuvOfThaGame
Banned
Very impressive 720p. Had no idea.
sir_dany12
Member
Does anyone have a comparison to PS4?
It looks really good from what I've played. Never would've guessed it's 720p. Whatever it's doing it's doing well.
thelastword
Banned
Go back and watch the PS4 footage and come say that with a straight face.
I also disagree with DF's assessment on framerate here. On foot, both versions run at 60fps, the dips comes with the heavy use of alpha (more grass, explosions, heavy smoke plumes). This game really has impressive effects and the footage shown of the PS4 had much more explosions going on. There was this smoke cloud that stayed on the screen for quite a while in the PS4 footage. I'd like to see some XB1 footage with as much on screen and as many explosions. Seems like the DF analyst was trying to avoid titan battles as much as possible on the XB1 version.
PackAPunchedMick
Member
PS4 version looks noticeably sharper regardless if the technique used. 720p just doesn't hide the entire screen shimmering.
GrantDaNasty
Member
I'd like to know as well. We're at this weird point where a different SKU will offer a possible performance difference, and I imagine DF will need to either test on multiple SKUs per console or state very clearly which version they're playing on.
Here we go again
I thought it was pretty obvious. It's less sharp than the original game.
cripterion
Member
Here we are with 4K TV sets being mainstream and games coming out and still running at 720p towards the end of 2016...
Dee Dah Dave
Member
That's pretty solid overall. These modern resolution techniques are great and will really come into play with the Scorpio / Neo.
PsihoPerihelion
Member
Its the PS4 version using a similar reconstruction technique? It looks way better than every other 900p game I've ever played.
KainXVIII
Member
Maybe DF need to start upload uncompressed video, because i don't see it on youtube..
Would want to go PC personally, but I'm afraid of the community dying and also hackers. Plus I play with a controller and have a feeling I would get destroyed, so I'm happy to see that the game still looks and performs great on Xbox.
Maybe even the One S can improve the dropped frames whilst all that action is going on.
Maybe even the One S can improve the dropped frames whilst all that action is going on.
thelastword
Banned
The footage shown of the XB1 is no proper indicator of it's overall performance. This is a game (MP) where you engage enemies, it's fast paced with lots of unscripted explosions. Look at the first minute of the video linked in the OP, the player is just running around not facing any enemies, hardly firing bullets, perhaps just exploring and contrast that with the PS4 footage where things are chaotic throughout. It's obviously busier in one video, I'm just saying you can't come to a conclusion on framerate differences due to that.
well the xbone version did have about only 3 seconds of Titan cockpit footage with frame counter while the ps4 video was taken from inside the titan majority of the time.
Maxey
Member
I hope your tinfoil hat is sitting comfortably on your head. Jeez.
To be fair, the Youtube compression hides the sharpness difference between platforms, so that's not a good way to compare the IQ, but even so, I find it difficult to find significant differences in picture sharpness.
In fact, I watched the Giant Bomb Unfinished of TFall 2 and I thought the two consoles were running at the same res.
Honestly, I still think 4K screens came out 2 or 3 years too early. At least when it comes to gaming, the hardware capable of achieving 4K is too expensive and not even that capable yet for new games.
But they still showed when the fps drops hapened, especially when riding a titan or when there were a lot of smoke/explosions on screen
From there to go to "DF analysts avoided Titan battle as much as possible" it's a long shot no?
Head.spawn
Junior Member
Cboat redeemed, lol.
Looking decent for such a low resolution; though it's pretty sad that's all they were able to achieve though, it's not like the game looks all that great.
Looking decent for such a low resolution; though it's pretty sad that's all they were able to achieve though, it's not like the game looks all that great.
Maxey
Member
It's worth it for 60fps with such heavy action going on.
Guys, it's a first look. I played as best as I could. You can't just get any footage you want in an MP game.
Just my first impressions. That's all. Most of the actual in Titan footage is also perfectly smooth - it was only when actually riding the Titan that things chugged.
Also, I played on a plasma display at my normal distance. Image quality looks great. If you're playing on a PC monitor in close proximity? Yeah, it'll look a lot worse.
Just my first impressions. That's all. Most of the actual in Titan footage is also perfectly smooth - it was only when actually riding the Titan that things chugged.
Also, I played on a plasma display at my normal distance. Image quality looks great. If you're playing on a PC monitor in close proximity? Yeah, it'll look a lot worse.
Can confirm that it was NOT on X1 S. Just a stock box.Cheers dark
Can you confirm if this was on an X1 S by any chance?
Honestly, if it were possible to do nearest neighbor scaling, both 720p and 1080p would scale perfectly to 4k with very sharp pixels. I would love to see that.
Interesting
I look forward to seeing how the reconstruction turns out in the final game. Love hearing about these techniques. I find them fascinating when they're properly done.
The PS4 version looks a lot sharper than 900p to me as well, which is extra surprising considering they're using TAA. Some form of this there as well?
I look forward to seeing how the reconstruction turns out in the final game. Love hearing about these techniques. I find them fascinating when they're properly done.
The PS4 version looks a lot sharper than 900p to me as well, which is extra surprising considering they're using TAA. Some form of this there as well?
We're basically at the point where AAA FPS are all 60. Destiny and Far Cry are the only ones I can think of that are still 30.
cripterion
Member
Oh I definitely agree with you considering the state of broadband in most countries and no proper 4K support. It does take a heavy rig to power 4K games too which is why both Sony and MS make me laught with their lofty 4K gaming claims.
Still though, I probably would have laughed if you told me a couple of years ago that some games would still boast a 720P resolution at the end of 2016...
Yeah I'll still take the better framerate over resolution.
Maxey
Member
Yeah, it is a bit upsetting but the truth is that no matter how powerful these consoles were to be, you'd still have cases of games lower in resolution than the norm.
The PS3 and 360 were no slouches when they came out but devs were nonetheless releasing sub-720 games all the time until the end of the generation.
LelouchZero
Member
Definitely looking forward to trying this out.
thelastword
Banned
But there were hardly titans onscreen as opposed to PS4 footage, I'm pretty sure the PS4 would hold 60fps just as we're seeing here if that was the case. I also saw parts where the PS4 held 60fps even with titans and gunfire, so saying that the XB1 is smoother means nothing going by the contrasting videos. If you watch the videos back to back, you will clearly see what I'm saying.
Here we are with 4K TV sets being mainstream and games coming out and still running at 720p towards the end of 2016...
Only thing I can see is for them to reduce some of the effects, I do think the framerate is not bad for the IQ you get. If you have to compare, Battlefield Hardline looks awful compared to this in multi, atrocious textures, vomit inducing foliage, huge jaggies and muddy filtering. I see the footage here and it's better in all aspects, with good-looking textures, nice foliage, and amazing effects, AF and AA seems pretty solid on it as well.I think they hit a nice balance, but since the game has a bit more time in the oven, I'm sure they can optimize a bit more.
I'm really interested to see how the SP looks and performs though, I think SP looks bananas. It's also a nice-enough looking MP, yeah, rez should definitely be higher, but looking at all the 720p/900 games released this gen, it's certainly not the worse looking or performing.
As for 4K, I agree, 720p upscaled to 4K, not sure how that will look on the XB1-S. I really feel 720p belongs as a last generation resolution, but some people fight against better standards simply because they own a console who struggles at higher resolutions. It would be interesting to know if this is running on an S as opposed to Vanilla though
Maxey
Member
While you bring good points, it's all moot until the final version comes out. Who knows how much more optimization can they do until then.
Battlefront had some dips in the betas which were completely eliminated in the final game.
Also, they ran the game on a stock XB1.
Its a farcry compared to last gen.
Xbox Master The
Banned
900/720?
When will we get consistent 1080/60?
When will we get consistent 1080/60?
Pjsprojects
Member
As a little test I just ran both the console versions on the same TV,its clear enough the PS4 version runs better all round but the X1 has nothing game breaking apart from the slow down when jumping on a Titan in the middle of a battle,the frame rate went to shit where as the same sort of action on the PS4 seems fine.
After playing TF1 this morning on pc I'll be going with that option...
After playing TF1 this morning on pc I'll be going with that option...
Tarnpanzer
Member
With Neo and Scorpio.
PackAPunchedMick
Member
Dont count on it.